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Lotus-JPS
05-03-10, 10:01
I'm a big fan of bike games and this game is the worse I've played in ten years, it is unfortunate in every respect.
It is extremely arcade, sounds are very bad and the game in general is awful, this game is an insult to people who like bikes and video games.

Luckily in May of the SBK X that if he is a great game.

Very bad job with this game, this game you have insulted everyone who likes motorcycles. :(:(:(

Paulski
05-03-10, 10:09
Is SBK X coming in May? I thought I read somewhere it will be out in September or even November..?

Lotus-JPS
05-03-10, 10:13
Is SBK X coming in May? I thought I read somewhere it will be out in September or even November..?
SBK X Superbike World Championship saldrá a la venta durante el próximo mes de mayo para Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 y PC.
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X SBK Superbike World Championship will go on sale during the month of May for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC.
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http://www.ultimagame.com/SBK-X-Superbike-World-Championship-Prepara-tu-moto-para-competicion-del-ano_i10748.htm

Paulski
05-03-10, 10:19
Thanks! :)

Well, that's earlier than I thought then. And that's good, since I'm not very sure if I'm willing to pay 60 Euro's for MotoGP 09/10 after playing the demo :(

djnardo
05-03-10, 10:31
I'm a big fan of bike games and this game is the worse I've played in ten years, it is unfortunate in every respect.
It is extremely arcade, sounds are very bad and the game in general is awful, this game is an insult to people who like bikes and video games.

Luckily in May of the SBK X that if he is a great game.

Very bad job with this game, this game you have insulted everyone who likes motorcycles. :(:(:(

I'm agree with his opinion.

Lastchance
06-03-10, 15:58
We've been supplying feedback for months and months, and for what? Did you guys even listen to a single word of it.

G4ME
06-03-10, 19:42
Man you guys are funny, but let me put it this way.
If y'all think, and take a better and closer look to the demo, than you guys gonna notice something totally different and I'm not talking about the physics ! as a matter of fact it's positive, but i ain't gonna tell y'all nothing.

acarter117
06-03-10, 20:02
what, the celebrations? hardly great/important or make up for the shocking physics...

slimyoshi
06-03-10, 20:26
to be honest i care not what is different anymore.the game isnt coming to my house so who gives a f...?

x360racer
08-03-10, 17:29
Nowadays, games have to be accessible...Nobody wants a punishing gameplay (the masses) and I can understand you guys frustration but the hardcore are the minority.

I don't ride in real life, but I still want to have fun beating Rossi on the most prestigious tracks out there. I'm sure you can understand that.

Would have been nice to put an hardcore sim mode in though, maybe next time :thumb:.

Paulski
08-03-10, 18:07
Nowadays, games have to be accessible...Nobody wants a punishing gameplay (the masses) and I can understand you guys frustration but the hardcore are the minority.

I don't ride in real life, but I still want to have fun beating Rossi on the most prestigious tracks out there. I'm sure you can understand that.

Would have been nice to put an hardcore sim mode in though, maybe next time :thumb:.

They should have made a system like in MotoGP 08 with arcade, advanced and simulation mode. If they'd focus on making good realistic physics first, then making a arcade handling mode would be easy as taking a dump ;)

GGazza
08-03-10, 19:38
they dont make pushbikes with stabilizers fitted to them first,. stabilizers are fitted to the pushbikes for the kids that cant get the hang of riding them without them after the pushbikes been mastered to perfection for the people that can ride them.

Paulski
08-03-10, 21:16
Haha, great metaphor :)

Tenebra
08-03-10, 21:50
Slimyoshi, your attitude towards other forum members isn't acceptable in this place. Please take a look at the forum code of conduct and refrain from making any further offensive remarks.

GGazza
08-03-10, 23:09
Nowadays, games have to be accessible...Nobody wants a punishing gameplay (the masses) and I can understand you guys frustration but the hardcore are the minority.

I don't ride in real life, but I still want to have fun beating Rossi on the most prestigious tracks out there. I'm sure you can understand that.

Would have been nice to put an hardcore sim mode in though, maybe next time :thumb:.

thats why the masses didnt play motorbike games at all, then the masses joined and played basic mode, then they moved on to arcade mode, then they moved on to advanced mode, then they moved on to simulation mode, and not in the reverse order, get what i mean?

the simulation mode is the top level of play in gp08 and other bike games even have extreme modes, you say in your view the minority because you have not experienced how to play well enough to achieve the fantastic experience of sim mode because you have to be good at playing the game to get to that level, dont forget sim mode was top of the games achievement, something you the masses should have been working towards achieving as part of the game, working from basic to arcade to advanced to simulation, instead of staying in your comfort zone of a watered down experience.

If you were to get good at the game by working up through the modes rather than sticking in simple modes then you would also enjoy it as much as others that have put in the effort and achievement of being good enough to play the simulation mode, so get real, the masses are what are ruining the game and holding back the development of making a better game.

now what do we have with 0910? just only one mode the arcade handling mode which they renamed high sim lol and that name for it was an afterthought as they thought sim meant simulating a riders career and not a level of bike handling.

I guess if you compare what your view is by translating it to the real motogp then rossi in the motogp 800cc class would be riding 125s because they would not be able to cope with the level of the sport at its highest difficulty, because 800cc class on basic/arcade/advanced is just like that, and just like 0910.

Sheenmue
08-03-10, 23:24
For me this game is like a Mario Kart in two wheels and without items. Can that be funny playing online with 20 people? Yes. Is that what I want? No.

Reading this forum and the american Capcom forum I finally have understood that this is what developers wanted and sincerely I don't get it. If you make a poll to ask people what was the best MotoGP game ever they'll probably tell you it was GP500, 11 years later there are still people playing that game. That's something you can't say about too many games.

So now you have the chance to make a game with a similar GP500 gameplay with some new features like career mode, online multiplayer for 20 people, customize your rider and bike, 3 categories... and you know people will love that game and what's more important, you'll gain a lot of fans that will support you in the future. And then you decide you want to make a "snack game", something people play and will forget in a few months.

Don't you realize how much people like games such as Forza or GT, sims wannabe? But no, you make an arcade because you think people is not ready for sims. In those games you can activate helps if you prefer but still, the best online races use to be those where people deactivate them. I guess developers haven't experienced the feeling of playing sims in multiplayer mode or that they haven't riden a motorbike in a track, and sorry, but if that's true you should go to a track with all the Monumental team in a weekend where somebody teaches you the basics and at the end of the weekend make a race, perhaps that's the only way you finally get it.

Most of motogp fans are very passionate about the sport and a big part of them have real bikes, so don't underestimate them.

StillNotHappy!
09-03-10, 07:09
As long time player of a variety of diffrent bikegame this game feels like a complete sellout of everything I use to love:mad:It feels like treason!But I guess thats what you get when you leave the job up to someone without the propper knowhow,and any real insight on the matters.That hasent really played any bikegames for too much before,and dident really like them that much anyhow.Thats when they sell you out and go and make the crappiest arcadegame of all time,because that just feels so much better from there point of view,and they dont know better:eek:To me this is nothing short of insulting,and imo all u turncoats that support it should be taken out the back and shot for treason!!!:dry:

x360racer
09-03-10, 12:56
so get real, the masses are what are ruining the game and holding back the development of making a better game.

GGazza, I understand your point, I totally do and the same happens/happened to the Forza Motorsport franchise, but don't tell me you can't put yourself in other people's shoes.

This is a game, it has to be accessible, what does a studio gain in frustrating thousands of people to please a few? You see what I mean. At the end of the day it's a business.

You guys, and other real life riders seem to be mad because you see that the game doesn't recreate the actual experience of Moto GP in which you would have an advantage coming from your knowledge of the series and actual riding. You're mad at the idea of potentially being beaten by a 10 years old who would crap his pants even on a 50cc and I totally understand that.

I also agree with the point made by Paulski saying it would have been better starting with an hardcore physics system and dumb it down for medium and beginner levels.

The bottom line (for me) is, the hardcore are the minority, always, as sad as it may sound.

And constructive criticism is a better way of having your voice heard for the next game. The devs are checking this place out.

GGazza
09-03-10, 15:19
GGazza, I understand your point, I totally do and the same happens/happened to the Forza Motorsport franchise, but don't tell me you can't put yourself in other people's shoes.

This is a game, it has to be accessible, what does a studio gain in frustrating thousands of people to please a few? You see what I mean. At the end of the day it's a business.

You guys, and other real life riders seem to be mad because you see that the game doesn't recreate the actual experience of Moto GP in which you would have an advantage coming from your knowledge of the series and actual riding. You're mad at the idea of potentially being beaten by a 10 years old who would crap his pants even on a 50cc and I totally understand that.

I also agree with the point made by Paulski saying it would have been better starting with an hardcore physics system and dumb it down for medium and beginner levels.

The bottom line (for me) is, the hardcore are the minority, always, as sad as it may sound.

And constructive criticism is a better way of having your voice heard for the next game. The devs are checking this place out.

what i was trying to get across and bottom line for me is, they should have kept all the modes as previous in gp08 "basic+arcade+advanced+simulation" therefore pleasing everyone as the guys are not so good can still play basic and arcade, and not leaving out those who are good enough at the game to enjoy play the harder modes instead of not buying the game.

Why should sbkx look a better game to many it shouldnt be the case, motgp should be the best console game as motogp is the pinnacle of motorcycle sport.

so the bottom line is the game should be enjoyable for all as it was previously (basic-arcade-advanced-simulation) and that is constructive criticism.
(btw your quote of me just being mad at being beaten by a 10year old is out of order because that is just not true, i enjoy a good race if i am beaten or not)

StillNotHappy!
09-03-10, 18:47
As long time player of a variety of diffrent bikegame this game feels like a complete sellout of everything I use to love:mad:It feels like treason!But I guess thats what you get when you leave the job up to someone without the propper knowhow,and any real insight on the matters.That hasent really played any bikegames for too much before,and dident really like them that much anyhow.Thats when they sell you out and go and make the crappiest arcadegame of all time,because that just feels so much better from there point of view,and they dont know better:eek:To me this is nothing short of insulting,and imo all u turncoats that support it should be taken out the back and shot for treason!!!:dry:Sorry about the early morning venom:)You guys should play whatever you feel like,and I dont really want to drag you all out the back and shoot you all:DI guess I just woke up this morning thinking about what have been taken from me,and what I lost,and how unfair it all seems to me,but then I had a cop of coffee,and slowly(very slowly)startet seeing the light:)I remembered about SBK X:chin:and I thought about how we cant have everything here in life,and that one out of two perhaps isent so bad.Anyway its all just part of the healingprosses,and now I think the time has come to move on,before I embarres myself any further:)You all take care now,and enjoy whatever game you feel like

trouty65
09-03-10, 18:48
what i was trying to get across and bottom line for me is, they should have kept all the modes as previous in gp08 "basic+arcade+advanced+simulation" therefore pleasing everyone as the guys are not so good can still play basic and arcade, and not leaving out those who are good enough at the game to enjoy play the harder modes instead of not buying the game.

Why should sbkx look a better game to many it shouldnt be the case, motgp should be the best console game as motogp is the pinnacle of motorcycle sport.

so the bottom line is the game should be enjoyable for all as it was previously (basic-arcade-advanced-simulation) and that is constructive criticism

Totally agree with you Gaz.

Motogp 09/10 should be "THE" pinnacle motorcycle game and should be up there / better than the SBK games, but this time around it is not.

Have to agree on the fact that if they get all the levels of game play right from arcade through to Sim and you can turn things "off" and "on" then people who cannot play the game at the highest level can use the assists if implemented correctly and bring the game to a level that they can handle. This works both ways good point.

I'll be buying both games as i need to know for myself what the full game holds but i am also looking forward to buying SBK-X and hopefully racing you and the lads on full sim ... even if i'll be riding around at the back :D

Paul

Spike 74
09-03-10, 18:55
Just a quick note:

You may have seen edited post's by me or anther Moderator.
I just want to make clear the ONLY things that has been edited out is the Bad/vulgar language or insults to other members.
The rest of the post is left untouched.

Capcom Europe's policy is to let you have you opinion but bad language and insults to other members will always be edited out as it is not tolerated.

So your opinions will remain intact as you posted them.

Thanks to the people who have kept the forum clean.

Ion Blaster4
09-03-10, 19:56
hahahaha what the hell you on about? so 95 percent of people who buy moto gp games are not hardcore fans hmmm?jesus christ be quiet you know nothing man.games are supposed to be recreations of the sports or why the hell do they makem? are you telling me someone who is a policeman for example and has no interest in motogp games suddenly thinks to himself i know i will go and buy motogp because im not hardcore and i want to play a game for everyone?hahahahha you make me laugh

Thats like saying more guys in the army play Call of Duty than just regular people. Its also like saying most people who play Call of Duty are hardcore fans of guns, which, most of them aren't.

x360racer
10-03-10, 00:37
(btw your quote of me just being mad at being beaten by a 10year old is out of order because that is just not true, i enjoy a good race if i am beaten or not)

Fair enough :)

Its good to know it is possible to have normal discussions and opinions about the game here even though there obviously is disappointment in the air.

Mad Comrade
10-03-10, 01:59
yeap , it is a disapointment to me , saying that i've spent 2 hours trying to get used to it , and had some fun , it is just not what i pesonaly looked for ! too - car alike ! no decent physics !
howhewer i am sure there will be lods of kids playing it anyway !:o