View Full Version : PS3s Suffering From Global Network Lockdown
All around the world, PlayStation 3 consoles simply aren't working like they're supposed to, with an error preventing people from not just going online, but from playing some PS3 games offline as well. From Europe to the Americas to, well, my house in Australia, users (mostly of older "Fat" consoles, those released before 2009's "PS3 Slim") are complaining that upon booting their consoles up, they're unable to sign into their accounts, check their trophies, use dynamic themes or access the PlayStation Network. That's fine, Sony say there are PSN connection problems, and that they are "looking into it"...................................
UPDATE - Sony has updated, saying "We're narrowing down the issue and continue to work to restore service to all. Updates as soon as we have them."
UPDATE 2 - A mass story-telling session on internet gaming forum NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388872) points towards the issue potentially being related to a calendar bug in older PlayStation 3 consoles, not the PlayStation Network as was first suspected. Bear in mind this is mob science, however, and is by no means official confirmation on the cause of the problem.
UPDATE 3 - Citing unnamed "developers and studios", British site Develop say that the issue (http://www.develop-online.net/news/33995/Now-developers-PS3s-are-hit-by-system-errors?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+developmag%2Fifbh+%28Develop% 29&utm_content=Google+Reader) is affecting titles currently in production for the PlayStation 3, with debug consoles - used by developers to actually make games - thrown "into a rebooting cycle, due to an endlessly-looping error message".
UPDATE 4 - PS3's still aren't working and no official update from Sony in 9 hours. Their last Twitter update says that they the issue does not appear to be impacting the PS3 Slims.
http://kotaku.com/5482328/ps3s-suffering-from-global-network-lockdown
Neither my PHATT or Slim or suffering (touch wood)
Apparantly it's something to do with how it handles leap-years (hence it happened between Feb 28th and today)
Apparantly it's something to do with how it handles leap-years (hence it happened between Feb 28th and today)
It's not a leap year this year though and if that was the case it would have done the same last year with that not being a leapyear??
I don't know what it is exactly, but Sony have obviously ****** up somehow, and it makes sense given the date...
*edit* Hmm. How do I get my gamertag to work like yours Spike?
PS3's still aren't working, and there has been no official update from Sony in over 9 hours. Their last Twitter update says that they believe the issue does not appear to be impacting PS3 Slim consoles.
Will feedback if I get more info.
I don't know what it is exactly, but Sony have obviously ****** up somehow, and it makes sense given the date...
*edit* Hmm. How do I get my gamertag to work like yours Spike?
At the moment only Mods and Admins have picture sigs I am afraid
PS3's still aren't working, and there has been no official update from Sony in over 9 hours. Their last Twitter update says that they believe the issue does not appear to be impacting PS3 Slim consoles.
Will feedback if I get more info.
Thanks.
The reputation of ps3 as the most flawless console on the market is slowly shattering, damn...
The reputation of ps3 as the most flawless console on the market is slowly shattering, damn...
I certainly wouldn't call it the most flawless having 2 die on me in just under 18 months.
I think the Wii is the most flawless of the current gen
Apart from the fact that there are hardly any good games for it!
Wii sports is the only thing I bother playing, and I don't play that very often.
Apart from the fact that there are hardly any good games for it!
Wii sports is the only thing I bother playing, and I don't play that very often.
Yeah, lets just say the reputation of ps3, as a game console that has at least 10 good games, is slowly shattering :D
I mean, half a year ago,their reputation was flawless. Suddently i hear broken ps3 here and PSN problems there, eh...
Carbonox_Ratchet
01-03-10, 15:31
Let's not turn this in to some petty "Sony fails" nonsense. The PS3 had horrible support and marketing up until last year, with fantastic exclusives to fortunately back it up. With Heavy Rain exceeding expectations, MAG doing well and God of War III out this month (along with Uncharted 2 still going strong and Final Fantasy XIII's success as a PS3 exclusive in Japan), Sony's reputation is doing nothing but growing with this year the start of something even more special. PS3 sales increasing tenfold, etc. I think we'll end it there.
This appears to be some one-off off-key problem that's never risen in the PS3's lifespan before as far as I know. It's a bit out of the blue and inconvenient for millions but Sony will get it sorted soon.
We just upgraded the official SCEA community too so having this on top of that isn't helpful. D:
Let's not turn this in to some petty "Sony fails" nonsense.
Well it does fail with PSN, not only because the download times are EPIC(in a negative way) and it also seems that many ps3 units cant survive 2years without a malfunction. Talking about a new websites and a ton of great exclusives isnt what i ment, in that way, sony is excellent but it fails in things i wrote below. Things like this shouldnt happen, there´s no excuse for that. Yeah yeah, its an accident but for a company that has like billions of dollars, its a fail.
Dont get me wrong, i own only a ps3 and i love it :)
Carbonox_Ratchet
01-03-10, 15:39
But is "many" a representation of all? Or even a majority? I have had my 40GB original PS3 for over two years and it's still a beaut. We're going in to misguided and hazy territory now where assumptions are the replacement for cold hard facts.
This topic really isn't here to start slagging off Sony or the PS3 over something that can happen to any company.
It's a nuisance and bad for Sony that this PSN crash has happened. Best thing to do would be keep patient. Good job my DS is serving its purpose on top of my job.
I hope something similar happens to Ubisoft and junks their ridiculous copyright protection.
TheEnglishResident
01-03-10, 15:45
Slightly glad to find out that this is a global problem and not just my PS3 mucking about.
It's got me, gonna be a short while before I can play those Uncharted 2 maps I bought over the weekend...
Damnit, now I'm afraid to turn on my ps3 to continue Heavy Rain..
It's not affecting slims FYI, so for those with slims, you're fine.
TheEnglishResident
01-03-10, 16:13
it also seems that many ps3 units cant survive 2years without a malfunction.
I've had the same PS3 since they were first released in the UK, and it's worked fine :blink:.
As you may be aware, some customers have been unable to connect to the PlayStation Network today. This problem affects the models other than the new slim PS3.
We believe we have identified that this problem is being caused by a bug in the clock functionality incorporated in the system.
Errors include:
* The date of the PS3 system may be re-set to Jan 1, 2000.
* When the user tries to sign-in to the PlayStation Network, the following message appears on the screen; "An error has occurred. You have been signed out of PlayStation Network (8001050F)".
* When the user tries to launch a game, the following error message appears on the screen and the trophy data may disappear; "Failed to install trophies. Please exit your game."
* When the user tries to set the time and date of the system via the Internet, the following message appears on the screen; "The current date and time could not be obtained. (8001050F)"
* Users are not able to playback certain rental video downloaded from the PlayStation Store before the expiration date.
We hope to resolve this problem within the next 24 hours. In the meantime, if you have a model other than the new slim PS3, we advise that you do not use your PS3 system, as doing so may result in errors in some functionality, such as recording obtained trophies, and not being able to restore certain data.
As mentioned above, Please be advised that the new slim PS3 is not affected with this error. We are doing our best to resolve the issue and do apologize for any inconvenience caused.
For the latest status on this situation please check either the PlayStation blog (blog.us.playstation.com) or PlayStation.com.
http://kotaku.com/5482811/ps3-error-8001050f-caused-by-clock-bug-fix-within-24-hours
Should be fixed within 24 hours
One more negative point to the fat PS3s. How can after PS1 and PS2 they do such a bad product? :chin:
One more negative point to the fat PS3s. How can after PS1 and PS2 they do such a bad product? :chin:
first of all, you are comparing two consoles who have finished their life-spans to one that has only gotten started. The ps2 had many difficulties as well and it wasn't an instant success either.
but back on topic,
THANK GOD I DIDN'T TURN MY PS3 ON TODAY.
My friend came over and wanted to play but we soon got distracted and we didn't. Hallelujah.
besides, i doubt this is a super intense melt-down, it will probably be gone tomorrow since the date will change. But if it doesn't sony will have a problem because they can't fix it with firmware :sadno:
hopefully this doesn't result in a massive recall... but i HIGHLY doubt it will.
Sky_Dragon
01-03-10, 19:59
Slims all round then yeah?
Slims all round then yeah?
i am on a phat and mines fine though the slim i have is also fine
Sky_Dragon
01-03-10, 20:09
Oh well it's not real issue to me. I am sure they will email all psn accounts with a update to transfer over to the playstation which will sort it.
Ryu Kazama
01-03-10, 22:23
It's pretty amusing how quickly people are ready to bash Sony for this. Anything to please raging fanboys, huh. Satistically speaking, the 360 is still the most failed console for this generation. Not the PS3 and not the Wii (that made me laugh, honestly). The very fact of ther matter is, at least ONE of any console is going to bust up. That's how technology works. Some fail, some do not.
You can't dismiss Sony for "failed hardware" when the PSN is a bit iffy. That's a different problem all together (and not really related to this topic).
What some also need to realise is how reliable most PS3's are when compared to the initial PS2 launch. Now that was bad. That's comparable to how many 360's fail.
Yes, that's all for Sony's defence, just to get in the face of any random fanboys lurking around. Like I said, any machine will fail over time. No use in thinking every console is then unreliable.
Anyway, haven't turned my PS3 on today. Think I'll just wait for a fix to come out.
CaptainCortez
01-03-10, 22:49
Ryu, I think once a console goes, it will always put doubt into your mind, but I think the same way as you do, it seems.
No console isn't without its faults. With the amount of consoles mass produced, you can't expect every one of them to work perfectly, forever.
That's for the fact PS1 and PS2 are supposedly more reliable....you can't really be too sure, unless you compare the statistics of each console within the same time period that they've been out for.
For example:
PS1 - Year 1 has a 0.2 failure rate.
PS2 - Year 1 has a 0.4 failure rate.
PS3 - Year 1 has a 0.3 failure rate.
These are all stats that I made up in my head, but as you can see, this would suggest that the PS2 has the highest failure rate.
The point to this is that unless you know the exact failure rate for each console over the same period of time, then you can't really say that the PS1 and PS2 had less problems.
Strictly speaking, the PS1 and PS2 should last longer, though. This is because as hardware evolves and advances, the consoles becomes a lot more demanding to run, and are therefore more likely to burn out, or break down.
My launch PS3 died after about two and a half years from when I bought it. In comparison to my PS2 (which lasted 6 years), this is bad, but for such a high powered super console, I wouldn't blame Sony for it.
Everything will break down eventually. People could have consoles that are exactly the same in every way, but one will live longer than the other. It's just the way it goes. I'd personally put it down to luck, good or bad.
UPDATE!
I just copied these off of my twitter feeds:
OPM_UK (http://twitter.com/OPM_UK)
RT @timothydclark (http://twitter.com/timothydclark): Booted up my fat 60GB and it worked fine. Signed in to PSN. Played FIFA. Reset clock using internet. Woop! #ps3 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ps3) #fixed (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23fixed) 3 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/OPM_UK/status/9848071576)via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)
Reply (http://twitter.com/?status=@OPM_UK&in_reply_to_status_id=9848071576&in_reply_to=OPM_UK)
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Well! Wasn't that strange? Glad you're all sorted. Me? I'm off for a short stint on White Knight Chronicles before bed :D 3 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/MusterBuster/status/9848069950)via web
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Okay, booted up my fat 60GB and it worked fine. Signed in to PSN. Played FIFA a bit. Reset clock using internet. And relax... #ps3 (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ps3) #fixed (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23fixed) 4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/timothydclark/status/9848048026)via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)
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Alot of people now saying their PS3's are working again - if you still have problems, let us know here:
Try your consoles now, guys. :)
Slims all round then yeah?
Oh no! I still have a backwards compatible one! I can't lose this one...the older games are so much better than the new games, so far.
I'm so glad I couldn't get to my ps3 today...
Sony say...
We are aware that the internal clock functionality in the PS3 units other than the slim model, recognized the year 2010 as a leap year. Having the internal clock date change from February 29 to March 1 (both GMT), we have verified that the symptoms are now resolved and that users are able to use their PS3 normally. If the time displayed on the XMB is still incorrect, users are able to adjust time settings manually or via the internet. If we have new information, we will update you through PlayStation.Blog (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/) or PlayStation.com (http://eu.playstation.com/).
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Silphonica
02-03-10, 08:32
first of all, you are comparing two consoles who have finished their life-spans to one that has only gotten started. The ps2 had many difficulties as well and it wasn't an instant success either.
The PS3 has had 3 years since it's initial launch in Japan and USA and about 2 and 3 quarter years in Europe and OZ. To sort it self out. The PS3 is well passed the "start-up" phase.
Considering the PS1 had a 5 year life span. And the PS2 technically had a 6/7 year life span. I'm surprised something like this happened 3 years after launch, pretty stupid tbh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8544675.stm
It's corrected it's self, expect sony to patch the machine before 2014 when it could happen again.
first of all, you are comparing two consoles who have finished their life-spans to one that has only gotten started. The ps2 had many difficulties as well and it wasn't an instant success either.
Regarding my experience:
- My (fat) PS1 is packed in my attic, still functional.
- My fat PS2 is in my living room serving as DVD player, and occasionally to play some PS2 games.
- My PS3 died after 2 years and one month serving me, it's now completely useless. And it wasn't a launch model, it was the 40Gb one.
- 80% of the members of my clan had problems with their PS3s, mostly YLOD but also the blu-ray drive problem. 8/10 :eek:
So, I do think that the reliability of the PS3 is very poor :thumb:
Regarding my experience:
- My (fat) PS1 is packed in my attic, still functional.
- My fat PS2 is in my living room serving as DVD player, and occasionally to play some PS2 games.
- My PS3 died after 2 years and one month serving me, it's now completely useless. And it wasn't a launch model, it was the 40Gb one.
- 80% of the members of my clan had problems with their PS3s, mostly YLOD but also the blu-ray drive problem. 8/10 :eek:
So, I do think that the reliability of the PS3 is very poor :thumb:
Ps1 I never had problems with till my nephew dropped it and the laser broke and I fixed it with a carpet tack and a bit of glue still works now.
Ps2 don't get me started on those I went through 7 in 18 months due to various problems.
Ps3 I am on my 3rd. Fist had blu-ray problem, the 2nd had YLOD but my 3rd is fine touch wood and was unaffected yesterday (which is a PHAT) also my slim is so far fine.
Granted it's not the scale of the 360's RROD which I have still yet to suffer myself.
Ps2 don't get me started on those I went through 7 in 18 months due to various problems.
*Ouch* That's bad luck :blink:
*Ouch* That's bad luck :blink:
2 of them dead from the box and 1 went bang when I plugged it in :poke: most of the others had lasers set to high and my disc's turned to mince meat lol and the first one just died on me.
Ps1 I never had problems with till my nephew dropped it and the laser broke and I fixed it with a carpet tack and a bit of glue still works now.
Ps2 don't get me started on those I went through 7 in 18 months due to various problems.
Ps3 I am on my 3rd. Fist had blu-ray problem, the 2nd had YLOD but my 3rd is fine touch wood and was unaffected yesterday (which is a PHAT) also my slim is so far fine.
Granted it's not the scale of the 360's RROD which I have still yet to suffer myself.
Ouch that is some pretty bad luck on the ps2/3's lol. At least the RROD is a pretty simple fix for anyone who understands how to use a screw driver lol. Had my 360 die from an rrod ( the day halo 3 came out no less). Fixed it and it worked fine for about 18 months. it acted up lately so i bought an elite. Have since cracked it open and sorted the stupid video chip failure thingy
Thats why I always buy extended guarantee as I would not know where to start with todays consoles.
With the Ps1 the Guide that ran along the rail to move the laser had broken and that was simple to fix also the console at the time was nearly 4 years old so I had nothing really to loose if I could not fix it.
But i look at today's consoles and cringe lol.
I am not really a tech person
hmm..
I've taken apart every console I've had apart from my 360 and a few portables. Stuff I've opened up:
PS2, PSOne, PSP, Amiga 1200/500, Spectrum, C64, every PC I've had (natch)...
Oh wait, thinking about it, I've never opened any Sega consoles or Nintendo after NES/SNES.
hmm..
I've taken apart every console I've had apart from my 360 and a few portables. Stuff I've opened up:
PS2, PSOne, PSP, Amiga 1200/500, Spectrum, C64, every PC I've had (natch)...
Oh wait, thinking about it, I've never opened any Sega consoles or Nintendo after NES/SNES.
Question that I think everyone is thinking:
How many of them worked after you close them? :D
hah, all of them!
Oh wait, the spectrum was broken anyway. I turned it on, plugged it in to the TV and everything and then ran a screwdriver across the circuitboard. pretty patterns on the TV and sparks on the motherboard.
Probably best not try that at home.
And I blew up a core grafx (or the power supply anyway) by using the shaver attachment to try and convert it.
Leonie Heartilly
03-03-10, 17:40
I have a Slim so wasn't affected by this but still didn't attempt to sign into the PSN just in case. I don't see how people can moan when it was a little bug that was fixed within a day or 2. Also someone complained the download speed is slow ect but you can't really complain when the PSN is free to use (and obviously it depends on your own net speed as well).
To join in the reliability chat I've had a PSone, PS2 and PS3 with no problems. Granted my PS3 is only 3 months old but I have extended cover on it just in case. I find Sony to be pretty reliable in general, yeah there's been some problems but as someone else has pointed out not to the extent of the 360's RROD and radial scratching issues. I personally wouldn't touch a 360 with a barge pole...
And just a note to say I've worked in GAME for 2 & half years so can honestly say we get a lot more 360's back with issues than the PS3. I've never dealt with a YLOD so it's still pretty rare in my opinion, just had the odd batch of PS3's that stopped reading discs.
I have an old phat PS3, I was one of the unfortunates to suffer this, but I didn't really care, was playing Mass Effect 2 at the time. :D
I had the phat PS3 (that I bought 2nd hand). I never got a chance to check if I was affected by it, but even though it was 2nd hand, I haven't had a single problem.
My 360 hasn't had the RROD, but it does freeze a hell of a lot, unlike the PS3. The 360 is miles less reliable, in my eyes, and the PS3 is no more unreliable than the PS2 and 1.