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Im stuck on the dual tigrex- can anyone tell me the best armour and LS to use? Dont recommend other weapons-I wouldnt switch to save the world
you wont beat dual tigrex with long sword, sorry
though you are welcome to try, use the obvious choice of true devil slicer and an armour with high grade earplugs
:( no dont use long sword:( :) use great sword or duelblades works best for me like my lao flamingpair:) :) :) use some tigrex armour that works for me too:) :)
as i believe this is your first time doing the quest, you can spam single tigrex again and again to get an earplug armor, or just get something with high defense and abuse on healing items.
the best LS you can actually make now is either True Devil Slicer or Gaelic Flame. (their damage output is pratically the same, if you can manage the gaelic, id advise that one since its good not only against tigrex, but most wyverns, but assuming you are refering to the first time you do a dual tigrex, both online and offline, i believe you never met an elder dragon, and as such, stick to the True devil Slicer)
To be honest, i dont believe earplugs are a must, as long as you are careful you wont place yourself head on agains a tigrex, abuse the drawing attack to get his tail, abuse the wall on 8, since when he chews on ice you get plenty of time to deal damage, take your spirit bar on him then.
AND you can also die and die again trying to figure the correct timing to dodge roll his roar.
Resuming:
If you really wanna make an armor, get something with good or at least decent dragon resist (hell yeah, the DRIFTER deal dragon damage)
As has been said before, at this point, the devil slicer / true devil slicer is the best you can probably manage.
Take advantage of the layout (section 8 biting the wall).
Dont be afraid to use potions, herbs, mega potions or whatever healing items you can get your hands on.
If you can manage and feel confident, a Shock Trap sometimes gives you a good free damage time (try to avoid using it on rage mode though).
CUT THE TAIL, there are many times a cut tail will simply mean he rolls and his imaginary attack misses (applies to 1 tigrex also).
NEVER, EVER, stand in a map when both of them are on it, fighting two tigrexes by itself at early stages is a pain by itself, fighting two in the same map is simply suicide. (and no you wont even be able to food poison one with your decaying body.)
Take no heed to those that say you cant do something (no offense, just a personal standing), hope and training are what will have you hone your skills, the harder the challenges, the best of a hunter you shall turn out to be!
The first times i did this quest i failed a lot since time would run out or something of the kind, however, with some tries you will start to get the right timings and learn to take advantage of stuff, as for an example, having both tigrexes painted, when one of them enters the rage mode, just let him cool of, like couples do, and take a bit of time playing with the other, switch through them if you believe you can do it efficiently. (note however, when theyr hp drops, they tend to become angry faster and faster, so there is a limit of how much you can do this until it wastes time, instead of saving it.
Flash bombs are also good companions on quests you cant handle well.
If you need help in the online version of it feel free to ask. ;)
Now go brave hunter, GET YOURSELF UNCONSCIOUSd A LOT! and become a fine hunter!
:) :) lol thats alot of writing:) :)
I would have to argue againt the use of shock traps just for when its calm, i mean sure it stays in the trap for longer but you can just attack normally when its calm, shock traps are great for leveling the playing field, espcially tigrex, otherwise (espcially with katana) you have little or no options to attack it when in rage
I would have to argue againt the use of shock traps just for when its calm, i mean sure it stays in the trap for longer but you can just attack normally when its calm, shock traps are great for leveling the playing field, espcially tigrex, otherwise (espcially with katana) you have little or no options to attack it when in rage
its precisely on rage mode that you can abuse the wall at 8 the most, and its RARE to have them both at the other two maps.
my advice was for him to try to use in when hes clam precisely because it lasts a bit longer, i did not however say he cant use in other ocasions, its simply harder for a beginner to do and has a (relatively) smaller effect.
I disagree to the having few opportunities on a ls, the only thing that is truly slow is the draw-type attack, and thats the thing you probably trained your timing in the most (for its abusive damage)
A raged tigrex will probably take 2 hits before letting go of the trap, and hell most probably roar just as soon as hes free, hence my disliking for trapping him in such state.
I forgot one thing, if one of them flees to the nest, quickly dispose of that one, since itll make things a lot easier for you later on. (though this one is probably quite obvious.
also, indeed a write a lot, but i like to help out and to explain things right in one post, avoiding needless chatrooms ^^.
Though i know its a bit discouraging to read, i believe i did not give any false hints (please correct me if im wrong, i myself, as everyone, make mistakes.), so, i apologise for the long writings, but my synthesis power is not the best when it comes to explaining things XD.
duh hence the earplugs! anyway the reason ls is bad for tigrex is because the combo has you moving ever forwards inluss you do the lagtastic backslice, and the worst place to be for fighting a tigrex is under him or within its wingspan
its like he was designed to counter the longsword
besides that wall is quite hard to use when you cant block as he may decide that he wants to turn last second and punish you, with a lance 2 tigrex is far easier, and with good timing the great sword is easier still, and dual blades are really good against him aswell
duh hence the earplugs! anyway the reason ls is bad for tigrex is because the combo has you moving ever forwards inluss you do the lagtastic backslice, and the worst place to be for fighting a tigrex is under him or within its wingspan
its like he was designed to counter the longsword
besides that wall is quite hard to use when you cant block as he may decide that he wants to turn last second and punish you, with a lance 2 tigrex is far easier, and with good timing the great sword is easier still, and dual blades are really good against him aswell
i never, ever used ear plugs on a tigrex till the date, in fact, the first earplug + armor i had is the akantor which im currently using , i learnt to dodge it. a dragon res armor is far more useful imo, and the earplug+ most probably will make him have DEMONIC protection, which is quite the awesome thing to have in a dual tigrex quest...
Actually, you can roll using an LS, so i dont get the point of saying its slow, well used its not that much slower than a DS, being under him may actually be the best place if you know how to decently dodge roll him, just needs timing, and a lot of pray so that he doesnt start spamming the whirl thing.
The wall is easy to use with any weapon, if you stand in front of him till he hits the wall with a weapon without defence hability then youre just doing it wrong.Also, if you are using the infinite combo...just dont, if you play with any infinite combo weapon for enough time youll realise most of the time its a terrible idea in most situations.
And yes, you need earplug + for tigrexs roar, not earplug.
I continue to find the remarks about X or Y weapon to be easier to be quite relative. And i do believe the OP said he wanted to do it with an LS, so the point is moot.
Also, about advancing inwards to a tigrex, why would you stand in front of a tigrex on purpose when you have a weapon that can hit pratically any point of it from the side? love for being ran over? X_X
standing on his side is much safer since he takes his time to turn allowing you to dodge roll once and be out of his dash and ball throw attacks, if the tail is off, youll most probably not be hit by his spin, which leaves only his roar to hit you, if you actually are close enough to get the roar damage, hell...its a lot smaller damage than getting dashed over or bitten, whirled, you name it.
PS: even with the earplug + if you are close enough for his roar to damage you youll be hit and thrown away, the only thing earplug stops is the annoying, hands in ears animation, and if you are at his side when that hits you, hell sidestep, make you trip on his leg and take you away from that animation, leaving you to quickly roll away, or if you are lucky, hell start the dash in your immunity time from that hit.
dude you are totally assuming im a novice, trust me i do know what im talking about, i never said ls was slow, i never said i attack from the front and i never said earplugs stops the throw back and i certainly never said i use infinate combo (in fact in another thread i say exactly what you say about it)
and of course its possible with the longsword but most likely he will never be able to do it, im not being arrogant or anything by saying this, its just facts and therefore it does have a point
dragon resist armour, or any high defence armour is moot anyway as with 2 tigrexs you will want to avoid being hit as much as possible, hence earplugs being far more useful as tigrex screams a lot, tho yes you can predict his screams quite easily if you only get punished once from his scream it could cost you the entire mission, where as being hit with his running attack wont (provided he doesnt wall hug and hit you twice, which doesnt happen very often)
dude you are totally assuming im a novice, trust me i do know what im talking about, i never said ls was slow, i never said i attack from the front and i never said earplugs stops the throw back and i certainly never said i use infinate combo (in fact in another thread i say exactly what you say about it)
and of course its possible with the longsword but most likely he will never be able to do it, im not being arrogant or anything by saying this, its just facts and therefore it does have a point
dragon resist armour, or any high defence armour is moot anyway as with 2 tigrexs you will want to avoid being hit as much as possible, hence earplugs being far more useful as tigrex screams a lot, tho yes you can predict his screams quite easily if you only get punished once from his scream it could cost you the entire mission, where as being hit with his running attack wont (provided he doesnt wall hug and hit you twice, which doesnt happen very often)
To make things clear, im not assuming that you specifically are a novice, im explaining things in detail since this is supposedly an help topic, hence people reading this should have things explained, otherwise there is no point to the topic.
About earplugs, as i said, it needs to be earplug + (high grade), which will on the armors he has available on that rank, certainly give him demonic protection.
*Divine Protection : 25% chance to reduce 30% damage received
Demonic Protection : 25% chance to increase 30% damage received*
Getting run over with a 30% damage plus of a tigrex does hurt.
As i said before if you position yourself correctly, against one of them using an LS, you can hit almos any part of their body from their sides, which will be the safest place to be.
If you meant that not having the earplug + when fighting 2 on the same map. one of the first advice i gave to a novice was to never take them both on the same map, since that will considerably reduce your maneuverability.
If it MUST be done, use a flash bomb.
and of course you want to avoid being hit, thats the point of the whole game, but we know things dont go that well when were beginners
About him never being able to do it with the long sword, I did it on my second dual tigrex LS try, why wouldnt any novice do it? (though i had played MH before, i had been on a one year and something hold, which is pretty much enough to get rusty)
as i have to go, ill leave the rest of this for later ;)
ª_ª my first post says high grade earplugs
and of course its possible with a katana, but new players always choose katana and its a difficult weapon to learn how to use properly, and i know he wont be able to beat them because he is so new to the game that he refuses to use a different weapon
il use another thread on this forum to help illustrate my point
a new player had a pretty good longsword (shark i think), and giaprey armour, yet he couldnt beat giadrome... we tried to help him out loads and it took him like a month to do it
i was a bit confused as to why he couldnt beat it, so i took the sword and shield that you start with and no armour, no whetstones, no potions and no hot drinks and i was easily able to beat the giadrome
players need to build up a high level of skill when playing this game, and as i said before i know this guy has a low level because an expiranced hunter would know the value of using different weapons, would have played more hours to make the different weapons and by the time they would have gotten to the dual tigrex quest their overall skill level would be far higher and they would be able to beat it with a katana
ª_ª my first post says high grade earplugs
and of course its possible with a katana, but new players always choose katana and its a difficult weapon to learn how to use properly, and i know he wont be able to beat them because he is so new to the game that he refuses to use a different weapon
il use another thread on this forum to help illustrate my point
a new player had a pretty good longsword (shark i think), and giaprey armour, yet he couldnt beat giadrome... we tried to help him out loads and it took him like a month to do it
i was a bit confused as to why he couldnt beat it, so i took the sword and shield that you start with and no armour, no whetstones, no potions and no hot drinks and i was easily able to beat the giadrome
players need to build up a high level of skill when playing this game, and as i said before i know this guy has a low level because an expiranced hunter would know the value of using different weapons, would have played more hours to make the different weapons and by the time they would have gotten to the dual tigrex quest their overall skill level would be far higher and they would be able to beat it with a katana
As a dual swords lover i refuse to use any weapon other than duals on my first hunt, and till the date, all the wyverns/dragons i solo, the first one is allways done with a dual sword, its not that i dont know the value of different weapons, neither do i lack them (wyverian hammer ;) ) its simply a stand, i like this weapon and i want to take the challenges with it. after that i take them on with different weapons sometimes for the sake of it, others for a new perspective.
Its obvious a novice needs training with a weapon, but not everyone wants to do things the easy way, i for one dont like it ;)
It is highly likely hell take quite a great deal of tries, but if he is resolute on beating the quest with a LS, hell get the hang of it, its a challenge, if he is not so resolute in his stand, sooner or later hell pick up another weapon.
I have a friend who follows the same principles as me (though he loves the weapon i hate, lance) and it took him a while to get through some quests, but he did it nontheless, being a novice.
With this i am in no way saying you shouldnt use new weapons, no, what i mean is, if you want to have something like a main weapon, you should feel free to use it against the odds, thats one way to great a great challenge and gain a good amount of experience. That does not invalidate that, sooner or later you should start experimenting new weapons, as if you dont, youll never have the full experience of the game.
There was a character in a game i loved that once said. There is no shame in defeat, as long as the spirit remains resolute!(though if you play with me and get my reward down to zero, ill probably take your spirit out of your unconscious body and use it as forge materials •.¢)
Also, the novice you had talked about, had he used the sns, he would probably not defeat him with such ease, as you said, there is a need for practice, and I shall add, that applies to every weapon and wyvern. That is the motive why MH is such an hard game to begin playing, and such a fun one to keep on doing it ;)
Im starting to hate you for making me write so much T_T (joke)
x_x i wasnt saying sword and shield was better, its just that its my weapon of choice, i thought the not using armour, the crappiest sns as well as no items was the point! it was a skill vs. equipment argument
and ofcourse everyone has one weapon they prefer but when you get ppl who say stuff like id rather die than use anything else you can tell that he is the sort of person to do a quest and not look at it again, because if he has fought tigrex a few times he would know what armour was good, etc. what weapon to use, its not the fact that i think you should use different weapons for different beasts (though i do think its a smart way to play) its that the hours you will spend playing will easily double or triple if you aim to make and use a wide range of weapons and therefore an overall skill level will be higher whilst still getting something in return.
now he has to build skill with no reward, learning how tigrex fights etc. its a lot less fun and there is a bigger chance he will give up, if he goes back and masters killing a single tigrex he might be alright, usually id suggest training but there is no longsword tigrex training (and theres a good reason for that)
i had a friend who only used long sword vs. everything, an exceptional hunter he wanted to beat everything with a longsword, and he did but he didnt do it out of love for the long sword he did it out of principle and later he said that he wished he had used other weapons as it made the game repetitive and he was messed up in endgame due to his lack of other weapons
x_x i wasnt saying sword and shield was better, its just that its my weapon of choice, i thought the not using armour, the crappiest sns as well as no items was the point! it was a skill vs. equipment argument
and ofcourse everyone has one weapon they prefer but when you get ppl who say stuff like id rather die than use anything else you can tell that he is the sort of person to do a quest and not look at it again, because if he has fought tigrex a few times he would know what armour was good, etc. what weapon to use, its not the fact that i think you should use different weapons for different beasts (though i do think its a smart way to play) its that the hours you will spend playing will easily double or triple if you aim to make and use a wide range of weapons and therefore an overall skill level will be higher whilst still getting something in return.
now he has to build skill with no reward, learning how tigrex fights etc. its a lot less fun and there is a bigger chance he will give up, if he goes back and masters killing a single tigrex he might be alright, usually id suggest training but there is no longsword tigrex training (and theres a good reason for that)
i had a friend who only used long sword vs. everything, an exceptional hunter he wanted to beat everything with a longsword, and he did but he didnt do it out of love for the long sword he did it out of principle and later he said that he wished he had used other weapons as it made the game repetitive and he was messed up in endgame due to his lack of other weapons
I disagree with using various weapons to make you have more hours of play, if you play the smart way, youll probably play less time since youll defeat them faster. (at least if youre like me, when i beat something hard i tend to take a rest, but im persistent so i just dont let go of the quest till i do it o.0)
And as i did say before, only using a weapon can give you mastery of it, the only motive i said what i said about the weapon was because he doesnt have to change weapons to make stuff easier, however, HE should replay quests using different weapons to enjoy the game, if he definitely only likes long sword, its his call.
I do agree that if a novice cant beat a tigrex normally he should go back to the single tigrex quest and redo it until he has mastered it, and the normal tigrex hunt is better to train than a training imo, since in mh you have to learn how to play with the landscape as well as everything else, while the arena has its merit, its not the best place to train for an urgent ^^
and once again, if you can kai, try getting people to help you do it in the hall, once youve actually acomplished a quest it becomes a LOT easier, and friends can spot stuff youre doing wrong and help you get better.
Onime-no-Enishi
05-02-09, 14:57
Hmm the above guides point out most of the armor skills that you would need, but there are some things that are missing so ill just post mine up (while summarizing what was already covered by the previous 2 posters).
I assume you are playing Monster Hunter Freedom 2.
I have done dual tigrex before using a LS, and that was my first time doing it too, and i was alone.
First off, weapons and armor:
Longsword:
The only longsword capable of killing tigrex fast enough that you can possibly obtain at that stage of the game is a True Devil Slicer, Get that.
Armor:
There are no required skills, but considering the fact that Longsword damage isnt great, I generally opt to get armor skills that boost my damage (Attack up, Sharpness +1, Sharp Sword and Reckless Abandon come to mind). If you opt to do it this way, PRACTICE really hard against a single tigrex to not get hit at all.
With that said, low rank Azure Rathalos, High rank or low rank shogun Cenataur or Rathalos armor works (or combinations of them).
Items to bring:
Far caster
Hot Drink
Potion x10
Honey x10
Mega potion x10
Max potion x2
Ancient Potion x1
Whetstone x20
Shock Trap x1
Trap Tool x2
Genprey fang x2
Pitfall trap x1
Tranq Bomb x8
Well-done steak x10
Paintballs
Flash bombs are optional.
On my very first play through, i forgot to bring my traps, and i generally dont use flash bombs so i could actually handle this quest WITHOUT helper items, you should be able to do so too, but bring the traps and tranq bombs to make the fight less frustrating (to prevent failing the quest because of time out).
Preparation:
Veggie + Meat with 5 felyne chefs gives = Atk Up Large (equivalent to a Mega Demon Drug) and +40 to maximum HP
The fight itself:
At the very start, if you are not near your base camp, use your far caster right away. Eat your well-done steak and head out of the camp to Area 1, 1 of the tigrex should be there. Engage him before he flies off, this is the best place to start the fight with a tigrex, as the other tigrex will not fly to this area, and this is the only area in the snowy mountains that pitfall trap will work on, so you can plant it before engaging it and lure it there only when you need to use it (be sure to use it before it flies off).
You will want to paint ball the tigrex and cut off his tail. You can try to break the head if you want to or the claws, but as a LS user, you generally attack the tigrexs tail at all times, even after the tail has been cut, you still attack the stump, or its wings (but you do more damage when attacking the tail). The reason you avoid the head is because it is VERY risky, as you do not have a block like a GS or a lance if you accidentally screw up and he starts biting (which will follow up with a lethal charge).
whenever he hops back and you see veins on his arms, stay away, he is gonna do a rage roar, and that signifies that he is enraged. When enraged, unsheath and keep dodging or lure him to the pitfall trap. Attack only when he falls in the trap, OR when he does a leap; When he does a leap, wait at a certain distance, he will do another leap and almost immediately after that, he will taunt, That is your ONLY opening when he is enraged.
Take note that a mission with dual wyverns mean that the wyverns die faster, keep your focus on this one single tigrex (flee when both are in the same map) and once he is dead, the other tigrex is easy as pie. when the tigrex is weak, you can opt to capture or kill him (capturing saves time, so do that).
With that said, once you get your first tigrex down, the 2nd should not be a problem. The biggest time waster is when they both are together and start flying the same direction at the same time (this is where the time problem comes in). So you want to kill/capture your first tigrex as soon as possible.
How to tell if a tigrex is weak:
A tigrex enrages with every 1-2 hits when his hp reaches 50%. This constant enrage ends when his hp gets below 30% or so. When you notice that he has stopped enraging, he is weakening, get him to enrage 1 full time or a 2nd time after the constant enrage and he should be weak enough to capture. Another more simpler way of finding out is when he starts limping when he is about to move to another area.
Regarding flash bombs:
I find that flashbombs are only useful when you need to do emergency healing or the likes, i find it near impossible to land multiple hits on a flashed tigrex as he keeps trashing about aimlessly (making him hard to predict). This of course depends on preferences and playstyle.
Random Tigrex Fact:
When he starts shoving rocks at seemingly no one at all, he is about to fly off to the next area. Just hit him from the sides or back (sometmes he repeatedly throw rocks at that empty spot for 2-3 times before flying off).
You hurt my feelings, my advice is by far superior!, is what i could say but no, discussing implies people are obliged to explain, that way the strong points and weak points of strategies are set clear, allowing others to opt by what they believe to be the better way, my advice is by far not complete nor perfect, as people have different play styles and i talk mostly with what ive experienced..
nontheless, onimes strategy is good, though i would advise against standing behind the tigrex as well (striking the tail deals good damage since its quite sensitive to thunder, but try doing it from the sides still), since he also jumps/leaps back, while that itself isnt TOO troublesome, its usually followed by a dash and drift.
Other than that, its clear and easy to follow.
Onime-no-Enishi
05-02-09, 22:49
You hurt my feelings, my advice is by far superior!, is what i could say but no, discussing implies people are obliged to explain, that way the strong points and weak points of strategies are set clear, allowing others to opt by what they believe to be the better way, my advice is by far not complete nor perfect, as people have different play styles and i talk mostly with what ive experienced..
nontheless, onimes strategy is good, though i would advise against standing behind the tigrex as well (striking the tail deals good damage since its quite sensitive to thunder, but try doing it from the sides still), since he also jumps/leaps back, while that itself isnt TOO troublesome, its usually followed by a dash and drift.
Other than that, its clear and easy to follow.
eep sorry, wasnt my intention >.< i re-read the start of my post and i thought it kinda look abit offensive too, sorry. Im gonna edit it >.<
You hurt my feelings, my advice is by far superior!, is what i could say but no, discussing implies people are obliged to explain, that way the strong points and weak points of strategies are set clear, allowing others to opt by what they believe to be the better way, my advice is by far not complete nor perfect, as people have different play styles and i talk mostly with what ive experienced..
nontheless, onimes strategy is good, though i would advise against standing behind the tigrex as well (striking the tail deals good damage since its quite sensitive to thunder, but try doing it from the sides still), since he also jumps/leaps back, while that itself isnt TOO troublesome, its usually followed by a dash and drift.
Other than that, its clear and easy to follow.
eep sorry, wasnt my intention >.< i re-read the start of my post and i thought it kinda look abit offensive too, sorry. Im gonna edit it >.<
dont, i was joking and i dont take such small things personally, lifes too short for that XD ;)
Eat your well-done steak and head out of the camp to Area 1, 1 of the tigrex should be there. Engage him before he flies off, this is the best place to start the fight with a tigrex, as the other tigrex will not fly to this area, and this is the only area in the snowy mountains that pitfall trap will work on,
Actually you can use a Pitfall Trap in the nest cave Area 3 too. I used it to trap and slay my first Tigrex.
you didnt have to change you post :dead: i think the real reason we are arguing is that i have no faith in the original poster yet i still feel obliged to give advice where as helbion has much more faith in the original poster but his playing style is slightly different to mine
Lord_Dominion
06-02-09, 13:57
heheehe....I am stuck at this same quest. I bought both MHF 1 and 2 at the same time. On MHF2 I am stock at the dual tigrex and in MHF 1, I am stuck at the urgent lao to get to hr3. I killed all Laos so far with hammers accept for the urgent one to get to hr3. It seems to be about to die but I am unable to kill it and it always breaks the fort in the last 2 minutes. so annoying....it always seems like victory is so close and then I get denied! :mad:
I am gonna give it a try again as soon as I fix my psp or buy a new one. It had a few accidental falls. Now it gets blackouts during gameplay...I have to put it out and then put it back on so that I can see the screen again.
I have a few strategies of my one that I am gonna try and if they work Ill post them here.
Thanks for the advice guys
As for Helbion, I know youre probably amazing and have completed every mission or what not, but still, Level 7 G rank is hardly beginner!!!
Oh, and just because I cant kill dual Tigrex G Rank doesnt mean I havent seen or beaten for that matter an elder dragon. In fact, I am better at fighting the elder dragons than I am at the Tigrex.
ª_ª my first post says high grade earplugs
and of course its possible with a katana, but new players always choose katana and its a difficult weapon to learn how to use properly, and i know he wont be able to beat them because he is so new to the game that he refuses to use a different weapon I am not a new player, I have been playing it for a year and a half, I am not new to the game, I have played nearly all of the monster hunter series and most of all, I refuse to use a different weapon because LS is the one I am most experienced with, and its my favourite. Let me list the bad things of other weapons for you.
Hammer:Too slow, short range
GS: Good range, but still relatively slow
Hunting Horn: Same as hammer with strange melodies
SnS:Weak, short range
DS: So weak it makes me cry, no block, impossibly short range
Lance/Gunlance:Quite weak, movement is so slow!
Ranged wapons:Just hate them, cant use them, weakish
LONGSWORD:Quite strong (when it comes to the higher rankd weapons which, surprisingly to some, I can easily get), quite fast, can roll to avoid most attacks, very long range
That is why I like LS. Im not a beginner, Im not new to the game, but it is my favourite weapon and the one Im most skilled with.
And for the record, my friend has completed every mission with LS
Onime-no-Enishi
06-02-09, 19:12
ª_ª my first post says high grade earplugs
and of course its possible with a katana, but new players always choose katana and its a difficult weapon to learn how to use properly, and i know he wont be able to beat them because he is so new to the game that he refuses to use a different weapon I am not a new player, I have been playing it for a year and a half, I am not new to the game, I have played nearly all of the monster hunter series and most of all, I refuse to use a different weapon because LS is the one I am most experienced with, and its my favourite. Let me list the bad things of other weapons for you.
Hammer:Too slow, short range
GS: Good range, but still relatively slow
Hunting Horn: Same as hammer with strange melodies
SnS:Weak, short range
DS: So weak it makes me cry, no block, impossibly short range
Lance/Gunlance:Quite weak, movement is so slow!
Ranged wapons:Just hate them, cant use them, weakish
LONGSWORD:Quite strong (when it comes to the higher rankd weapons which, surprisingly to some, I can easily get), quite fast, can roll to avoid most attacks, very long range
That is why I like LS. Im not a beginner, Im not new to the game, but it is my favourite weapon and the one Im most skilled with.
And for the record, my friend has completed every mission with LS
I agree with being able to beat the game with LS, since ive done it in P2G. And now i get the picture, ur playing Portable 2nd G, this means the strategy should be the same but the gear is different. But then again, the dual tigrex G rank quest is in HR9...
O_o oh right, i think you meant high rank (commonly known as G rank before 2nd G came out), so yea. The strats already provided should work =P (else i might start recommending Great Sword, because its seriously the ultimate tigrex smasher; but im not sure how effective it will be in Freedom 2, since in Portable 2G, there is this armor skill which increases Greatsword Charge speed)
If there was an armour skill which made GS as fast as the LS I would use it, but its just too slow for my liking.
Whats the point in having a block if you cant get it up before youre hit?
thats an odd problem to have, just dont attack when the monster is about to attack
Onime-no-Enishi
06-02-09, 20:12
If there was an armour skill which made GS as fast as the LS I would use it, but its just too slow for my liking.
Whats the point in having a block if you cant get it up before youre hit?
its the problem with playstyle i believe.
greatswords have the fastest block recovery in the game, in fact, its instant. You play a greatsword by timing triple charges to land on the head of a wyvern, if you dont do it that way, you might as well play a longsword (which i believe its why ur using a longsword now). Of course, the other attacks of the greatswords are good too, but they are generally good for AoE lesser monster killing.
Also, the movement penalty of greatswords is none existant. You ALWAYS keep it sheathed unless you really want to hit something (you can still block from a sheathed stance by holding R + T + O).
1 thing i find using a longsword (or a weapon taht cant block, but most especially longswords) is that you cant be fully aggressive thanks to the fact that you cant block. As a greatsword user, i would charge my GS while standing behind the tigrex (towards the tip of the tail) and by the time it faces me, id have a 3rd charge and am bound to smash/flinch him in the head, and since his head is his weakness, it deals MASSIVE damage. G rank tigrex (real G rank, as in HR 9 in MHP2G) lasts less then 10 minutes against me with a greatsword (and around ~7 or so when using traps and stuff).
when you can block, you can keep hitting the wyvern til the last minute and either try to dodge or if its too late to dodge, you can block. This is pretty much why i generally prefer weapons with a shield now (other than DS, they own!).
SILENTKILLER
06-02-09, 20:41
Get a Devil Slicer, get Flashbombs, get 3 Stun Traps n slash em to death. Dont fight em when they r both in the same zone, only paint 1 Tigarex so u kno which 1 is the damaged 1. You could also take Kirin Bolt Ultimus or the Kirin Kami duals, but i think the Longsword is the easiest as single player. If u got some friends, take a bowgun that can shoot clust lvl2 ( also ur friends take it ), flash the Tigarex, shoot it, flash, shoot etc..... So easy :d
Get a Devil Slicer, get Flashbombs, get 3 Stun Traps n slash em to death. Dont fight em when they r both in the same zone, only paint 1 Tigarex so u kno which 1 is the damaged 1. You could also take Kirin Bolt Ultimus or the Kirin Kami duals, but i think the Longsword is the easiest as single player. If u got some friends, take a bowgun that can shoot clust lvl2 ( also ur friends take it ), flash the Tigarex, shoot it, flash, shoot etc..... So easy :d
Oh, you remind me of the time me and a friend killed a tigrex by confusing him with pellet spam, he didnt know who to hit first (this was a one time thing, dont think youll be able to make him switch targets during the whole fight, its not gonna happen).
dexter i disagree with most of the things you said about weapons.
Hammer isnt too slow if you know the movesets.
GS defends the faster in the game as has been said
sns while having a small attack it has great maneuverability, flexibility and it has guard.
Dual Swords are one of the best stagger makers in the game, while the attack they have is not HUGE, the percentage dealed by each blow, and the number of blows dealt within a certain time span certainly make up for that, they are fast. more than anything else, the bad point of the duals isnt their damage rate, that is pretty good actually, the duals bad point is... I HATE YOU GRAVIOS! IMMA MAKE YOU PAY FOR MY WHETSTONES! (when i say gravios, you can look at it as nearly any monster in the game, duals just eat too much sharpness)
lances are great stagger makers also, you just need to learn how to head lock, and you can make most wyverns barely move.
i dont understand how ranged weapons can be seen as weak, bows are so overpowered that it is beyond words, they are by far the weapon that kills fatalis the faster.
since you listed the ls good points and not the bad, then ls has a certain dependency of the spirit bar, the percentage of damage dealt is lower than a GS and its got no guard.
note: just because a weapon has a great raw/elemental doesnt mean it deals that much damage, there are multipliers, a greatsword with 1000 raw, doesnt deal 1000 damage with a normal blow, and truth be said, mhfs elemental damage is not anything special, its RARE, for an elemental weapon to be better than one with sheer raw, face it kids, RAWs the way to go.
the only weapons where ive actually seen much diference in elements is the duals and the sns since their raw is low, and even there, akantor blades kick some serious ass.
Onime-no-Enishi
06-02-09, 22:17
Get a Devil Slicer, get Flashbombs, get 3 Stun Traps n slash em to death. Dont fight em when they r both in the same zone, only paint 1 Tigarex so u kno which 1 is the damaged 1. You could also take Kirin Bolt Ultimus or the Kirin Kami duals, but i think the Longsword is the easiest as single player. If u got some friends, take a bowgun that can shoot clust lvl2 ( also ur friends take it ), flash the Tigarex, shoot it, flash, shoot etc..... So easy :d
Hmm even if you were to use a HBG or LBG (HBG preferably, it deals more damage) when ur with a friend, Clust and crags are useless against tigrex in terms of DPS. All because they have the most limited ammo does not mean they are powerful, although they are useful for stunning wyverns by shooting at their head. Clusts and Crags are only good against wyverns that have a much higher armor (think Gravios, Black Gravios, Crimson Fatalis Armor Mode and White Fatalis Armor Mode) because, like bombs and gunlance shells, their damage ignores armor.
Best shots to use against a tigrex are:
Pierce
Pellet (when soloing)
Normal 2 (not 3, unless you know where you are shooting at and from what angle)
Thunder S
SILENTKILLER
07-02-09, 05:35
Get a Devil Slicer, get Flashbombs, get 3 Stun Traps n slash em to death. Dont fight em when they r both in the same zone, only paint 1 Tigarex so u kno which 1 is the damaged 1. You could also take Kirin Bolt Ultimus or the Kirin Kami duals, but i think the Longsword is the easiest as single player. If u got some friends, take a bowgun that can shoot clust lvl2 ( also ur friends take it ), flash the Tigarex, shoot it, flash, shoot etc..... So easy :d
Hmm even if you were to use a HBG or LBG (HBG preferably, it deals more damage) when ur with a friend, Clust and crags are useless against tigrex in terms of DPS. All because they have the most limited ammo does not mean they are powerful, although they are useful for stunning wyverns by shooting at their head. Clusts and Crags are only good against wyverns that have a much higher armor (think Gravios, Black Gravios, Crimson Fatalis Armor Mode and White Fatalis Armor Mode) because, like bombs and gunlance shells, their damage ignores armor.
Best shots to use against a tigrex are:
Pierce
Pellet (when soloing)
Normal 2 (not 3, unless you know where you are shooting at and from what angle)
Thunder S
..... If youre a 4 man team, Dual Tigarex is done in 4min with only clusts ..... = Most Powerfull Ammo in the Game, 4 players = 53 clusts x 4 = 212 clusts. Flash , shoot, flash, shoot - Quest over. Even as 2 players ull be done in 10-15 mins if ur quick. Clust > all other ammo. And if u can use clust 3 aswell then its just perfect.
Onime-no-Enishi
07-02-09, 12:36
Get a Devil Slicer, get Flashbombs, get 3 Stun Traps n slash em to death. Dont fight em when they r both in the same zone, only paint 1 Tigarex so u kno which 1 is the damaged 1. You could also take Kirin Bolt Ultimus or the Kirin Kami duals, but i think the Longsword is the easiest as single player. If u got some friends, take a bowgun that can shoot clust lvl2 ( also ur friends take it ), flash the Tigarex, shoot it, flash, shoot etc..... So easy :d
Hmm even if you were to use a HBG or LBG (HBG preferably, it deals more damage) when ur with a friend, Clust and crags are useless against tigrex in terms of DPS. All because they have the most limited ammo does not mean they are powerful, although they are useful for stunning wyverns by shooting at their head. Clusts and Crags are only good against wyverns that have a much higher armor (think Gravios, Black Gravios, Crimson Fatalis Armor Mode and White Fatalis Armor Mode) because, like bombs and gunlance shells, their damage ignores armor.
Best shots to use against a tigrex are:
Pierce
Pellet (when soloing)
Normal 2 (not 3, unless you know where you are shooting at and from what angle)
Thunder S
..... If youre a 4 man team, Dual Tigarex is done in 4min with only clusts ..... = Most Powerfull Ammo in the Game, 4 players = 53 clusts x 4 = 212 clusts. Flash , shoot, flash, shoot - Quest over. Even as 2 players ull be done in 10-15 mins if ur quick. Clust > all other ammo. And if u can use clust 3 aswell then its just perfect.
im sorry but i have to disagree. Clust S is the most expensive and the most limited ammo. But it does not mean its the most powerful, as it isnt.
There is no such thing is a most powerful ammo because every ammo has different levels of effectiveness depending on the wyvern, and if you are to consider the maximum possible damage from a single shot with an ammo, that would be from Pierce 3 (which would theoretically be the most powerful ammo but only applicable if the wyvern is long/large enough for all of the damage to kick in as the ammo pierces through the entire wyvern, and assuming you are not shooting a gravios or a white/crimson fatalis in armor mode).
Clust shot is meant for Armor piercing, as i have stated earlier. Tigrex has a decent-low armor, thus, clust shots will be useless against it (it will deal damage but its too low). Not to mention that the tigrex is quite agile and that he has alot of holes (its body is not Large and complete enough for all shots on a clust to hit consistently).
take this video as an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkSKeLwKYxI&feature=channel
(take note that the person in the video is doing this quest using G rank armor from MHP2G doing the high rank version of dual tigrex, thus, if you are playing Freedom 2, dont expect to kill a tigrex in 4 minutes when soloing. Also, he is using an armor with Evade +2, Evade Distance Inc and Speedfire, which if i remember right, Evade +2 and Evade distance increase are Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G armor skills and do not exist in Monster Hunter Freedom 2).
His video also has a link to the original guide. Clust S is best only against large, slow wyverns that have a very high armor value.
clusts are in truth, good agains LARGE and preferably slow wyverns.
Since what counts the most on the clust is how many explosions hit the wyvern, shoow one at tigrex, and hell just run at you and youll see most damage wasted on mere landscape.
While they are the most damaging rounds, they are only so, by hitting fully, and small/fast wyverns make that quite hard, if not impossible, hence being a bad choice for most enemies, not to mention they are harder to make and very limited, but most of thats been said before.
SILENTKILLER
08-02-09, 19:12
OMG did u both never play MH ?? And what u r saying lol its not good vs Tigarex cause hes too fast ... did u read what i wrote ? Ill tell u again - FLASHBOMB - Shoot clust - FLASHBOMBS - shoot clust. So what do u understand now ? Heres the solution : Tigarex is NOT moving, so all of the clusters will HIT = Best damage. And this goes for every monster ull hit with flash n clust.
And Onime, Clust 3 is indeed the most Powerfull ammo for the bowguns, clust 2 the 2nd best, not as u say Pierce 3. Pierce 3 isnt bad, but clust > all. If you cant shoot tigarex with clusts cause u miss him, then i cant think of u sayin what is better. How can u MISS the monster lol ?? He has a lot of holes lol, if ur shooting through em in the wall behind him then u need glasses :d
Also i dont need a video proof of anything, ive finished every MH game, i dont care what other people can do or cant, also why r u saying i cant expect to kill a tigarex solo in 4 min ? Did i ever say its possible solo ? Read my Text, i said as 4 - man - Team . And what is it about ur armor of the wyvern stuff, i think i should tell ya that i dont care about any armor or damage multiplicators, i have finished the game, every single quest, ive done everything i wanted, so dont tell me its like this or like that, i know how it is and if i say u can do this, then u can. All you could say is Ok i never tried, but i prefer this method or I tried that but it didnt work for me .
BTW.: Sorry for talking like that to you, but as i said, i did everything, if i say its possible, then i did it personally. So i kinda cant hear all these Its not possible or Its no better than things when i did it by myself.
when i fight kirin i take clusts, ppl keep saying pellets are better against it but ive yet to have any problems, and you dont get much harder to hit than a kirin :d besides since its not based on your attack it means you can have a light bowgun and better skills etc.
also i dont really dabble in calculations either, i mean its useful to know stuff like the charge up slash on a great sword doesnt modify elemental damage, last hit on the hammer is the strongest etc. but other than that i find that experiance is a better way to lear, in monster hunter atleast
Onime-no-Enishi
08-02-09, 19:40
OMG did u both never play MH ?? And what u r saying lol its not good vs Tigarex cause hes too fast ... did u read what i wrote ? Ill tell u again - FLASHBOMB - Shoot clust - FLASHBOMBS - shoot clust. So what do u understand now ? Heres the solution : Tigarex is NOT moving, so all of the clusters will HIT = Best damage. And this goes for every monster ull hit with flash n clust.
And Onime, Clust 3 is indeed the most Powerfull ammo for the bowguns, clust 2 the 2nd best, not as u say Pierce 3. Pierce 3 isnt bad, but clust > all. If you cant shoot tigarex with clusts cause u miss him, then i cant think of u sayin what is better. How can u MISS the monster lol ?? He has a lot of holes lol, if ur shooting through em in the wall behind him then u need glasses :d
Also i dont need a video proof of anything, ive finished every MH game, i dont care what other people can do or cant, also why r u saying i cant expect to kill a tigarex solo in 4 min ? Did i ever say its possible solo ? Read my Text, i said as 4 - man - Team . And what is it about ur armor of the wyvern stuff, i think i should tell ya that i dont care about any armor or damage multiplicators, i have finished the game, every single quest, ive done everything i wanted, so dont tell me its like this or like that, i know how it is and if i say u can do this, then u can. All you could say is Ok i never tried, but i prefer this method or I tried that but it didnt work for me .
BTW.: Sorry for talking like that to you, but as i said, i did everything, if i say its possible, then i did it personally. So i kinda cant hear all these Its not possible or Its no better than things when i did it by myself.
-_- wow, that was uncalled for. Before asking me to wear glasses, i suggest you do the same.
o.o;; you can reread my post about the soloing in 4 minutes thing, i never mentioned that you cant kill a tigrex with 4 people under 4 minutes. O_o pretty much your 3rd paragraph is full of statements that showed that you misunderstood my post. Also about the clusts hitting part, i said it wont fully hit consistently i never said it wont hit at all, the clust shot spread is too random, sometimes it flies too far and 1-2 pellets might not hit the tigrex at all, and at times, it seemed like it just dropped from the initial explosion, and they all hit the floor, if there is nothing below the impact spot.
Also, if you do not care about armor reduction or doing your own mathcraft/theorycrafting, do not claim with full confidence that something is definitely the best because you do not truly understand if it really is the best or not.
Pierce 3 will outdo clust 3 on a non-armor-mode monster anyday. Reason? the recoil on clust shot is so high, you can shoot 2-3 pierce shots for every 1 clust shot you can shoot. And in terms of a tigrex, Thunder S will out do all other shots, full stop. Thunder S deals massive damage and has no recoil at all.
I would list down the calculations if you wish, but its quite long so I myself am abit reluctant to type it all down >.<
i feel duty bound to remind you that tigrex is dam fast, HBG wouldnt exactly be great against it i dunno how that factors in with battle calculations but like i said since clusts are not based on attack LBG is the way to go!
SILENTKILLER
08-02-09, 19:55
Again Onime - I told ya, i did everything on every monster. Sayin i dont need any calculators doesnt mean i dont understand which ammo makes the most damage on any wyvern, it just means that i learned stuff by doin, unlike u by reading a calculator. How many hours do you play to tell me what is the better thing ?
Clusts are not to random , if u know how to shoot + if u know where to shoot, not 1 clust will miss. Thunder is Tigarex weakness, still not as good as clust, maybe ur calculator says im wrong, but my experience says im correct. Before u reply, try it. Do a Elder Tigarex with clust 2, and do it again with thunder S. Can u kill a Tigarex with 50 Thunder S ? I never tried any other ammo than clust on low level Tigarex, but 18 clust 2 kills it. ( Yes Exactly 18 shots ).
About ur armor modes again, you shoot, monster dies. If u claim so much on these FAQs someone made about damage and defense of all the wyvern, then u fail as a hunter. U rely on informations others made and refuse to try somethin thats not correct for the FAQ. Try the stuff i tell u, n ull see what i mean. If u fail to hit the monster with clust, learn how to clust, then try again. In the end ull see that my method is very good. Experience > Maths.
Sure, u can keep ur calculations in mind and continue playing like MH is a Math lesson, but instead of tellin others to think like u, just do as i said an say Ok but i still prefer my calculations , then i dont get upset by u tellin me i m wrong.
i feel duty bound to remind you that tigrex is dam fast, HBG wouldnt exactly be great against it i dunno how that factors in with battle calculations but like i said since clusts are not based on attack LBG is the way to go!
lol - for MHP2nd G , Kirin LBG is great, ur fast, it can shoot many ammo types + i remind u , tigarex cant move in my way, cause hes flashed all the time by 1 of the 4 players.
yea i already know about that light bowgun b)
and we (harrow hunters) dont use flash bombs for battle purposes, we have adopted them as a sort of compensation, since we play mh so much pretty much all our psps are dying, two of us have control sticks that randomly get stuck and your forced to run straight, so we save flash bombs for when this happens! (it happens a lot)
the only other time we use flash bombs is if we are like farming rubies and cant be bothered to fight it so me just take flash bombs and power pills and kill silver rathalos in like 3mins :d
but yea, real men dont use flash bombs
SILENTKILLER
08-02-09, 20:09
yea i already know about that light bowgun b)
and we (harrow hunters) dont use flash bombs for battle purposes, we have adopted them as a sort of compensation, since we play mh so much pretty much all our psps are dying, two of us have control sticks that randomly get stuck and your forced to run straight, so we save flash bombs for when this happens! (it happens a lot)
the only other time we use flash bombs is if we are like farming rubies and cant be bothered to fight it so me just take flash bombs and power pills and kill silver rathalos in like 3mins :d
but yea, real men dont use flash bombs
Ok first of all, if u use a flashbomb on Silver Rathalos or Gold Rathian while they r flying ( in 2nd G ), they can drop Plates, Rubies and Heavenly Scales. So its good to use flashes for that moment.
Sure, ur right, u can play without flashbombs n fight like real men ( lol ), or u can spam flashbombs to save some time. I dont use flash to prevent my death, i use flash to kill fast, especially if im after a special item. Also i dont flash every Monster, Gravios, Plesioth, Basarios, Volganos, Naruga, Hypnock, Kutku, Gypceros ( cant be flashed anyway ), Cephadrome, Khezu ( same as gyp ), Kirin ( same as gyp ), Teo, Nana, Oonazuchi - those i dont flash. Basically i only flash Tigarex, Los/Ian, Diablos in rage mode, Rahjan, Akamu and Ukamurubasu, cause they have a lot of health in G rank.
Onime-no-Enishi
08-02-09, 20:13
Again Onime - I told ya, i did everything on every monster. Sayin i dont need any calculators doesnt mean i dont understand which ammo makes the most damage on any wyvern, it just means that i learned stuff by doin, unlike u by reading a calculator. How many hours do you play to tell me what is the better thing ?
Clusts are not to random , if u know how to shoot + if u know where to shoot, not 1 clust will miss. Thunder is Tigarex weakness, still not as good as clust, maybe ur calculator says im wrong, but my experience says im correct. Before u reply, try it. Do a Elder Tigarex with clust 2, and do it again with thunder S. Can u kill a Tigarex with 50 Thunder S ? I never tried any other ammo than clust on low level Tigarex, but 18 clust 2 kills it. ( Yes Exactly 18 shots ).
About ur armor modes again, you shoot, monster dies. If u claim so much on these FAQs someone made about damage and defense of all the wyvern, then u fail as a hunter. U rely on informations others made and refuse to try somethin thats not correct for the FAQ. Try the stuff i tell u, n ull see what i mean. If u fail to hit the monster with clust, learn how to clust, then try again. In the end ull see that my method is very good. Experience > Maths.
Sure, u can keep ur calculations in mind and continue playing like MH is a Math lesson, but instead of tellin others to think like u, just do as i said an say Ok but i still prefer my calculations , then i dont get upset by u tellin me i m wrong.
you instantly assume i have not played monster hunter much. And you instantly assume ive been relying on mathcrafting and/or theorycrafting all my life. wrong.
I have played Monster Hunter since its release in PS2, and have completed every monster hunter game to date, other than Monster Hunter Frontier. I have only recently begun researcing on theorycrafting and mathcrafting about 6 months AFTER i have completed every single mission in MHP2G (that includes download missions too, yes, i soloed dual SSJ2 rajang in the great arena), yes, i have only started to play around with calculated methods only recently.
After much thought with math crafting and theorycrafting, I realized that alot of things that i have been doing in the past arent exactly the best method possible. Sure, it gets things done, thats all that matters, but I just wanted to see what the best was, thus, i theorycraft.
I only posted the argument to correct you about saying clust 3 being the best, because although it is good, i admit, it isnt exactly the best. Also, i cannot believe your ignorance with armor mode, have you soloed a crimson or white fatalis before you actually got your crazy good gear? =O The armor mode is the bane of all start-up hunters when they first encounter crimson and white fata (especially the downloaded ones).
getting the prize by flash bombs is cheap, you should learn to time hammer strikes to knock em out of the air with the last hit (its bloody hard to get good with this timing, i mastered it for a short while but went back to great sword and now im not so good at it)
Again Onime - I told ya, i did everything on every monster. Sayin i dont need any calculators doesnt mean i dont understand which ammo makes the most damage on any wyvern, it just means that i learned stuff by doin, unlike u by reading a calculator. How many hours do you play to tell me what is the better thing ?
Clusts are not to random , if u know how to shoot + if u know where to shoot, not 1 clust will miss. Thunder is Tigarex weakness, still not as good as clust, maybe ur calculator says im wrong, but my experience says im correct. Before u reply, try it. Do a Elder Tigarex with clust 2, and do it again with thunder S. Can u kill a Tigarex with 50 Thunder S ? I never tried any other ammo than clust on low level Tigarex, but 18 clust 2 kills it. ( Yes Exactly 18 shots ).
About ur armor modes again, you shoot, monster dies. If u claim so much on these FAQs someone made about damage and defense of all the wyvern, then u fail as a hunter. U rely on informations others made and refuse to try somethin thats not correct for the FAQ. Try the stuff i tell u, n ull see what i mean. If u fail to hit the monster with clust, learn how to clust, then try again. In the end ull see that my method is very good. Experience > Maths.
Sure, u can keep ur calculations in mind and continue playing like MH is a Math lesson, but instead of tellin others to think like u, just do as i said an say Ok but i still prefer my calculations , then i dont get upset by u tellin me i m wrong.
i feel duty bound to remind you that tigrex is dam fast, HBG wouldnt exactly be great against it i dunno how that factors in with battle calculations but like i said since clusts are not based on attack LBG is the way to go!
lol - for MHP2nd G , Kirin LBG is great, ur fast, it can shoot many ammo types + i remind u , tigarex cant move in my theory, cause hes flashed all the time by 1 of the 4 players.
Again and again you prove ignorance.
Using clusts on a tigrex is quite the waste, first you are dependant on the flashes to make him stay still.
Also, it is quite fun to see you giving an advice that only works good for 4 players, as we are clearly giving him hints onto what to do alone, and still work while on a multi-player quest, with other players any quest is quite easier, you are forcing him to get people to help him out, and as such, the offline quests will remain undone and he will in future cases be dependant on others.
the faqs tell people an aproximate value, not a concrete value, however denying the multipliers and refusing to learn whats beter to what, simply proves that you do not know how to play the game, you simply shoot clusts.
Damage calculators do not make you know how to play, however they give you an edge and tell you what deals more damage in which parts of the body or simply in which wyvern, depending on the calculator, i have been trying it out myself and as such, i know they are quite accurate.
clusts are spread in an area.
You can kill tigrex with thunder S and pellets quite easily.
i do not refuse to try things not on a faq, but exactly by having tried it i am telling you that clust are not the right ammo for anything, if you waste clusts on a yian kut ku then i believe it is you whom fail as a hunter.
You waste too much ammo AND items, assume there are four people in the quest, and advise people to ignore calculators, i see quite a lot of what i would consider to be bad advice.
We did never imply it is impossible, we said it wasnt a good way having into consideration the implications of what you said.
Also, ive played for quite over 1000 hours, and this is not counting times i didnt save cuz the carves or rewards sucked, while i do not know for how long youve played i do not think you should comment upon things you ignore, for once again it simply shows ignorance.
edit: Im sorry for the agressive tone of the post, however it sort of annoys me to see people assuming things about people they dont know.
Onime-no-Enishi
08-02-09, 20:47
Eat your well-done steak and head out of the camp to Area 1, 1 of the tigrex should be there. Engage him before he flies off, this is the best place to start the fight with a tigrex, as the other tigrex will not fly to this area, and this is the only area in the snowy mountains that pitfall trap will work on,
Actually you can use a Pitfall Trap in the nest cave Area 3 too. I used it to trap and slay my first Tigrex.
ah yes, i forgot about that, thanks for pointing it out xD
(also works in area 2 too but no major monsters go there =p)
just remeber to keep it nice people :)
SILENTKILLER
08-02-09, 21:00
Onime:
No i didnt solo a Fatalis to get my gear, i killed it so many times with 3 others. Why should i get through a long n hard way when i can call 3 friends n kill stuff together ?
Also, 2nd G Fatalis has much more health than the 8* fatalis , i cba to kill em alone all the time, when i can kill 2 or 3 in the same time as a 4 player team. I soloed the Fatalis in Portable 2, with my beloved Akamu Bow. Was a boring fight. I never had a 4 player team in Portable 2, i soloed the game alone, then i found someone who had it too, n we tried all the Fatalis together to see if its much faster. 2 Players, 2x Akamu Bow, normal Fatalis 10min dead, Crimson 13min and White almost the same as crimson. Without bombs, just Power Arrows n Poison ones, then normal.
What do u mean by Did u solo a Fatalis before u got ur good gear ? What has it to do with my gear ? I went to Fatalis in Volganus Gunner armor ( No Ko skill ), killed it n used that armor lol. I had Miraruuts Z first, then Moribalken Z n then Dragon X. ( That goes for 2nd G )
Why do you say especially the downloaded ones ? They r easier than the normal ones ( for me ), i never did the trainings cause im too lazy, so i downloaded em. Very easy.
Btw: Are u american or European ?
Sinister:
Even though u may be right, i hate hammers ^^ Always hated em since MH on PS2, i just use em sometimes for fun, especially on Teo and Nana, KOing em XD. But for me they r too slow.
Hebion:
Im not sayin he should find some friends, i said IF you have some friends, do it like this .
I dont know how to play the game - i simply shoot clusts. Nice 1, made me laugh :d . I saw these calculators, and i dont understand why people like u and Onime rely so much on them after usin them. You sound like its the Bible of MH, people who dont use em cant play.
I waste Ammo and Items - these items r bought from the lady in front of the Guild Hall, Flashbugs can be bought, Sm Husk, Wyvern Claws, Bomb Material. So actually its not a waste since i can restock em, in other words they r unlimited.
Another thing i dont understand now, u didnt save cause of carves n rewards ? lol this is kinda ...... , u need to kill the monster for the item u want again anyway, so why not keepin the items u just got n kill it again.
Ok uve played for 1000 hours+, I dunno how long Onime played. Youre no noobs ( never said so ), u have ur opinion n it seems u share the same one. I dont, n i say this is the best cause i believe it is, but u people always try to correct me as if im wrong. I aint.
You say i should use a calculator ..... Here is my answer why i dont. I played more than 5000 h of MH ( total time of all MH together ), i invented Headlock to europe and after that i invented 3hit Headlock too. I killed more than 15000 wyvern online in MH on PS2, which makes me #1 killer in europe. ( Yes there is no one with more, ive checked ). Doin all that, killin so many wvyner in so many ways, i kno what im doin. Maybe u kno what ur doin too with ur calculator, but theres a faster way outside these calculations. The calculator says clusts arent good for this wyvern cause of i dunno ( lol ), but if u try n if u reall hit all of em, ull see.
Im not ignorant, im just playing MH for 5 years now and i think i can have my own opinion and hold on to it. I never said u should do stuff like me, but u shouldnt say im wrong. Everyone has his own way to play, you use a calculator , i use my own way due to my exp i earned in the last 5 years + i wanna save time with flash n traps. It works for both sides.
Np ur not agressive to me, n i dont assume anything of u. And as u say, dont assume things about people you dont know, you cant know how i play, so dont assume my ways r bad or not workin.
Onime-no-Enishi
08-02-09, 21:18
Onime:
No i didnt solo a Fatalis to get my gear, i killed it so many times with 3 others. Why should i get through a long n hard way when i can call 3 friends n kill stuff together ?
Also, 2nd G Fatalis has much more health than the 8* fatalis , i cba to kill em alone all the time, when i can kill 2 or 3 in the same time as a 4 player team. I soloed the Fatalis in Portable 2, with my beloved Akamu Bow. Was a boring fight. I never had a 4 player team in Portable 2, i soloed the game alone, then i found someone who had it too, n we tried all the Fatalis together to see if its much faster. 2 Players, 2x Akamu Bow, normal Fatalis 10min dead, Crimson 13min and White almost the same as crimson. Without bombs, just Power Arrows n Poison ones, then normal.
What do u mean by Did u solo a Fatalis before u got ur good gear ? What has it to do with my gear ? I went to Fatalis in Volganus Gunner armor ( No Ko skill ), killed it n used that armor lol. I had Miraruuts Z first, then Moribalken Z n then Dragon X. ( That goes for 2nd G )
Why do you say especially the downloaded ones ? They r easier than the normal ones ( for me ), i never did the trainings cause im too lazy, so i downloaded em. Very easy.
Btw: Are u american or European ?
Sinister:
Even though u may be right, i hate hammers ^^ Always hated em since MH on PS2, i just use em sometimes for fun, especially on Teo and Nana, KOing em XD. But for me they r too slow.
Hebion:
Im not sayin he should find some friends, i said IF you have some friends, do it like this .
I dont know how to play the game - i simply shoot clusts. Nice 1, made me laugh :d . I saw these calculators, and i dont understand why people like u and Onime rely so much on them after usin them. You sound like its the Bible of MH, people who dont use em cant play.
I waste Ammo and Items - these items r bought from the lady in front of the Guild Hall, Flashbugs can be bought, Sm Husk, Wyvern Claws, Bomb Material. So actually its not a waste since i can restock em, in other words they r unlimited.
Another thing i dont understand now, u didnt save cause of carves n rewards ? lol this is kinda ...... , u need to kill the monster for the item u want again anyway, so why not keepin the items u just got n kill it again.
Ok uve played for 1000 hours+, I dunno how long Onime played. Youre no noobs ( never said so ), u have ur opinion n it seems u share the same one. I dont, n i say this is the best cause i believe it is, but u people always try to correct me as if im wrong. I aint.
You say i should use a calculator ..... Here is my answer why i dont. I played more than 5000 h of MH ( total time of all MH together ), i invented Headlock to europe and after that i invented 3hit Headlock too. I killed more than 15000 wyvern online in MH on PS2, which makes me #1 killer in europe. ( Yes there is no one with more, ive checked ). Doin all that, killin so many wvyner in so many ways, i kno what im doin. Maybe u kno what ur doin too with ur calculator, but theres a faster way outside these calculations. The calculator says clusts arent good for this wyvern cause of i dunno ( lol ), but if u try n if u reall hit all of em, ull see.
Im not ignorant, im just playing MH for 5 years now and i think i can have my own opinion and hold on to it. I never said u should do stuff like me, but u shouldnt say im wrong. Everyone has his own way to play, you use a calculator , i use my own way due to my exp i earned in the last 5 years + i wanna save time with flash n traps. It works for both sides.
Np ur not agressive to me, n i dont assume anything of u. And as u say, dont assume things about people you dont know, you cant know how i play, so dont assume my ways r bad or not workin.
=o well then, I speak from the experience and point of view as a player who has soloed my entire life, and when you solo, you are required to dish out as much damage as possible, not just be ignorant and say well, itll kill it anyway. (I know you play with 3 other people, but if 4 of you were to play with the mindset of truly maximising your DPS, im sure you can do it faster. Min-maxing, Every little bit counts).
Other than MHFro and MH online, I have been playing MHP, MHP2, MH2, MHP2G Solo my entire life (i play with my cousin once in a while, but only to help him get gear).
With that said, Doing what is better is more important than oh every kind of attack will eventually kill it anyway, i ll just randomly spam whatever is in my inventory and he will die. That doesnt work, not in 2nd G. You need REAL and GOOD knowledge of what you are doing. I am not saying i learnt this knowledge from FaQs, as i have said, i have completed EVERY mission solo before referring to FaQs 6 months later.
About the Fatalis bit, Fatalis is indeed easier to kill in the downloaded quest because you have friends around with you. However, try soloing it with a bow or a HBG or whatever your favourite weapon is without bombs. You will NEVER accomplish that feat, why? because armor mode is in your way. That is why I say armor mode is important, and i find it very hard to believe your claims of best in europe and stuff when you ignore such a fundemental part of the game. Armor mode is VERY important, not something to be ignored. Also, about the gear bit: its obvious its very easy to solo a fight if you have good gear, but before you get those uber fatalis farmed gears, have you tried soloing a fatalis properly? (Crimson fata is easy to bow down with crimson fata armor, but its harder when you need to rely on other armor). Also, I only mentioned crimson and white fatalis because they are the only two monsters with an armor mode. Slaying a normal (black) fatalis with a bow is nothing great, its more of whether or not you can handle the boredom.
I believe what hebion meant when he does not save when he doesnt get what he wants from carves is when hes trying to get carves/rewards from elder dragons, as it saves more time to reset than to fight it all over again (assuming you are soloing).
Having played more than 5000 hours of MH, but yet being ignorant does not make you right. I have played around that amount too (maybe more, maybe less), I believe we both started playing Monster Hunter around the same time, When MH was first released; but like i have said, after doing some research, i found that things i have been doing havent been the best. You cannot claim that it is the best from experience alone, it is the best for you, but not ultimately the best for everyone.
SILENTKILLER
08-02-09, 21:32
Lol it actually works on 2nd G - G ranked stuff. Not on everything, that is correct, but most of em, like Elder Dragons. But before u reply to my clusts again ^^, i dont use Guns in 2nd G much, only on G ranked Fatalis when hes weakened, to kill him quickly. In 2nd G i mostly use duals, SnS or Longwords, sometimes bows or Great Swords.
I start every MH in the same way, cause its the most easiest way ( for me - u satisfied ? ). I build a Poison Battleaxe, upgrade it asap n play until the higher ranks with it. I take the armor which is in the chest, keep that until i made full Dodobrango armor, Dodobrango armor will be replaces by Dodobrango S, this one ill replace with Silver rathalos armor.
And m8, i downloaded 8* White Fatalis Quest, and honestly, i soloed it alone with Bow, no Bombs. Took a long time, but i did it.
If Hebion was talkin about ancient dragons, then not saving is a better option indeed. Especially in 2nd G, when youre after ancient rubies.
I say its the best cause i tried mostly every way, every monster with every weapon ( except Hammer n HH - told ya i hate em ), n if u dont think its the best for u, ok. Im sayin it in a neutral way, not as somethin u NEED to do.
You didnt answer me, are u european ?
EDIT : Im goin offline now, ill reply to ur posts tomorrow evening. Good Night
one thing has been bugging me, you say that great sword has the fastest block, when i play sns i find the block just as fast, in fact block is so responsieve that i can just tap R the second the wyvern hits me and il block it
i mean i know the animation for block on the greatsword is faster but that animation doesnt have to finish before you can block, or are we talking nano seconds or something?
SILENTKILLER
08-02-09, 21:36
one thing has been bugging me, you say that great sword has the fastest block, when i play sns i find the block just as fast, in fact block is so responsieve that i can just tap R the second the wyvern hits me and il block it
i mean i know the animation for block on the greatsword is faster but that animation doesnt have to finish before you can block, or are we talking nano seconds or something?
Who says GS has the fastest block ? Anyway, GS is very fast in blockin, it really has the fastest block. You can see it on BIG swords the best ( at least i do lol ). In the moment a wyvern hits u n u block with a GS, it instantly skips the animation n blocks.
but i find the block just as fast with sword and shield, either that or im just lucky with timings?
Onime-no-Enishi
08-02-09, 21:42
Lol it actually works on 2nd G - G ranked stuff. Not on everything, that is correct, but most of em, like Elder Dragons. But before u reply to my clusts again ^^, i dont use Guns in 2nd G much, only on G ranked Fatalis when hes weakened, to kill him quickly. In 2nd G i mostly use duals, SnS or Longwords, sometimes bows or Great Swords.
I start every MH in the same way, cause its the most easiest way ( for me - u satisfied ? ). I build a Poison Battleaxe, upgrade it asap n play until the higher ranks with it. I take the armor which is in the chest, keep that until i made full Dodobrango armor, Dodobrango armor will be replaces by Dodobrango S, this one ill replace with Silver rathalos armor.
And m8, i downloaded 8* White Fatalis Quest, and honestly, i soloed it alone with Bow, no Bombs. Took a long time, but i did it.
If Hebion was talkin about ancient dragons, then not saving is a better option indeed. Especially in 2nd G, when youre after ancient rubies.
I say its the best cause i tried mostly every way, every monster with every weapon ( except Hammer n HH - told ya i hate em ), n if u dont think its the best for u, ok. Im sayin it in a neutral way, not as somethin u NEED to do.
You didnt answer me, are u european ?
EDIT : Im goin offline now, ill reply to ur posts tomorrow evening. Good Night
lolol, sorry =P i did mention somewhere i am rather a perfectionist, so i take literal words abit too serious sometimes xD and yea, the mention of for me was sufficient enough for me to keep quiet xD
and about that question, nope, im asian.
EDIT: 8* white fata is easy, I did that pre-MHP2G too, and its alot easier now with g-rank weapons and armor. Try soloing G*** white fata downloadable and youll know what i mean =P and yea, Gnite =P
one thing has been bugging me, you say that great sword has the fastest block, when i play sns i find the block just as fast, in fact block is so responsieve that i can just tap R the second the wyvern hits me and il block it
i mean i know the animation for block on the greatsword is faster but that animation doesnt have to finish before you can block, or are we talking nano seconds or something?
Wait sorry, i need to rephrase that, i meant greatswords have the fastest block recovery @_@ (assuming you dont get blown away by a heavy hit). You recover from block instantaneously and you can sheath/attack/etc right away. The instant block Recovery is advantageous for the GS since in 2ndG, GS users usually only attack with an unsheath attack (there are times where they dont too, but nearly 85-99% ofall their attacks are unsheath hits thanks to Rajang Z).
EDIT: editted my original post to prevent misunderstanding @_@ sorry about that
oh ok, that i can see, just fastest block made it sound like there was a difference in the timing of the block
yes, i did mean the elder dragons, i the kind of person that finds it a pain to waste whetstones in a teostra over and over again (yes, im goddamn stringy).
and i meant 1k+ hours in mhf2, ive played the former mhs but i just dont sum it up, no idea how much i played the former ones.
Yes im european, from portugal.
The european event quests are easy, had to get myself a mhp2 to get jump teo (and i dont believe in custom quests).
nontheless i believe this is already deviating too much from the purpose of the topic, giving tips on dual tigrex (specifically on long sword, since that was what the op requested).
Lord_Dominion
11-02-09, 20:16
Well....guys....I raise my beer for you guys and give you cheers....becuase I havent been unable to kill a tigrex with non-blockable weapons without dying 2 or 3 times until now and I am a hammer user/hammer lover... so I am suppose to be able to take on everything in monster hunter with non-blockable weapons but until know it has been impossible for me. I have only had succes killing tigrexs with weapons that possed the block ability without dying or only dying once.
SILENTKILLER
11-02-09, 20:23
Well....guys....I raise my beer for you guys and give you cheers....becuase I havent been unable to kill a tigrex with non-blockable weapons without dying 2 or 3 times until now and I am a hammer user/hammer lover... so I am suppose to be able to take on everything in monster hunter with non-blockable weapons but until know it has been impossible for me. I have only had succes killing tigrexs with weapons that possed the block ability without dying or only dying once.
Duals are easy to handle, hammer takes time, also hunting horn takes time ^^ You just need to find the right tactic for you n for the monster ur fightin, then u can kill everythin ^^
Onime-no-Enishi
13-02-09, 19:19
Well....guys....I raise my beer for you guys and give you cheers....becuase I havent been unable to kill a tigrex with non-blockable weapons without dying 2 or 3 times until now and I am a hammer user/hammer lover... so I am suppose to be able to take on everything in monster hunter with non-blockable weapons but until know it has been impossible for me. I have only had succes killing tigrexs with weapons that possed the block ability without dying or only dying once.
haha i know what you mean about tigrex with non-blockable weapons, i used to have trouble with him when i just started out too (with non-bockable weapons i mean). Heres something that might help when using hammers:
Use a high raw damage weapon (Magnitude or DCO), stand by his tail after he charges and do a triple pound that is timed so that the third poud hits him as he is turning to face you =P. theres a specific timing for this and there are many opportunities to do this, just gotta practice =P (you usually flinch him, and if you dont, just roll to your right, you should be safe)
Thnxx for tyhe info at the beginning, I think I can kill it now Ive got TDS and full Blango S+10 dragon resistance with decorations, but arent you straying a bit? Youve started enormous arguments about what ammos the best, and what is the fastest block, and what is best against armour mode for a monster I havent even reached yet! I dont mean to be rude, but the things Ive looked at recently arent really helpful. As for the different weaponsa and ammo, everyone has a different playstyle (which is said on these forums too much) and everyone has their own opinions. If someone prefers clust and someone else prefers Thunder S, just accept that. It could work for both, and if it goes wrong for one of you the other can have the pleasure of saying I told you so. Can we go back to the original subject now? Just to humiliate myself, Ive only played MHF2 for about 344 hours. Its OK saying youve killed more wyverns than anyone else in Europe, but once you kill them the first time its easier to kill them repeatedly. I dont mind though, because everyone on this forum is obviously better than me, but that was the whole point of this forum.
Sorry if it sounded rude, but Im just suming up the whole thing, because I get a bit annoyed when I look at my forum to find information which is useless to me.
Onime-no-Enishi
14-02-09, 13:41
Thnxx for tyhe info at the beginning, I think I can kill it now Ive got TDS and full Blango S+10 dragon resistance with decorations, but arent you straying a bit? Youve started enormous arguments about what ammos the best, and what is the fastest block, and what is best against armour mode for a monster I havent even reached yet! I dont mean to be rude, but the things Ive looked at recently arent really helpful. As for the different weaponsa and ammo, everyone has a different playstyle (which is said on these forums too much) and everyone has their own opinions. If someone prefers clust and someone else prefers Thunder S, just accept that. It could work for both, and if it goes wrong for one of you the other can have the pleasure of saying I told you so. Can we go back to the original subject now? Just to humiliate myself, Ive only played MHF2 for about 344 hours. Its OK saying youve killed more wyverns than anyone else in Europe, but once you kill them the first time its easier to kill them repeatedly. I dont mind though, because everyone on this forum is obviously better than me, but that was the whole point of this forum.
Sorry if it sounded rude, but Im just suming up the whole thing, because I get a bit annoyed when I look at my forum to find information which is useless to me.
lol sorry about that, we did get off topic alot, but then again, these info will be helpful later =P (and we were arguing about ammo not on preference, but real mathematical DPS prowess, so i really cant let it go @_@)
Thnxx for tyhe info at the beginning, I think I can kill it now Ive got TDS and full Blango S+10 dragon resistance with decorations, but arent you straying a bit? Youve started enormous arguments about what ammos the best, and what is the fastest block, and what is best against armour mode for a monster I havent even reached yet! I dont mean to be rude, but the things Ive looked at recently arent really helpful. As for the different weaponsa and ammo, everyone has a different playstyle (which is said on these forums too much) and everyone has their own opinions. If someone prefers clust and someone else prefers Thunder S, just accept that. It could work for both, and if it goes wrong for one of you the other can have the pleasure of saying I told you so. Can we go back to the original subject now? Just to humiliate myself, Ive only played MHF2 for about 344 hours. Its OK saying youve killed more wyverns than anyone else in Europe, but once you kill them the first time its easier to kill them repeatedly. I dont mind though, because everyone on this forum is obviously better than me, but that was the whole point of this forum.
Sorry if it sounded rude, but Im just suming up the whole thing, because I get a bit annoyed when I look at my forum to find information which is useless to me.
dexter, about the play styles, no matter what play style you have, a longsword with 900 raw will always be better than one with 20 raw. (i know the difference in ammo isnt nearly that great, but its easier to say this way.
also, about everyone at this forum being better than you, that is relative... everyone has their rough times, or stuff they find harder. (in my case, i hate the randomness of a flashed teostra for example)
The info youll find more relevant for the question you asked has already been posted in the first two pages, from the end of that ahead this topic became broader and later strategies and preferences came to be discussed.
While the info of the white and crimson fatalis armor mode wont be really of any use for now, when you reach them, its a nice thing to know beforehand.
also, there is no shame in having few play hours, means you are new, so what? we all were someday.
the set you have is good in my opinion, try to learn how to dodge his roars, if you do, hell be a piece of cake, otherwise, just stay far enough for it not to hit/for you to have time to recover before he charges at you.
remember, even though you have dragon res doesnt mean hell be docile, hell still hurt when he hits.
i never, ever used ear plugs on a tigrex till the date, in fact, the first earplug + armor i had is the akantor which im currently using , i learnt to dodge it. a dragon res armor is far more useful imo, and the earplug+ most probably will make him have DEMONIC protection, which is quite the awesome thing to have in a dual tigrex quest...
Demonic Protection? Nah, Ive got an armour set with HGE, Ive simply put ONE protection jewell in a slot on my weapon. Yeh, dodging is good, but the roar can get so annoying. Im not disagreeing with you here, just pointing out that you can have HGE without demonic protection
i never, ever used ear plugs on a tigrex till the date, in fact, the first earplug + armor i had is the akantor which im currently using , i learnt to dodge it. a dragon res armor is far more useful imo, and the earplug+ most probably will make him have DEMONIC protection, which is quite the awesome thing to have in a dual tigrex quest...
Demonic Protection? Nah, Ive got an armour set with HGE, Ive simply put ONE protection jewell in a slot on my weapon. Yeh, dodging is good, but the roar can get so annoying. Im not disagreeing with you here, just pointing out that you can have HGE without demonic protection
im not sure if i made myself clear, so dont think anything special of what im saying now.
i really meant dodging the roar, with some timing you can effectively dodge the roar itself, and not stay down grabbing your ears, i usually do it without the dodge skill, though it is a pretty good skill too.
just for curiosity, an lr armor? which one?
I apologise for the incomplete info. thanks for correcting me ;)
I kinda have to admit im a bit sloppy about armors.
Edit: i found some armor sets lr with earplug +, but still curious about the one you were mentioning.
example:
Yian Garuga [MaxDef 68/piece, Max Lv17]
* Garuga Mask
* Garuga Mail
* Garuga Vambraces
* Garuga Tasset
* Garuga Greaves
Decora: Expert Jewel x2, Earplug Jewel x3
Weapon: -
Skills: High Grade Earplug, Reckless Abandon+1, Sharp Sword
pretty decent one too, you might wanna try it out.
for reference http://yashi.buhangin.com/temp/MHF2/Armor%20Combo%20Guide.htm
has some decent sets
Dont know what you mean when u say an lr armor. Dont know what one of them is, im pretty new to the game. My armour set is normal azure rathalos, maxed defence, gemmed up for attack up (large) and HGE. Its a pretty noobish armour, but seeing as I can avoid most attacks monsters throw at me, Im ok. I use it for its large attack bonus and HGE, if i need defence, ive nearly got full Death Stench S, missing the gauntlets, need one more tigrex fang+.
Cheers for the link, Ill check it out. Im stuck on the HR6 Shen Gao Ren, I havnt got any good Adrenaline sets, and I really cant be bothered farming for more materials just yet.
Dont know what you mean when u say an lr armor. Dont know what one of them is, im pretty new to the game. My armour set is normal azure rathalos, maxed defence, gemmed up for attack up (large) and HGE. Its a pretty noobish armour, but seeing as I can avoid most attacks monsters throw at me, Im ok. I use it for its large attack bonus and HGE, if i need defence, ive nearly got full Death Stench S, missing the gauntlets, need one more tigrex fang+.
Cheers for the link, Ill check it out. Im stuck on the HR6 Shen Gao Ren, I havnt got any good Adrenaline sets, and I really cant be bothered farming for more materials just yet.
Your armor is quite good, i spent most of the quest clearing time with a velociprey set then somwhere in the hr quests i started using a ceanataur U (couldnt be bothered to make armors, then i started noticing i had 5 pages full and only 2 rows left and i started changing my mind, that and female kirin set and akantor set looking quite good, kirin for obvious reasons, dark akantor cuz i just like the look)
Nowadays im collecting full sets for fun. rainbow color in butterfly S looks awesome =D.
by lr i mean low rank XD (materials from elder/low rank hall quests), making hr be high rank.
Also, shen gao ren elder? theres some easy to make sets with adrenaline +2 in the early game in the link.
One advice, dont go using up the hvy? stones (red ones) on armors early, save them for your main sets and when you have to spare start wasting, since they are the kind of item that seems to drop a lot when you have no need for them at all, and not to drop at all when you want them to. (i believe in murphys law)
heh heh, i know exactly what u mean :P lol. Its like it knows what u wants and makes it less likely that youll get the item. Ive been trying to get a monoblos heart for my red guild armour for ages now :P Ive gotten so many materials ive got nearly full Monodevil, so now ive got a set with adrenaline +2 and reckless abandon +1 or +2, i cant remember. Do you think Ill be able to kill shen with Heroics, Monodevil and Prominence Bow 3?
heh heh, i know exactly what u mean :P lol. Its like it knows what u wants and makes it less likely that youll get the item. Ive been trying to get a monoblos heart for my red guild armour for ages now :P Ive gotten so many materials ive got nearly full Monodevil, so now ive got a set with adrenaline +2 and reckless abandon +1 or +2, i cant remember. Do you think Ill be able to kill shen with Heroics, Monodevil and Prominence Bow 3?
sorry for the delay, i was out in the mountains slaying a tigrex (well, i was just snowboarding, its almost as exiting...)
to answer you, yes, that equipment is more than enough for him.
in a note about the monoblos heart, i got quite a lot not looking for them, and the most hilarious thing is they all droped when he hit his horns on the wall.
i bet having your heart fall hurts.
i think you ucan get the hearts from crabs aswell?
i think you ucan get the hearts from crabs aswell?
daymio hermitaur? those drop the blood horns if you break the shell and the heart if they are high rank i think, but the odds were lower if i recall correctly.
edit:
high rank daymio hermitaur:
Reward For Breaking:
Shell-
Blood Red Horn X1 (50%)
Hermitaur Carapace X1 (25%)
Hard Monster Bone X1 (15%)
Wyvern Skull Shell X1 (5%)
Monoblos Heart X1 (5%)
Claw-
Hermitaur Claw X1 (78%)
Hermitaur Carapace X1 (22%)
Monoblos
Reward For Breaking:
Horn-
Blood Red Horn X1 (100%)
Carve:
Body-[X4]
Monoblos Shell (55%)
Monoblos Spine (23%)
Blos Fang (20%)
Monoblos Heart (2%)
Tail-[X2]
Monoblos Shell (80%)
Large Monster Bone (20%)
Capture:
Monoblos Shell X1 (67%)
Monoblos Spine X1 (29%)
Monoblos Heart X1 (4%)
Drop:
Wyvern Tears (98%)
Monoblos Heart (2%)
White Monoblos:
Reward For Breaking:
Horn-
White Monoblos Horn X1 (100%)
Carve:
Body-[X4]
White Monoblos Shell (55%)
White Monoblos Spine (23%)
Blos Fang (20%)
Monoblos Heart (2%)
Tail-[X2]
White Monoblos Shell (80%)
Large Monster Bone (20%)
Capture:
White Monoblos Shell X1 (67%)
White Monoblos Spine X1 (29%)
Monoblos Heart X1 (4%)
Drop:
Wyvern Tears (98%)
Monoblos Heart (2%)
with that said, pick your poison.
daymios shell has a 5% chance but you have 3 times 2% chance or a 4% chance in case of capture with the monoblos.
personally i prefer the monoblos since i tend to get carried away and kill them before i play lego, but you should chose for yourself ;)
Doesnt really matter, my luck has turned in and I got one from a shiny :D
and of course its possible with the longsword but most likely he will never be able to do it, im not being arrogant or anything by saying this, its just facts and therefore it does have a point
well i have to reply to this,i first beat the dual tigrex (and 8* dual tigrex) quest-solo- with....u guessed it,a long sword!!! rath soul armor jewelled with psychic vision to keep track of them and the devil slicer(true devil slicer for the 8*,duh)....just gotta be patient,only strike when u know u can roll out quick enough, and WORK THE SPIRIT COMBO when ever its trapped/wallstuck/limping away....i currently use greatswords mainly,but am pretty damn expert with everything(cept hammers...im still good,just not great with them...) no false modesty here!!! my best would be duals,LS,GS,and bows....
well i have to reply to this,i first beat the dual tigrex (and 8* dual tigrex) quest-solo- with....u guessed it,a long sword!!! rath soul armor jewelled with psychic vision to keep track of them and the devil slicer(true devil slicer for the 8*,duh)....just gotta be patient,only strike when u know u can roll out quick enough, and WORK THE SPIRIT COMBO when ever its trapped/wallstuck/limping away....i currently use greatswords mainly,but am pretty damn expert with everything(cept hammers...im still good,just not great with them...) no false modesty here!!! my best would be duals,LS,GS,and bows....
eh? good for you, i never said you couldnt do it, i said the original poster couldnt, go brag else where
Uhhhh...wasn't bragging dude,like i said,no false modesty...
all i was doing was saying,"look,it is possible to do"
and if i can do it, why not the guy who posted originally??
LS are one of the easier weapons to kill tiggys with....IMO(my opinion only,ok?no need to freak out)
sorry to ruffle your feathers....
Onime-no-Enishi
13-03-09, 19:13
i somewhat agree that longswords is one of the easier weapons to fight a tigrex with,1 reason being that im very much used to using a longsword. It really depends on the player and the playstyle... in actuality, a weapon which can block would be alot easier against a tigrex, its just that once you get very much used to a longsword, you will know how to dodge, when to dodge, and when to attack, etc.
pretty much....and i find speed is more important against tigrex,and a longsword has the advantages of good movement speed as well as high AP....that said,these days i go straight for the Seigmund or Chrome Death Razor lol i have been helping my wife complete her Tigrex S set,have done that damn dual quest about 6 times to get enough Tigrex Claw+....she uses HH,and i have to say, Seigmund+Attack Up(Hi)=dead tiggy....lol
SILENTKILLER
15-03-09, 02:38
Diablos King Sword has more Raw than Siegmund no ? ........... ( or wasnt it available in Freedom 2 ? Just remember it in 2nd G .... )
Nope, Seigmund was the best GS in freedom 2.
SILENTKILLER
23-03-09, 01:06
Nope, Seigmund was the best GS in freedom 2.
Hmmm, then there was no DKS in Freedom 2 ^^ But the coolest GS is Shen Gao Ren Coin, i love the look :)