Help for the New MH Hunters

[Voltronic2]

Can any expeirienced Hunters give tips for the New Huters?

Sorry if Im not allowed to post this, i have never been in a forum before.

the game is MHF2.

Th reason for this is because me and my friends are having difficulties on the quest.
I also want to know where to get the materials for:

Full Giaprey Armour.

Bone katana wolf.

Im a Hunter rank one. that is why I need help.

I also need a very basic strategy for beating the Giadrome
I always get Killed.

I am watching youtube how to kill the giadrome.

And I can easily analyse how they fight but its not my style. I always have trouble on doing moves and combos, even the most basic looking ones are unexecutable for me.

[Sinister]

tho i dont like the route this takes (looks at leo) il be happy to help

Step 1: Find the weapon that works for you! Try em all through training soon enough one will spark your intrest more that others, or you will find one fits your style better, make the bone and iron paths of that weapon

Step 2: Green sharpness! You need this to fight wyverns, first fight the basic beasts (dromes and such) and mine with picaxes until your iron path weapon has green sharpness (not only is this level of sharpness needed to slice through wyvern scales but is also an idicator of the strength needed)

Step 3: Collect, harvest and farm! make sure when you can beat monsters like kut ku and other minor wyverns that you kill them lots of times, this familarises you with how the game works whist also getting you stuff you need for weapons and armour, mine on every mission and star building your farm.


This will set the ground to become a great hunter! Remember this game needs a high level of skill so invest time in learning all you can about a wyvern and its weaknesses, and as a personal recommendation i suggest the poison battle axe (sword and shield - iron pathway) sword and shield is good for beginners and the poison attribute makes up for the lack of damage output you give out due to a lack of skill.

[SILENTKILLER]

Can any expeirienced Hunters give tips for the New Huters?:?:

Sorry if Im not allowed to post this, i have never been in a forum before.

Sure, what do u need lol ?

[Voltronic2]

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[Voltronic2]

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[Electric Leo]

Hi Voltronic, welcome to our little Monster Hunter community :)

My first thought is, if you cant move or do combos, you are in trouble! Monster Hunters controls are not like most games and take a bit of getting used to. If you can, I recommend playing through the early gathering hall quests with a friend if you can. I found that the best way to get to grips with the controls. Dont worry too much if youre accidentally drinking your potions when youre trying to take things out of the chest at the beginning.

As for where to find what, thats something were looking at - how to get the information about the game. For now, and I have to give them credit they are EXCELLENT, the guys over at gameFAQs have done some great guides which should help you find what youre looking for - http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/psp/game/934395.html

It can be overwhelming so if you want to list specific items, we can try and tell you, but itll end up quicker if you look for yourself.

Hope that helps :)

[SILENTKILLER]

Giaprey armor materials ...... maybe .... Giaprey ?? LMAO

Bone Katana Shark.... just follow the bone katana series and check what u need there.

To kill Giadrome ( The most easiest monster of all time lol ), just attack and dodge.

[Electric Leo]

The main thing you need to bear in mind when fighting any monster is, they almost always attack the direction they are facing, and take time to rotate to face you. So if your attack doesnt take too long and it isnt facing you, its safe. If the monster is facing you head on, do not attack! Roll or hop or run to the side.

[SILENTKILLER]

The main thing you need to bear in mind when fighting any monster is, they almost always attack the direction they are facing, and take time to rotate to face you. So if your attack doesnt take too long and it isnt facing you, its safe. If the monster is facing you head on, do not attack! Roll or hop or run to the side.

Dude lol, its not somethin u cant teach , its somethin he must learn by himself.... and its normal not to hit it when its facin u...... And a giadrome ( LOL ! )..... perform a combo n roll, do that til its death..... same goes for every monster in the game, go behind it, perfom combos, dogde, over and over again. We cant tell u how to do it, u have to learn their movement and attacks, we all had to do that when we started. There is no easy way m8.

[Sinister]

hmm i have seen silent in a new light now...


Anyway, the thing about monster hunter is that every battle is like a Boss Battle in any other game, you know those battles where you actually need to cast stat buffs and such cause you know its going to be hard? Dont expect anything in this game to go down without a fight, a good weapon will only help so much and i dont recomend katana for new players the best advice i can give you is buckle up and enjoy the ride, there are quite a few battles that will last 35mins+ of pure fighting, and during that time one false move will mean a death so you have to be playing your best all the way through.

Oh and do training!!! Its like the best thing ever ever ever for increasing your skill not only against certain beasts or with certain weapons but the items they give you and the advice introduces you to the stratagies you will have to use.

[SILENTKILLER]

How come u see me in a new light ? lol

The best advice i can give all hunters, buy flashbugs and bomb materials, mix flashbombs, take 5 flashbombs, 10 flashbugs and 10 bomb materials with u on quest n u have 15 flashbombs. Easiest way to kill everything ( Except Naruga and some other weak monsters ). I did that later on the game ( 2nd G ) cause i was bored to attack them for 40mins lol.

Listen to Sinister, i never did the training ( too lazy ^^ ), but it helps u to learn how the monsters move and will force u to dodge a lot of times cause ur potions etc are limited ( you can find em on the map, but still limited ).

Also i recommend Shield and Sword at the beginning til 70% of the game, make the Poison Battleaxe ( + upgrades ), one of the best weapons in game and easy to kill monsters for newcomers.

[Voltronic2]

Its been a long time and Ive been downloading some quest to pracice on. And I dont usually use any dodge, so Im trying to get used to dodging.

My New Armor is:

Helm- Giaprey
Torso- Hunter
Gauntlets- Hunter
Waist- Hunter
Feet- Giaprey

Weapon- Iron Katana(LS) 480 raw pow.

Items:

Potion-10
Demon drug-5
Paintball-5
Whetstone-10
Well-done steak-8
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________


Please give me more improvements, and rate it

P.S. Im a Begginer

[SILENTKILLER]

Its been a long time and Ive been downloading some quest to pracice on. And I dont usually use any dodge, so Im trying to get used to dodging.

My New Armor is:

Helm- Giaprey
Torso- Hunter
Gauntlets- Hunter
Waist- Hunter
Feet- Giaprey

Weapon- Iron Katana(LS) 480 raw pow.

Items:

Potion-10
Demon drug-5
Paintball-5
Whetstone-10
Well-done steak-8
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________


Please give me more improvements, and rate it

P.S. Im a Begginer

U dont need well done steaks on lower difficulty. You will never need Demon Drug ( atleast i never used it ). Take Mega Potions with u. Focus on an armor and completely make it before u move on to other quests.

[Sinister]

you have demon drugs... and a katana... and you cant kill giadrome why? i suppose you dont know how to use the katana then, il give you a few tips

bear in mind than i might get these a bit wrong as the combos are instinctive rather than memorised

Over heard slice
(tri) -use this to start combos / slice tails etc.

Jab
O -weak as hell but little lag, i like to use it to irritate other hunters but thats about it

Back slice
(tri) + O + R - kinda good at getting out of danger but not great

Infinite combo
(tri) (tri) O repeat (note: if you think pulling off an infinite combo is a good thing, then think again, unless said beast is in a trap/glitching/taunting)

Soul slayer combo (note only useable when soul gauge is full)
R R R

Super soul slayer combo
its like the soul slayer combo but you throw in a fre (tri)s and O, this one is done by instict but i think its something like
R (tri) R (tri) R but i think you can throw in some other moves into it maybe even R (tri) (tri) O R (tri) (tri) O R but agian not too sure, dont really use katanas

How to play
Basically just run up to the side of a monster, best after its just done an attack or is distracted and pull off (tri) (tri) X or (tri) X to roll out of harms way at the end, do this until soul gauge is full then look for a big opening and pull off R R R X again to roll out of harms way after the combo tho against giadrome he will proberbly just hit you if he hasnt flinched but he is weak so just laugh or whatever. I suppose save the portable shock trap for when you have a full gauge so you can pull of super soul slayer combo but if you need that trap then your still not doing it right.

erm thats it really, you dont need to worry too much about sheathing your weapon but seeing as you can go from unseathed into combo so easily you might as well sheath afther every roll (provided you dont need to roll again) for that extra mobility.

Hope that helps, and silent will proberbly correct all the stuff i have got wrong.

Edit: Note to silent: Reason i see you in a new light is beacuse i figured you were some boring guy who knew everything and like loads of languages and stuff, but now i dont think that :)

[Voltronic2]

I finally killed it, the first time is captured it, the second id i killed it myself using a bum poke the upswing, then it says mission cleared

BTW, i got full giaprey, i need help, where can i find malachite ore quickly

[Voltronic2]

you have demon drugs... and a katana... and you cant kill giadrome why? i suppose you dont know how to use the katana then, il give you a few tips

bear in mind than i might get these a bit wrong as the combos are instinctive rather than memorised

Over heard slice
(tri) -use this to start combos / slice tails etc.

Jab
O -weak as hell but little lag, i like to use it to irritate other hunters but thats about it

Back slice
(tri) + O + R - kinda good at getting out of danger but not great

Infinite combo
(tri) (tri) O repeat (note: if you think pulling off an infinite combo is a good thing, then think again, unless said beast is in a trap/glitching/taunting)

Soul slayer combo (note only useable when soul gauge is full)
R R R

Super soul slayer combo
its like the soul slayer combo but you throw in a fre (tri)s and O, this one is done by instict but i think its something like
R (tri) R (tri) R but i think you can throw in some other moves into it maybe even R (tri) (tri) O R (tri) (tri) O R but agian not too sure, dont really use katanas

How to play
Basically just run up to the side of a monster, best after its just done an attack or is distracted and pull off (tri) (tri) X or (tri) X to roll out of harms way at the end, do this until soul gauge is full then look for a big opening and pull off R R R X again to roll out of harms way after the combo tho against giadrome he will proberbly just hit you if he hasnt flinched but he is weak so just laugh or whatever. I suppose save the portable shock trap for when you have a full gauge so you can pull of super soul slayer combo but if you need that trap then your still not doing it right.

erm thats it really, you dont need to worry too much about sheathing your weapon but seeing as you can go from unseathed into combo so easily you might as well sheath afther every roll (provided you dont need to roll again) for that extra mobility.

Hope that helps, and silent will proberbly correct all the stuff i have got wrong.

Edit: Note to silent: Reason i see you in a new light is beacuse i figured you were some boring guy who knew everything and like loads of languages and stuff, but now i dont think that :)

I now need help on Congalala, i am killing most dromes, even bulldrome, using my iron katana, but he is hard, cos he fats too much n i dunno how to make mega pots, and dunno how 2 make tranq and sonic bombs.

to make demon drugs, i just make catalyst with some honey.

[Sinister]

catalist and honey isnt demondrug, its catalyst and power seed

megas are honey and potions (tho you dont really need em this early)

sonic bombs are bomb material and screamer i think, ive never really needed to make em as you get loads free

tranq bombs are traquliser and bomb material tho again they should give you enough free in the supply box

Machalite ore is available from your farm and most mining points but is rare

To Beat Congalala:
This beast is my most hated enemy, not because he is powerful but because he is Poo element which is just rubbish.
Again a bit like giadrome in the fact that delays between attacks are quite low so its best to attack when he uses Body slam (run outside of its area effect first) Belly expand (dont attack the belly, go for the tail) and Exuasting fury swipes.

Getting hit by poo will make you unable to use potions or other healing items but they give you deodarant in the box so if you get hit more than twice then you stink (i like how this pun worked out)

Katana isnt too bad for this beast but again i suggest the Kut ku as kut ku is easy, relativley good armour and will teach you the basics better than fighting Congalala. That and you can train against Kut ku before you beat it so no excuses!

Note: Make the Kut ku hammer, its a relatively good hammer early on

[Voltronic2]

catalist and honey isnt demondrug, its catalyst and power seed

megas are honey and potions (tho you dont really need em this early)

sonic bombs are bomb material and screamer i think, ive never really needed to make em as you get loads free

tranq bombs are traquliser and bomb material tho again they should give you enough free in the supply box

Machalite ore is available from your farm and most mining points but is rare

To Beat Congalala:
This beast is my most hated enemy, not because he is powerful but because he is Poo element which is just rubbish.
Again a bit like giadrome in the fact that delays between attacks are quite low so its best to attack when he uses Body slam (run outside of its area effect first) Belly expand (dont attack the belly, go for the tail) and Exuasting fury swipes.

Getting hit by poo will make you unable to use potions or other healing items but they give you deodarant in the box so if you get hit more than twice then you stink (i like how this pun worked out)

Katana isnt too bad for this beast but again i suggest the Kut ku as kut ku is easy, relativley good armour and will teach you the basics better than fighting Congalala. That and you can train against Kut ku before you beat it so no excuses!

Note: Make the Kut ku hammer, its a relatively good hammer early on



I am not making Kut-ku Hammer, since I dont use hammers. Is there Kut-ku Long sword, coz when i go training quest LS i Slash Giaprey and he gets cut in half.

[Voltronic2]

Its been a long time and Ive been downloading some quest to pracice on. And I dont usually use any dodge, so Im trying to get used to dodging.

My New Armor is:

Helm- Giaprey
Torso- Giaprey
Gauntlets- Hunter
Waist- Giaprey
Feet- Giaprey

Weapon- Iron Katana(LS) 480 raw pow.

Items:

Potion-10
Demon drug-5
Paintball-5
Whetstone-10
Well-done steak-8
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________


Please give me more improvements, and rate it

P.S. Im a Begginer

U dont need well done steaks on lower difficulty. You will never need Demon Drug ( atleast i never used it ). Take Mega Potions with u. Focus on an armor and completely make it before u move on to other quests.

Thats my new armour, anyone know any sick looking armour, and where 2 get armour O(sphere) +

[linkj1993]

hey just got this game again today since i got a new psp 3000 i had it before but over used my psp and sold all the games but i got real far in this 1 eny way u cant realy teach skills but i can say start off on simple quests then work your way up like what i do i kill a lot of velacaprey then gather scales n hides and try creating all the armour then i work on swords and katanas (there my fave) then you start hunting yian kut-kut family and get some stronger armour and start creating other weapons asosiating that monster then rathian and los hope this helps and srry 4 spelling :p

[linkj1993]

Its been a long time and Ive been downloading some quest to pracice on. And I dont usually use any dodge, so Im trying to get used to dodging.

My New Armor is:

Helm- Giaprey
Torso- Giaprey
Gauntlets- Hunter
Waist- Giaprey
Feet- Giaprey

Weapon- Iron Katana(LS) 480 raw pow.

Items:

Potion-10
Demon drug-5
Paintball-5
Whetstone-10
Well-done steak-8
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________


Please give me more improvements, and rate it

P.S. Im a Begginer

U dont need well done steaks on lower difficulty. You will never need Demon Drug ( atleast i never used it ). Take Mega Potions with u. Focus on an armor and completely make it before u move on to other quests.

Thats my new armour, anyone know any sick looking armour, and where 2 get armour O(sphere) + i got armour spheres from a quest i downloaded called mother of battles u gotta kill 20 filyn or white cats nd its a bugger cos the black 1s still your stuff

[Voltronic2]

http://bp1.blogger.com/_I95f1DOwZAs/R_Mt4SmzXfI/AAAAAAAAAKs/_fZ1OfgDxZY/s1600-h/Rathalos-armor.jpg

Is this full rathalos?

[SILENTKILLER]

http://bp1.blogger.com/_I95f1DOwZAs/R_Mt4SmzXfI/AAAAAAAAAKs/_fZ1OfgDxZY/s1600-h/Rathalos-armor.jpg

Is this full rathalos?

Yes this is Rathalos armor.

[Sinister]

This game is not about choosing a weapon type and sticking to it the whole game, its about using the best weapon for the situation, you will have a hard time killing lao shan with a long sword for example. How are you expecting to use a long sword vs. a fast monster like a kirin? or a heavy armour wyvern like garuga or gravios??

Certain beasts are best fought with certain weapons, of course skill can easily replace that factor, however...

[Shiro]

How are you expecting to use a long sword vs. a fast monster like a kirin? or a heavy armour wyvern like garuga or gravios??
Actually, I find LS really good against Yian Garuga. Since its MHF2, hes not THAT rock-hard. Mind you, I learned by using Lances in MH PS2, so I started at the slow end and find LS to be quite nimble. It freaks me out that you cant block with them though, and I cant fight a Rath or a Tigrex with one. :X I think it all depends on your play style and the skill you develop with each weapon type.

When I first started, I remember how nerve-wracking it was to take on the first Slay 3 VelociPREY mission, but soon enough I was striding through fields of them without blinking an eye. MH really does have a steep learning curve, and just because weve been playing for years it does not make the game any easier for someone who is just starting.

Past advice about learning how Monsters move is good advice. With these monsters, it is usually best not to get hit. Absence of body is better than presence of mind. After a while, youll be able to tell what they are about to do just by the way they turn or shuffle about. This lets you get out of the way or block or whatever you need to do to avoid damage. If you can slay a monster without using more than a couple of Potions, then you are well on your way to mastering that creature.

Keep at it, and good luck!

[SILENTKILLER]

Actually, u can use every weapon vs every monster. You just need the best set up for every class, like an armor with ESP skill. However, the most easy and powerfull weapon is the bow. But like Sinister said, u cant fight all wyvern with the same equipment, later in the game it is possible indeed, but every player has his own favorite set ups n weapons, so just find ur own favorites instead of takin ours.

[dante213]

There right you know, i use a hammer for pretty much everything.

[Electric Leo]

However, the most easy and powerfull weapon is the bow.

Hmmm, Im not sure I agree with this. In the endgame when youve got the Akantor Bow then sure, or against some monster types that stop you hitting them for long periods of time, like Gravios or Khezu, then maybe, but the bows you get early in the game are not really well suited for solo play, I dont think, and definitely youll need the melee-class armour because youll be getting hit a lot.

[Sinister]

Yea the bow is great because of its manuverability but its attack power is aweful and solo its proberbly the worst weapon, Akantor and white fatalis bows are a bit of an exception but like leo said they are endgame anyway.

btw volt, are you playing with other people or by yourself? cause you have some items which are strange indeed for you to have.

[SILENTKILLER]

Do i have that much more skill than you ?? ( lol dont take me serious ^^ )

Ive completed the whole game with bows, its so easy to kill the wyverns. U just need to take different bows, power arrows n thats it. Akamu is a bit hard alone, but still easy again XD For example, there is no faster kill on a Fatalis ( any color ) than with 4 bows ( 8min ). In 2nd G its a bit different, the bows got weaker, but in Portable 2 its the best thing to use if u can handle it.

[Voltronic2]

Yea the bow is great because of its manuverability but its attack power is aweful and solo its proberbly the worst weapon, Akantor and white fatalis bows are a bit of an exception but like leo said they are endgame anyway.

btw volt, are you playing with other people or by yourself? cause you have some items which are strange indeed for you to have.



What do you mean?

[Sinister]

well traditionally speaking you would progress through beasts whist still learning the game mechanics, since combining is not really needed at the start of the game you would only discover it out of neccesity later on, say against a challanging quest, il use the guild four horns quest in mhf1 as an example for this, i learned more trying to do this one seemingly impossible quest then i ever did trying to kill a giadrome (tho it would have been velocidrome back then) so for you to have demon drugs just struck me as odd unless someone told you how to make them but proberbly someone only slightly better than you ruling out finding that information on the net unless specifically searching for it which as i mentioned would be unusual.

[Voltronic2]

well traditionally speaking you would progress through beasts whist still learning the game mechanics, since combining is not really needed at the start of the game you would only discover it out of neccesity later on, say against a challanging quest, il use the guild four horns quest in mhf1 as an example for this, i learned more trying to do this one seemingly impossible quest then i ever did trying to kill a giadrome (tho it would have been velocidrome back then) so for you to have demon drugs just struck me as odd unless someone told you how to make them but proberbly someone only slightly better than you ruling out finding that information on the net unless specifically searching for it which as i mentioned would be unusual.

Someone suggested to look at gamespot, so i did, i looked at combintation list.

[Hebion]

As for killing Giadrome, Gendrome, Iodrome, Velocidrome, Bulldrome, the best way to do this is to stand behind them, and as close as you can (dont try this on most wyverns or theyll whack you), and attack, when they turn to atack you just roll to the side theyre turning and theyll end up hitting the air and you hitting their backs ;)

As for most wyverns youll want to stand a bit further away since the tail whips hurt quite a bit in the beginning, just cut it off (on those you can) or discover the safest spot (like yian kut kus right leg if Im not mistaken)

I beg to disagree with bow being the easiest weapon. The reason being, each person has his/her own personal afinities.
To me personally nothing beats a good pair of duals. To others nothing better than the good old bunker-like spear.
And i also disagree to the bow being a bad weapon in the beginning of the game.
If you get hit a lot with a bow then you are just not using it correctly. It is a much more nimble weapon than the bowgun and it is still ranged.
The damage is not as bad as you make it seem, consider the thought that with a bow you can basically hit a wyvern non-stop while melee weapons require you to defend or roll to dodge much more.

The best advice about this problem is to do the training missions if you are completely new to mh, or if you only played the former versions of the game and still havent experienced the newer equipment.

If you cant be bothered just grab the try out weapons they give you and take some easy mission, like a gathering to go try it out on some herbies.

Personally Id advise you to get some friends, or ask someone at kai to play with you, the best way to get the hang of a weapon OR a specific monster is actually using the weapon/fighting the monster.
I talk by experience, youtube and videos did give me a bit of help, but nothing teaches you better than getting beaten up, thats how you end up memorizing their patterns and developing that its turning slowly, its gonna spit...yawn... sense.
Though I, as well as most of the people here Im sure, am happy to answer any questions i can, you should keep in mind, this is a game that requires practice over theory, and in which instinct plays a large role.
And the most important aspect of playing with friends, its a hell lot more fun! ;) kill big stuff together, get killed by big stuff together.

As has been previously stated, gamefaqs is a reliable source of information. Most of the answers to, where do i get this item, questions can be found there.
There are also mh wikis with some strategies, which are found at the first page of google and some good reference sites as reign of rathalos (prety decent calculators) might help you decide on what weapon to take where.
note that there are an infinity of other good sites to get good info from.

About X weapon for Y monster.
its not a mater of how far into the game you are, in fact, if you plan on using a type, or certain types of weapons, Id encourage you to stick to those types from the beginning till the time you decide to change, since practice makes perfect you know? ;)
(with this i am in no way discouraging you to make and try out other weapons, i myself like to vary once in a while, and as such i have at least one of every kind of weapon, just for the kicks you know? ;), also having different sets of weapons makes it harder for you to get bored from always doing the same thing, so i still encourage you to stray from your path and make some side weapons whenever you have the materials and cash to spare. )

With all of this i could just resume to, important is to play for fun, everything else will come with the time.
If any new hunters need some help Ill be glad to give a hand, Im usually at kai when i play, same nick, just send me a message and Ill help you out if i can.
My apologies for the bad structuring of the text, i just typed as i thought so i deleted and rewrote too much, ending up with this strange mesh of text.

[Electric Leo]

Actually, Ive decided that the best weapon for the whole game is actually the Great Sword.

Next week its the Dual Swords!

[Sinister]

id like to see you fight fatalis with a great sword :p

[Hebion]

id like to see you fight fatalis with a great sword :p
Yeah, youre right. Hes going to die a lot when that fatalis comes running after him in a low rank quest while hes carrying a wyvern egg.

but now really.

While ranged is certainly safer for the fatalis variations, It can, and has been done (in fact hes been beaten up with every weapon there is), its a matter of practice (a hell lot of it).
The great sword is probably the weapon with the greatest instant damage output, though its not the most nimble of them all it does more than compensate for it in other areas, and even speed itself is not as bad as it may sound if you get used to it.
Its an easy weapon to start and a great one to master, specially if you can master the charge move.

Electric, as has been stated before, even if you are to chose a weapon as your main, which by itself is not a bad thing, dont forget to try out new ones, as some awards and titles can only be obtained through making other weapons, and it gives you a new objective and a way to vary once in a while.

Also, assuming hes a newbie hell learn on his own before he does reach fatalis.
unless he starts taking custom quests, which by the way, most of them suck a lot, (free items just ruin the game, really, if you play it and you like it, youll understand what i mean)

[Dexter]

This game is not about choosing a weapon type and sticking to it the whole game, its about using the best weapon for the situation, you will have a hard time killing lao shan with a long sword for example. How are you expecting to use a long sword vs. a fast monster like a kirin? or a heavy armour wyvern like garuga or gravios??

Certain beasts are best fought with certain weapons, of course skill can easily replace that factor, however... Youre being a bit stereotypical Since I got MHF2 (about a year and a half ago) Ive used nothing but LS. Ive completed all 3 of the things you said I couldnt with ease

[Dexter]

The LS is best for me. Most of the other forum users hate them because theyre too weak they cant block or theyre too slow SnS/DS users).:mad: I can answer these. 1. It may be too weak, but they can get amazingly strong the longer you stick with them, and have a high elemental value. Plus, why do you think they made the spirit gauge? For that exact reason.:evil: 2. They cant blobk, but the more skilled you become the better you are at dodging attacks and the better you get at judging when to dodge. 3. If you think theyre too slow, why the hell do you use hammers all the time?

Lol this was just my one chance to rage at the world. Nothing personal- I actually like hammers a lot!:p