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Carbonox_Ratchet
28-12-09, 23:00
Hai, I got Street Fighter IV (in a nifty Ryu slip case if I do say so myself) as a Chrimbo pressie from my cousin so I guess it's a game I'm going to have to give some welly in.
First thing's first: I suck at Street Fighter. Let's not beat around the bush here. I have SFII: Turbo HD Remix and just could not do anything in it. Such a technical fighter goes way above my head. Something like Marvel vs. Capcom is a lot easier for me I find.
So really, I need some tips and advice in how to get in to SFIV. I really want to give it a shot as opposed to just trying it for a bit and then stopping. Fair enough the next couple of months are going to be packed with games, but I see Street Fighter IV potentially being one of my main go-to games in-between the releases that can be done in a week or two. A filler if you will.
So fire away and gimme some lurrrrrrve.
Well, I'm new to it myself, I've only gained interest after my somewhat crushing defeat by the hands of Charmed at the Capcom Xmas party, I've even invested in a fight stick, aheh...
But anyway, my advice would be to find a character you like and stick with them, since it's mandatory to complete the game with characters to unlock new ones, it should be fast to find one to match your play style, most common choices I see online are Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Guile and Chun Li.
Once you have a favourite, start learning their moves, the trials cover their execution pretty well, even if you get stuck part way, as long as you have the core moves covered, you should be fine, but remember, don't entirely dismiss basic punches and kicks, these can stop certian moves dead in their tracks, also practice blocking, I've beat opponents simply because they forgot to block the entire match.
Once you've done Arcade mode several times, I recommend jumping straight into the online mode, I make no promises, you will lose, however, watch what they do, even if you have no interest in the character they are playing, how they move and what they do in certain situations can help you in the future, mirror matches can be highly educational.
You should notice that you're getting better over time, even if you don't win, you'll notice that at least you're wearing down their gauge more and able to pull off moves in a heartbeat for the right occasion, and you may even start pulling tricks that you've seen others do.
Also, start looking up videos on YouTube and suchlike that detail cancelling and other tactics people are using, preferably ones with the pad visible on the screen.
Zombiebrian
29-12-09, 20:27
Hai, I got Street Fighter IV (in a nifty Ryu slip case if I do say so myself) as a Chrimbo pressie from my cousin so I guess it's a game I'm going to have to give some welly in.
First thing's first: I suck at Street Fighter. Let's not beat around the bush here. I have SFII: Turbo HD Remix and just could not do anything in it. Such a technical fighter goes way above my head. Something like Marvel vs. Capcom is a lot easier for me I find.
So really, I need some tips and advice in how to get in to SFIV. I really want to give it a shot as opposed to just trying it for a bit and then stopping. Fair enough the next couple of months are going to be packed with games, but I see Street Fighter IV potentially being one of my main go-to games in-between the releases that can be done in a week or two. A filler if you will.
So fire away and gimme some lurrrrrrve.
Hiya and welcome to street fighter, Joining the community can be tough luckily there are some websites that are designed as anti elitist, Eventhubs.com being my personal fav.
Other sites such as shoryuken.com can be very snobby and user unfriendly for any newcomer so I suggest avoiding it until you are further into it. :rolleyes:
As for how to get good at the game this is why i suggest a community approach to it playing vs facless people online wont help you and playing vs the cpu will help you even less (seth will make you quit) By joining a community such as eventhubs.com you can spar with members who are up for it, from this you will get advice and idea's on how to get better.
on a solo level you can go to eventhubs and srk and cut and paste combos, blockstrings and match-ups read through these and practise the bnb combos till you have a good grasp of em. Then take it online to champs mode and put theory into action.
On picking a main i suggest going around the board until you find the char you enjoy using the most or feel most comfortable with. Dont take advice on this from other people cause its a choice that only you can make and however they sugar coat it there opinion on things will undermine there advice.
Carbonox_Ratchet
23-01-10, 00:12
Sorry for the late feedback but I put an hour in to it earlier today.
For my first ever SFIV match, I picked a random character who turned out to be E. Honda. Let's just say I gave up by the third match (against Rufus) on Normal. I also had NO idea how to pull off an Ultra, despite looking at the control setup.
I then moved on to Ryu and practised with him a tad in the Training mode. I then went in to Arcade mode and - unfortunately - started on "Easiest" setting. This is where my noobness set in; I lost two matches (as in having to continue afterwards) but was able to beat it with Ryu. It also took me a long time to learn his Ultra with efficiency but nailed it in the end.
Funnily enough, I felt so happy and satisfied that I beat Arcade mode with Ryu. It took me two tries to beat Seth as well. Irrelevant that it was on the easiest setting going, I felt proud, haha. I unlocked Sakura too.
Next, I'll either try more characters to find my specialism or just stick with Ryu and work my way through other difficulties.
Either way, I had a lot of fun despite silly hurdles that would probably make you pros laugh. D:
Fortunately, Ken, Dan, Akuma, Gouken and Sakura are known as "Shoto clones", in that they have very similar moves with variations, once you've gotten used to Ryu, their basic moves should be familiar to you.
I started out with Ryu, moved on to Dan, now I play Akuma, the core moves remained the same so Akuma felt like an expansion since he could do more.
Carbonox_Ratchet
23-01-10, 12:44
I have this strange draw to Crimson Viper for some reason. Going by many of the videos I've seen, she looks like quite a fun character with some decent attacks. I'll definitely try her out too.
well seeing as this is a thread for NOOOOBS! :D
i'd say to use the biggest NOOOOOB character....which is clearly sagat
Carbonox_Ratchet
23-01-10, 16:44
Tried Sagat and rinsed through Arcade mode pretty easily, scoring some Perfects too. :P Definitely a good and powerful character.
I beat Arcade with Dhalsim as well and while he's fun and has good reach, I just can't see much of a use for him. His Ultra isn't appealing either.
Other characters I tried included Crimson Viper (decent but not good enough for me), M. Bison (far too agile and I still can't figure out how to pull off his Ultra), Ken (pretty much the same as Ryu but for me, his Ultra is better; definitely a character to consider for myself), and Chun-Li (can't really grasp her properly).
I think I'll stick with Ryu, Ken and Sagat for now. I've been doing pretty well on the Challenge modes as well, given my inexperience.
I definitely think Street Fighter is starting to win me over.
I beat Arcade with Dhalsim as well and while he's fun and has good reach, I just can't see much of a use for him. His Ultra isn't appealing either.
Which made it a pretty big surprise when people discovered his potential. ;)
The ultra, combined with a teleport becomes nearly unblockable, and players who know what button corresponds to what attack can stop your every move dead in it's tracks.
Inexperience should never be used as an excuse for not being good!
Practice harder!
The charge characters like M.Bison (named Dictator from here on out), Chun-li, Guile, etc... require you to stop flicking moves like random fireballs or flying punches, and start thinking about where your opponent's going to be when you execute your move.
To do their specials and ultra's, you have to "charge" their moves as it were, by holding the movement stick back or down (Tip: Most people charge by pressing back+down, so you're blocking low hits while charging) for a couple of seconds, then doing the reversed motion (E.G, forward / up) and the attack button.
In case of the ultra's, it's as simple as charging and pressing forward, then quickly tapping back and forward again, before using your Triple-kick or Triple Punch button.
If you have the desire to become good at it, keep playing and practicing!
Dante2014 hasn't been into this game for to long, and he's definitely putting pressure on moi with his raging Akuma.
It's all a matter of your devotion!
Like a certain Street Fighter character says after a famous martial artist:
"Don't think, feel it!"
Carbonox_Ratchet
24-01-10, 14:35
Thanks, Jarlino. I see the potential with Dhalsim, especially with his unique reach, but me being a noob fails to bring out the real deal with him. I'm just not keen on his Ultra though.
Ah, I was thinking that it was something to do with Triangle and Circle but I assume that's the Focus move. I just couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do these charge-based Ultra's. :P I'll give it a shot then as I'm going to go through Arcade with M.Bison and Chun-Li.
Carbonox_Ratchet
25-01-10, 19:33
Latest update:
Beat the game on Normal with Sagat. Nothing too strenuous but I did have to "continue" a couple of times.
Unlocked Akuma too who I think is quite good despite his low defence. I want to test out his Ultra in Training mode at some point.
Beat the game on Hardest setting with Zangief. For a noob such as myself, I see this as quite an accomplishment. :P
did u spam the lariat? if not why not?
when i get a stick working on ps3 ill come hurt if u like?
Carbonox_Ratchet
25-01-10, 20:20
Unfortunately, haha. I saw the cheap and effective usage of it (if the opponent blocks the first direct hit, they usually still get hurt by the second rotation). :P Still, I wouldn't consider myself adept until I can beat Hardest with real skill. I found Normal still troubling but did it via Bison/Sagat.
Yeah, I could deal with some beating online; give me an opportunity to see how others fight and see how I can adapt and change my skills accordingly.
Unfortunately, haha. I saw the cheap and effective usage of it (if the opponent blocks the first direct hit, they usually still get hurt by the second rotation). :P Still, I wouldn't consider myself adept until I can beat Hardest with real skill. I found Normal still troubling but did it via Bison/Sagat.
Yeah, I could deal with some beating online; give me an opportunity to see how others fight and see how I can adapt and change my skills accordingly.
i shall teach u combos grasshopper :chin:
Carbonox_Ratchet
03-02-10, 17:22
I've been playing online now and while I don't claim to be good, or even be good, I can NOT take any more of this horrendously put-together matchmaking system. It's a nightmare to find a player, let alone get in a match if the idiot doesn't have any interesting in participating (why make a lobby?). Connection issues on their end and quitters who disappear because they lost overall makes online gaming in Street Fighter IV a god damn annoying pain in the neck.
Well, I didn't try yet the online mode of my fighting games but I have to say that I'm not good at all in any Fighting Games too lol but I love playing this genre of video games.
Usually I play against my young brother who generally wins easily. Though sometimes, I prefer when I lose because he didn't get angry as he did when I won 1 match / I don't know how many match he won before xD
When we played SFIV the first time, round were nearly equals, because he wasn't used to play that game :p (He beat me all the time in SCIV and now I hardly won aigainst him in BR3 xD)
I remember the first time when i tried playing a SF game online, was shaking like crazy! I was under the impression that i really needed to win and show what i could do, hence the nervous shaking :P
I highly recommend it though, it's great fun.
If you have trouble finding players, have you tried searching for players in forums etc?
Also, I sometimes host a livestream where we just gather as many people as we can and play. I can only stream my matches, but the point is getting people together so that everyone can find players.
We get players from different skill level as well, so it shouldn't be that difficult to find a suitable match.
Most players are located in Europe (Swedish), so the connections should be decent. I think we had a US player once, but that's about it.
If nothing else, you can chat, share strategies and watch some matches :D
I've been playing online now and while I don't claim to be good, or even be good, I can NOT take any more of this horrendously put-together matchmaking system. It's a nightmare to find a player, let alone get in a match if the idiot doesn't have any interesting in participating (why make a lobby?). Connection issues on their end and quitters who disappear because they lost overall makes online gaming in Street Fighter IV a god damn annoying pain in the neck.
Why go online, find somone that pobably has the same skills, like a real street fighter :p
SHIN_GOUKEN
12-02-10, 15:44
Why go online, find somone that pobably has the same skills, like a real street fighter :p
Nicely said lol, thats what id do