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Tenebra
12-11-08, 10:29
Lets talk about next years MotoGP game, we really want to hear your opinions and suggestions for next edition. Let us know what features youd like to see in MotoGP 09. Itd be very useful if you could list them in 3 categories:

* Top priority

* Very important

* Would be nice to have

Hayden69Stoner27
12-11-08, 14:42
Tyre Life - I only ever use soft tyres cos of better grip. Putting tyre life in would make me sacrifice a bit of grip at the start so I could go the distance and sliding and too hard of braking will wear tyres down - Top Priority

Bike Damage - When you crash its back on the bike and continue. have your mistakes punished. - Very Important

Flags - I can overtake under yellow flags and nothing happens put some penalties in. - Would Be Nice To Have

Change In Weather - eg the race started dry and overcast but starts raining part way through and have to change bikes or decide whether to start on a wet bike. tyre life would then come in to play if it doesnt rain and your on wet tyres. - Would Be Nice To Have

Showboating -Button combos for showboating when crossing the line stand up wheelies etc. - Would Be Nice To Have

Adjust AI - The ai is too aggressive especially on champion level. its hard enough trying to win but gets annoying when they punt you into the gravel at every corner. They also can turn tighter and faster even when I have suspension and turning speed fully on. - Top Priority

Achievements - This years achievements were a bit easy like winning with hayden at laguna although im never gunna get legend or sim master and no one can get the achievement for doing all the challenges cos i never got it and all 50 boxes are ticked. - Top Priority

Release Date - This years game was released on the last weekend of the season and by then the game was out of date. Release it earlier in the season. - Very Important

Hope you like some of the ideas!

WhoDaFunk
12-11-08, 14:49
ok no offense to anyone here but it seems like we have been through this exercise in futility before on 08 everyone posted a million things that they wanted on the game . Some ideas were good , others were just silly but there was a great deal of input from everyone and as it turns out , from the hundreds of suggestions the only one that was taken and used was the 125 and 250 cc, and to tell you the truth , Im naot sure it wasnt in there all ready. Capcom-Unity has soo many suggestions going back over a year that i wouldnt even know where to begin. Ive got a better idea why dont you all scour through all of those ideas and let us know what is possible. That would probably save some time and relive everyone of a ton of heartburn

Tenebra
12-11-08, 15:27
Hi WhoDaFunk, Im actually compiling a document for the producers - be positive, I obviously cant promise anything but I wouldnt have asked if we werent interested ;)

Please, guys, list your suggestions as top priority, important and nice to have, that will help us prioritising what you think its most important.

aernouts
12-11-08, 16:48
:lol: :lol: hehe i cant believe it ... very nice post :lol:

well i do have a few suggestions though :s

1. good controller support (as its useless in 08)
2. no more stuttering/drop in FPS even if you have a good system
3. no more sound isuues
4. no more lagging
5. good online/multiplayer
6. Lan option
7. good graphics/DX10 support


and last but not least .......

8. good support from capcom/milestone if you do have a SLIGHT problem


is this possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


*EDIT* i forgot to mention paying for a game like this once is enough for me so.... no need for a 09 version

flyinbriyin
12-11-08, 17:06
I really hope this information gets used. I am an avid MotoGP, World Superbike, AMA Superbike and any other form of motorcycle racing fan. Here are my suggestions.

I echo several from Hayden69Stoner27.

Definitely keep the 125 and 250cc classes. Those are a great addition.

We need to be able to wheelie across the finish line and do some light stunts, but keep the focus on the racing.

PODIUM chanpagne parties. Have the podium finishers on the podium after the race spraying champagne.

FLAGS ARE A MUST! How about like in real life have the flags actually being waved around the track and ESPECIALLY as you cross the finish line. Id love to see a guy out there waving the green flag, the red flag, the half-way flag, the white flag on the penultimate lap and wouldnt it be nice to see a guy out there waving the checkered flag at the end of the race?

COMMENTATORS. Many games like FIFA 09, Madden 09, NHL 09 etc... have the actual commentators voices. Not necessarily throughout the game but at the beginning and end of the races. I watch MotoGP on the SPEED channel here in the USA, and I can hear their voices now. Or get the guys from EUROsport.... but commentators would be a great addition.

IMPROVED DAMAGE on crashing. Id love to see wicked high-sides a massive pile-up here and there and the human forms being thrown around like ragdolls. Just like it is in real life. Wed like to see the bikes come apart with debris flying around on a bad accident. You need to have more realistic crashes.

Keep the hands and feet moving during shifting and braking that is a must.

Improvement on bike setup for your own bike. Rather than moving a slider from - to +. Let us set our own gearing and wheelbases like THQ did in Motogp 07. I do like being able to select our tires, hard, soft, medium wet, dry etc. So keep that.

And lastly, when the PC game is released MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PLAY IT! I look forward to a new MotoGP game every time one comes out. CAPCOMs MotoGP 08 has been a let down. I couldnt run it for 2 weeks. After several attempts to contact tech support at Capcom, I just kept getting dragged along with no results. The only reason I can even run the game, is because of guys on this forum site that did all the troubleshooting. I have to disable all sounds in order for the game to run so, I have no sound which renders the game useless. A COMPLETE LET DOWN. So, get the bugs worked out of the game in all versions (Europe and USA) before releasing the game. By the way, we are all still waiting for a patch or something to fix this annoying problem of no sound!

Tenebra
12-11-08, 17:16
Thanks for the feedback so far, please keep it coming.

May I ask you guys to please rank the importance, for instance

Top Priority
1) .....
2) .....
3) .....

Very Important
1) .....
2) .....
3) .....

Would be nice to have
1) .....
2) .....
3) .....

Im not trying to be pedantic, its because with such feature ranking I can go back to the developers and say xx amount of players this that these x, y and z features are top priority (hence will be taken into very serious consideration for inclusion), xx amount of players think that features a, b and c are very important (so still considered seriously), while features d, e and g would be nice if you can fit them in.

If I dont submit feeback in this form you might end up with features that you dont consider fundamental included and the more important ones not in. We dont want that, do we ;)

ukacredsmall6
12-11-08, 21:07
Motogp 09

Top priority
1. A game that does not need patched before it s released, did no-one at capcom try to install the game in another directory other than the default one?
2. Joystick control
3. All developers working on the game to be given a copy of Motogp 3
4. When in online game, the ability to "chat" is a benefit when in lobby deciding which track next.
5. ability to contact someone when there is a problem with game (customer service for the gaming community non-existent)(had to solve problem with SBK08 myself as no reply from companies involved)



Very important
1. lan and ip connection for private game rooms
2. customization of your own machine (especially when racing online)




not a lot to ask for, at the moment I am not buying Motogp 08, due to my experiences with Motogp 07 and SBK08, and have went back to Motogp 3 for some enjoyment

flyinbriyin
12-11-08, 21:40
Motogp 09

Top priority
1. A game that does not need patched before it s released, did no-one at capcom try to install the game in another directory other than the default one?
2. Joystick control
3. All developers working on the game to be given a copy of Motogp 3
4. When in online game, the ability to "chat" is a benefit when in lobby deciding which track next.
5. ability to contact someone when there is a problem with game (customer service for the gaming community non-existent)(had to solve problem with SBK08 myself as no reply from companies involved)

Very important
1. lan and ip connection for private game rooms
2. customization of your own machine (especially when racing online)

not a lot to ask for, at the moment I am not buying Motogp 08, due to my experiences with Motogp 07 and SBK08, and have went back to Motogp 3 for some enjoyment


Let me ask you ukacredsmall6, how did you get SBK 08 to run? I get an error that says Failed to initialize DirectX everytime I try to play it. Did you have the same problem? If so, how did you get it to work? I cannot figure it out for the life of me.

Mush xx
12-11-08, 21:58
Hi Tenebra,

we have a whole thread here (http://www.xboxliveaddicts.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=32185).

d_man74
13-11-08, 03:24
Hi id just like to say that motogp 08 is the best version of played since motogp 3 (ps2). However there is still room for much needed improvements. I take my motogp very seriously and would like to see the following features in motogp 09:


Top Priority
1) Legends mode - this is a feature that has been missing from the franchise for some time now. Racing as or against legends such as Doohan, Kato (on a movistar honda:) ) Schwantz etc would breathe new life into the franchise.
2)Team Manager mode - well this falls under the would be nice to have category as well..... but wouldnt it be nice to have a mode where you become team manager, sign on a new rider, seal a sponsorship deal and run your own team?????
3)Better, smoother graphics - looks a bit like a ps2 game. Indianapolis in particular looks a bit pixelated. Bikes look sexy Though!
4)Replay Saves - hmmm what ever happened to the save replay function? Its a real shame that this was left out because the replays look very good and and times looks as if youre watching the real thing.
5)Photo mode - just face it, orbit mode is pointless without a take picture button. The bikes look really nice in orbit mode but would look even nicer in a photo album.

I dont see any reason why these features cant make it on the ps3 version of motogp 09. If Konami can put all that goodness onto a blu ray disc with MGS4 and Polyphany with GT5 then I dont see why Milestone/Capcom cant do it.

Very Important
1)Track side activities/details - trackside seems a little dull without air horns, fireworks etc. And come on, lol 2d crowds are so last generation. We need to see some 3d people that actually move. What about the pits, pit crews etc.
2)Offline Multiplayer - unless you can sort out a strong online mode then I strongly recommend that you throw in an offline multiplayer mode. And besides, not every has an internet connection.
3)Engine sounds - although they are the most realistic and accurate engine sounds ive heard in any motogp game......EVER, its still a lil iffy. Its also very awrkward that the revs on the 125/250 cc bikes stay the same even though ive released the throttle button. And why oh why does the bikes reach the rev limiter so soooon? Im there with the rev limiter on half way down the backstraight at Shanghai looool. SORT THE SOUNDS OUT!!!
4)Changing weather effects - this would add more excitement to the racing experience. Imagine starting a dry race then 3/4 way through it started to rain. Do you risk staying out in an attempt to stay ahead of the field or do you come in to change tires?
5)Voice chat on the ps3 version

Would be nice to have
1)1080i/p - 1080 simply looks better than 720....FULL STOP!
2)In Game rider bio/Team & bike info - It would be nice to know the backgrounds/story behind the teams.
3)A utility to set at least 2 of your favourite view points when racing - there are many viewpoints to choose from, but do you know how frustrating it is to switch between all of them while youre racing? An option to stick with the 3rd person and a cockpit view would do just fine.
4)Fuel consumption/Tire life

These additions should help motogp 09 to gain better reviews and at the same time, please us gamers
:) :)

Caspian Rho
13-11-08, 08:26
Unity has the most ideas anywhere. They didnt take anything on board for 08 (other than 125s & 250s) so slim for 09. And I appreciate the mentaliti Tenebra, but a year of posting on Unity didnt change or make GP08 a better game!

Top Priority
1) Milestone to be handed their P45s
2) Capcom to actually do research of a good racing game, GP500, Forz2 or whatever
3) As much distance from SBK as humanly possible

Very Important
1) Online championships............... seriously how bad is it that theyre not there now, disgusting!!
2) Laptimes to be posted on the leaderboards from anywhere in the game and flags or red time to stop the cheats
3) online,online,online,online FIXED

Would be nice to have
1) Not had to have had the abomination of GP08
2) bike editor
3) proper developing time!

Mextor
13-11-08, 09:22
Hi Tenebra,

we have a whole thread here (http://www.xboxliveaddicts.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=32185).

dam you mush you beat me to it :lol:

Top Priority
1) an online game that is twice as good as Moto GP 07, after 08 we deserve it.
2) for Capcom to listen to us or no one will buy the game until the demo comes out.
3) the ability to change the bikes settings online

Very Important
1) a demo to come out before the game its self is released, pretty much everyone else in the industry does why cant you
2) the ability to set times in any room, ranked, tt, single player it doesnt matter.
3) sort out the tracks, some of them are not wide enough and some are just some wrong its not funny, the Sachsenring is a prime example, just before you go down the waterfall (the fast down hill section just before the second to last corner) the bit flat bit at the top just out of the right hander is to long, Estoril the chicane 2 or 3 corners before the end is to flat and there are more. (im to lazy to list them all unless your willing to pay me ;) )

Would be nice to have
1) scores in the lobby
2) the game to be released mid season at the latest
3)for who ever does this game to work on the online side of it, as this is the important of the whole series now, you have a good single player game now sort out the online side.

Webbiker
13-11-08, 11:00
Top Priority
1) damage modelling (at the very least for the bike)
2) a true SIMULATION mode
3) a more vivid experience in general -> podium seremonies, safety cars, crowds, commentators (copy EAs sports games in some respects)

Very Important
1) a comprehensive Bike & Helmet and livery editor
2) realistic and intelligent AI
3) realistic setup options

Would be nice to have
1) fun and interesting unlockables (legendary bikes, riders, tracks)
2) ability to save replays
3) working online...

WhoDaFunk
13-11-08, 13:43
Top Priority
1) Times need to upload to scoreboards from anywhere (i.e time trials carreer etc)
2) cutting corners should be eliminated ..any significant grass should slow you down
3) Voice chat and Leaderboards on the PS# .. i cant belive that was screwed up

Very Important
1) Championship points tallied in online lobbies
2) ranled lobbies either eliminated or they dont drop you after one race
3) overhaul or get rid of the bike building process ..it takes forever

Would be nice to have
1) Downloadable content (Daijiro kato, Agostino , so on and so forth
2) adjustable setups..in sim maybe like sbk
3) Livery editor (only if it will not eat up bandwith and slow down the game)

Ternauwies
13-11-08, 16:41
Top priority:
the most important thing about a race game is good ONLINE experience with many FEATURES.
- atleast have voice chat (ps3, this is a disgrace that is not supported) because you want to have fun and talk during the race with your buddies. Discuss what track someone wants. Now I have to phone my buddy. This will commit many people to the game, it build a community. Many friends of mine passed this racing game because of it.
- Also when voice chat is supported the option to mute people. (this sounds logical, but many game companies forget this, which is stupid).
- Option to kick and invite friends. When you have many friends and the room is full with onknown players, it enables the host to kick someone to make room or if someone is lagging. (please no voting in the game, that irritating. People should go to another host if they are not ok with it).
- No stupid videos during the loading screen with the track in multiplayer. For singleplayer it is nice, but in multiplayer it is important that people can play as soon as possible. Waiting times must be low as possible. Now many players have to with for the one guy that is still watching the track vid.
- options to enable penalties for people who bump others at very high speed. Like warnings for example, like toca race driver 3, which has one of the best online features online. Take that as a reference.

I have not addressed the gameplay issues here. Which I think is most of itl personal preference. I am happy with the simulation handling, which is can ofcourse be much better, but still is much fun.

The important thing is that the developers must look at the online experience and ask themselves the question (example): What functional requirements are important,that offers the best experience, if I and my friends wants to play against each other online?

Lil_naja
13-11-08, 18:17
Top Priority
1) Change The AI In champion mode Its stil like they are riding on arcade When you are playing on sim mode !( Make it realistic Not On Stabilizers Because they cant fall when ride on bumps like in sachsenring en le mans you see the bikes of the AI go left en right but they dont fall en when i do that i fall
2) Make The simulation mode more reallistic (might look a bit to sbk08) Now you cant even do a stoppie the braking is way too strong !
3) The sounds/ engine in motogp you get way to fast on the top since when stoners bike is limmited to 324 ? make it so it can go at least tp 340 345 but not easy 270 310 325 345 just real!310 315 321 330
4) Offline MULTIPLAYER so we can play with our friends/family in the livingroom
Very Important
1) Better Bike Settings not just + - fast or slow
2) the tracks Some tracks are not like reallife misano is good with all the asphalt near the track other tracks have that 2 put it in
3) weather effects!! When i ride in the rain i cant feel like im riding in the rain I Want to feel the Difference !
4)Shifting Lights the light is there But it doesnt Work -___-

5) Better (dashboard/Cockpit) Its a bit to dark you cant really see good how fast your goin sometimes
6) Get rit of those things that when you cutt of a corner you get slowed down just put flags and such things because its really anoying
7)Put the splitt times back in online races and normale modes not only in time trial i want to see when im racing that im faster than own split time in the first sector.

Would be nice to have
1) Updates for bikes settings ? or when someone rides with a differend colour on his bike that you could update it
2) An extra Mode ? Doesnt matter what
3) Flags Pitboards not so you can see it but it would be nice/fun

Sorry for the bad english :P

much77
13-11-08, 21:32
hi all :)

not have so much to change but maybe to release for PSP users too this great game.

VVV Hellbr1ng3r
14-11-08, 01:39
* Top priority
1) Tournaments - Some online racing games offer weekly tournaments that operate on a seperate server. These are usually a predetermined class on maybe a rotated or random selected circuit each week. They are on auto-run so may require some small maintenance, Im mainly thinking about the kind of weekly tourneys held within the game on PGR & FM2

2) Tire/Fuel Degradation Speed changing - Introducing pitstops more often by making tires/fuel run out more quicker and become a factor in the race. (Thinking rFactor here :) )

3) Free run/hotlapping - I looked at the fastest lap boards and (may be mistaken) I think you can only set laptimes in online race lobbies. I would like to hotlap offline within my own time and see where my laptimes stand on the boards.

* Very important
1) Customization. Personalizing things in games, expecially games based around motorsports is getting bigger. The Ability to paint/change the visual look of a bike/rider/helmet would be great. Not just selecting from pre-determined created ones. But creating your own adds another element

2) Alternate track layouts. Some tracks such as Mugello and Motegi have more than one layout. More layouts of a certain venue offers variety and more to play with on a racing game. Reverse-raced tracks can always offer some great replay value, but Im sure you may run into licensing issues somewhere ;)

3) More detailed setups for the bike setups. The + and - settings are great for first-time bikers such as myself, but as for real life bike owners and racers, a more hardcore detailed setup board would please them a lot.

* Would be nice to have
1) Triple-barelled-numbers - I was shocked to find I could not ride my bike with my signature #616 ;)
2) Harsh-er SIM mode - This is my first bike game and I found the handling physics on SIM mode suprisingly easy, I expected the bike to kill me everytime I wasnt concentrating with brake/throttle control


Hope this helps, great game! :D

much77
14-11-08, 08:03
if to be honest, i really want to see one good thing that someone here was mentioned,
give us old riders bikes and offcourse old tracks even if they are not running currently this year such as istanbul park maybe ? :)
or kyalami ?

think about it.. :lol:

HeYjOe
14-11-08, 10:49
Thanks for the feedback so far, please keep it coming.

Im not trying to be pedantic, its because with such feature ranking I can go back to the developers and say xx amount of players this that these x, y and z features are top priority (hence will be taken into very serious consideration for inclusion), xx amount of players think that features a, b and c are very important (so still considered seriously), while features d, e and g would be nice if you can fit them in.

If I dont submit feeback in this form you might end up with features that you dont consider fundamental included and the more important ones not in. We dont want that, do we ;)

Not wanting to come down too hard on ya Tenebra but that kinda says it all, theres no need for algerbraic suggestions.

Theres been lists, with lists, not forgetting sub-lists since god knows when, it seems Capcom nor Milestone just cannot comprehend the simplicity of it all. Methinks all the trouble is maybe down to Group discussions, ie a developer has a great idea that means squat for functionality.

Youd be better getting a Room set-up on Live, invite the top players then chew the cud & record it. If Capcom had passed the beta to one or two people who play MGP then believe me everything and I mean EVERYTHING would have been spotted within half a day.

By requesting yet another list I get the feeling its just down to Capcom wanting to be seen getting involved, looks akin to spin, most of us have the T-Shirt and its aged/ripped.

Damn condescending post Tenebra, you imply the faults lie with the community, wake up and smell the proverbial coffee

KANEMALEDETTO
14-11-08, 15:50
ciao tenebra
hi tenebra

in primis faccio i miei migliori complimenti a voi Capcom e ai Milestone perchŠ, nonostante qualche bug, motogp secondo me e i miei amici Š un gran bel gioco
at first i wanto to do my best regards to Capcom and Milestone beacuse, even if there are some bugs, motogp is a great game

volevo per• fare alcune precisazioni
but i would to tell any thigs


come mai gi… aprite un post x motogp 09 quando io andando online trovo ancora i bug d motogp 08? smbra quasi che vogliate darci un contentino e farci stare buoni per evitare di vedervi intasate le Vostre mail con le Nostre proteste riguardo motogp08; ho visto che il post con le novit… di motogp09 Š gi… pieno di belle idee ma io rimango dellopinione che motogp 08 non Š affetto da piccoli bug sui quali si pu• passare sopra, ma da grossi bug che minano lesperienza online.
Il fatto che la console freeza dopo un po di gioco online (non sempre) fa si che noi appassionati di 2 ruote possiamo scordarci di fare tornei online
personalmente la cosa mi Š successa solo 4-5 volte da quando ho il gioco ma la maggior parte delle volte capita che allinizio della stanza siamo in 9-10-11 e a met… gara mi ritrovo a giocare solo con 3-4 persone.
why you make a post about motogp 09 yet?you should must delete the bugs of motogp 08. i think that You want to pass directly to motogp09 to forget us the bug of this motogp08. i saw that in the post of motogp09 there are many ideas but ithink that the bug of motogp 08 are too big to forget it because those dont permit the online experience
about us who can play motogp is impossible to start tournament, personally my console freezed only 4-5 times when i bought the game, but everytime i start a race with other my friend we start with 9-10 or 11 players and in the half of race i see that we are only 3 or 4 players.



Io non so se state lavorando ai problemi di motogp (lo spero e in tal caso questo post fai finta che non esista) ma secondo me non potete mettere in vendita un gioco che ha questi problemi

i dont know if you working about motogps bugs (i hope and if the right things delete this post) but i think you cant sell a game with this kind of problems



unaltra che non sopporto, ma che non Š un vero Š proprio bug ma solo una dimenticanza, Š il fatto che nn si possano fare assetti online
io ODIO dover sentire che la mia moto arriva al limitatore molto prima delle staccate su determinate piste ( mugello, cina, sepang ecc)
Potevo capire se pur non mettendo un assetto personalizzato facevate in maniera che le moto avessero un assetto universale per ogni pista; ma cosi non va proprio... sia se giri al mugello che se giri a jerez la moto fa sempre 320-325 circa

an other things: this is not a real bugs but only a problem.
i HATE cant make setting online; in every track the bike arrives to 320-325 km; in tracks as jerez, estoril this is ok, but in track as mugello cina ecc the bike arrives at limitator; this is a big error because in battle for 1st position is useless take the wake for overcome; i hope there will be an update


sorry for my english i hope you understand

ROCKGOD01
14-11-08, 20:51
This game for 08 is trash. The way the bikes put power to the ground is the only redeeming factor at all.

Priority. In depth lobbies and adjustability for the bikes offline AS WELL AS ONLINE. As you go through a season you get your credits that can be applied to ALL The bikes instead of just one in that particular spot. That was a very bad move. Gear ratios that are real. These can easily be found on numerous sites for these actual bikes. Game needs to have the championship online so you start at the first track and go to the last race accumulating the proper points for position. A proper SIM where you have many different parameters you can adjust. Proper rankings without having it done just by ranked rooms that close after one race. SIMS and NON SIMS should be in seperate scoreboards. ANd FInally CUSTOM liveries. THis is something that helps us as online racers know who we are racing when the names are turned off. I hate seeing just about everyone being the same rider. How boring is that?

gp500faster
14-11-08, 22:35
Top Priority:
- add onboard view mode fallowed by riders head as it make onboard view gaming extra enjoyable(aside from the static camera like cockpit view mode) this view mode was everywhere but in SBK08 and here. The static camera view provide all wildness from bike behaving (the bike feeling from there is horrible) which riders head view mode can make it more smoother and realistic, cant it?
-switch smoked glass when using cockpit view mode with more brighten, just more transparent:) the same bug was in SBK08.
- more detailed bike setup !
-release version of game code must be free of main bugs like no sound, stuttering, etc! its not a DEMO...
-better control setup and support (joystick, carike steering wheel, pad, mouse!) good designed bike handling by controller is the most important part to make the game enjoyable. Here its not about physical engine, its about controller couse this game is good only if Im using keyboard....

Very Important:
-redesign crashes first step would be make the crashhighsideslide on gravel just little bit slower and more detailed and smoother
-probably redesign multiplayer both: technicaly and ideologicaly /I didnt use it yet but everybody just moaning on it, so.../
-replay on-demand!

Would Be Nice To Have:
-remove the fire from exhausts! its SBK matter not motogp for god sake;P! or just make it really rarely happen (the less, the more, belive me)
-try to make the rider/bike visible leaning a little deeper
-also riders postures would be more suited to real (Rossi tall & thin, Capirossi short, etc:) )
-visible bike damage as it werent used in any previous bike game. It could rock! more realistic bike behave during crash also....
-add visible pieces coming of the rear tyre when youre behind different bike as it was implemented in MotoGP 2 from THQ when I was behind somebody and he accelerated I saw that ex-tyre things in front of my cockpit and on track for just a second but it was very nice felling:)

my silly wichlist idea:
-one of the campaign modes player could start as Pre seasonal tests with all bikes (for example MotoGP class) trying them just once without adjusting and he would get that bike on which he reached the best time on the random test track.
-in future it would be interesting to put in game a role playing aspect like riders behave or gestures to each other before and after race and changing it (randomize) during campaign.

v24
15-11-08, 08:45
Flyin Bryin !!! Ur da manager....!!!
Thats what i want to hear
For Capcom Look at the Superbike 2001b)

Wasp46
15-11-08, 16:24
Top Priority
1) Online Championship
2) Online Settings
3) Online Chat

Very Important
1) Fix Simulation Mode..bike just drops..no feeling if it could happen you know what i mean ?
2) nothing
3) nothing

Would be nice to have
1) NO Talking about Moto Gp 09
2) FIX Moto Gp 08
3) nothing

flyinbriyin
15-11-08, 20:07
Flyin Bryin !!! Ur da manager....!!!
Thats what i want to hear
For Capcom Look at the Superbike 2001b)

LOL!!!:lol: :) Thanks man! I would love to be involved with the development of MOTOGP 09. I think everyone responding to this thread has got some great ideas. HATS OFF TO ALL!

By the way, has anyone fixed the no sound problem on the game yet??

The Duke of Chez Vegas
16-11-08, 12:49
Top Priority
1) Dont let Milestone anywhere near it
2) Give Climax & THQ a call
3) Beg for them to take over

Very Important
1) Proper sounds for the 125s and 2 fiddies - THEY ARE NOT FOUR STROKES!
2) Refund me my money for Motogp 08
3) Kick the fecker who approved it for release

Would be nice to have
1) A game thats right first time round
2) Polyphony to release Tourist Trophy for PS3
3) A go on Adriana Stoner

FFFFFFFFFF
16-11-08, 18:12
* Top priority
- Climax must develop the game.

* Very important
- No feeling of slow bikes. Maybe changing the camera position or technical effects would be great.
- Good sound.

* Would be nice to have
- Option to play the whole weekend like in SBK-08.

Doc
16-11-08, 20:09
How about a game that works, that would be nice, try fixing this one befor you make anouther
Doc

Lotus-JPS
16-11-08, 20:27
Sorry for my English.

* Top priority:

I just ask one thing, a decent online that can be done championships with your friends. I think it does not cost much to do with private items classification for the race because I think we are in the year 2008 and not in 1994.

* Very important:

The launch of the game should be in place by summer and not coinciding with the end of the championship, it loses much interest and too many sales and I hope that in the Moto GP 09 will improve the simulation.

* Would be nice to have:

In the offline AI is very bad, very little worked.

WhoDaFunk
17-11-08, 17:01
Yeah Climax , thats the solution ...if you like your motorcycles to handle like Jetskis

Tenebra
18-11-08, 13:18
Hi guys

thanks for your feedback so far, please keep going. The first batch of suggestions is now with the producer, I will send him regular updates.

HeYjOe - Im failing to see how my post implies that the faults lie with the community or is condescending. How about seeing it as a straight forward endevour to connect development with the players?

KANEMALEDETTO and anyone else who commented on the 08s bugs - The bugs that have been highlighted by all of you in this forum have been collated by me and reported back to development. Bugs and features are separate things and must be treated as such. Were not dismissing the bugs, were not trying in any way to brush them under the carpet, but in this particular thread Im asking if you could kindly let us know what are the features that you would like to see in the next installment. A game doesnt get developed in 2 months, if you want to have your suggestions considered for inclusion in the development documentation we need to get to the producer as early in the development as possible. No point in coming up with a wish list when a game is already at beta stage.

KANEMALEDETTO
18-11-08, 13:42
ok tenebra

im sorry if i posted in this section that isnt the right section

thanks for reply me and im happy to hear that Youre working at motogps bugs



this is my wihs list


Top Priority
1) setting online
2) championship online
3) live without problems

Very Important
1) real IA
2) real rules
3) real sound of bike (motogps bikes have a bad sound)

Would be nice to have
1) if you delete the bug and put this little ideas motogp09 will be the best ride game



thanks tenebra and sorry for disguise



ps:
tenebra ma 6 italiano ?

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 13:54
ok Tenebra .This post is not meant to offend anyonebut I i think that the problem hence the Frustration lies within the following. Over a year and a half ago this very same request was made at Capcom-unity and Walken , myself , Joe and a few others have been making suggestions pretty much since the beginning which Sven was in turn taking to the producers as well as they themselves trolling the forums to see what we had to say as a matter of fact Walken ,while in his capacity as moderator sent a huge writeup to Sven about the whole corner cutting issue stating that it was going to be a big problem . Well guess what ? the issue was never addressed hence the scoreboards , such as they are, were ruined..no one listened. We all screamed and yelled about how miserable the online was for SBK and that if this game followed suit it would mark an early demise, nobody listened. We all noted the importance of times uploading to the scoreboards from anywhere I.E careeer , time trials etc. ..gues what never happened. Championship points in lobbies , never happened. Im glad you are all taking the time to do this now , but its kind of too little too late i think a lot of people are really turned off right now, I for one have turned to gears of War, this is the first time in 5-6 years that i am not playing a GP game exclusively and to make matters worse you all are focusing on 09 which is 6 months to a year away. For Gods sake why not focus on fixing some of the existing problems? Like no voice chat on the PS3 , that is totally unacceptable, how about fixing the cutting issues, or uploading to the scoreboards. Thinking ahead is great but you are cutting your nose off in spite of your face . go to Capcom unity Tem I know you are signed up. look at whats been going on for the last year. come on now youre Capcom get it together . There is no reason for this game to have come out the way it did. I for one appreciate the intrest in everyones opinion but i would have appreciated it even more a year ago

Tenebra
18-11-08, 14:14
WhoDaFunk, Im sure you can appreciate that I cant answer for another team, I can only answer for my own actions.

Up to you guys, I can either (1) try and do my best for your suggestions to be taken into consideration in the development or (2) do nothing at all.
My job is to support the community and - whenever possible - function as a bridge between gamers and development. Whilst I obviously cannot promise that the features will actually be implemented, I can promise that sensible suggestions will be submitted to the producer/s.

I understand that not everybody, for a variety of legitimate reasons, is interested in submitting their ideas. I dont think though that turning to sarcasm or adopting a negative attitude is necessary though and certainly doesnt help the community.

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 14:30
WhoDaFunk, Im sure you can appreciate that I cant answer for another team, I can only answer for my own actions.

Up to you guys, I can either (1) try and do my best for your suggestions to be taken into consideration in the development or (2) do nothing at all.
My job is to support the community and - whenever possible - function as a bridge between gamers and development. Whilst I obviously cannot promise that the features will actually be implemented, I can promise that sensible suggestions will be submitted to the producer/s.

I understand that not everybody, for a variety of legitimate reasons, is interested in submitting their ideas. I dont think though that turning to sarcasm or adopting a negative attitude is necessary though and certainly doesnt help the community.

Ten.. i really appreciate your efforts , really , and im not taking a shot at you at all . you have always been very forthcoming in any conversation weve had. Im just trying to give you a little backgound on everyones frustration. i really wish you would take a peek at the Unity site and see what im talking about . I really do think however that there needs to be a patch(es) if peoples interest is to continue into 09

WALKEN
18-11-08, 14:38
WhoDaFunk, Im sure you can appreciate that I cant answer for another team, I can only answer for my own actions.

Up to you guys, I can either (1) try and do my best for your suggestions to be taken into consideration in the development or (2) do nothing at all.
My job is to support the community and - whenever possible - function as a bridge between gamers and development. Whilst I obviously cannot promise that the features will actually be implemented, I can promise that sensible suggestions will be submitted to the producer/s.

I understand that not everybody, for a variety of legitimate reasons, is interested in submitting their ideas. I dont think though that turning to sarcasm or adopting a negative attitude is necessary though and certainly doesnt help the community.

Well Tenebra, I dont think the Negative attitude is completely out of line at this stage in the game! In defense of yourself I understand you are merely a Admin and can only support the community to direct or funnel their rants and such, not nearly as potent as Christian (Sven) who is Corporate Officer and Vice-president of Strategic Planning & Business Development!

So basically with that being said I respect your willingness to act upon the moment and reach up one last time to grab the stick before the quicksand devours, but seriously, at this point the damage is done and the community that your addressing has been around the block my friend.

Good Day!

Tenebra
18-11-08, 15:18
With all respect, Walken, Im not exactly an admin (Im voluntarily covering until we get community managers in place) and trust me, I have my ways of escalating issues :)

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 15:22
Good so lets escalate fixing wwhats wrong with 08 in the short term so we can get everyone to come back and stay on till 09 comes out. look one of the things that were mentioned waay back is that in spite of what a lot of people claim that its all about the racing , its the scoreboards that keep everyone coming back. 360 ones are totally screwed up in addition to having to do a ranked match to post . PS3 doesnt even have scoreboards or chat. WTF
How about this:
1. Fix the uploading of times ( from anywhere rather that a ranked room)
2. Fix the Cutting problem
3. wipe the boards clean

PS3 same as above as well as Voice chat and oh yeah a scoreboard

Short term i think that will apease the angry mob until 09 comes out

WALKEN
18-11-08, 15:43
With all respect, Walken, Im not exactly an admin (Im voluntarily covering until we get community managers in place) and trust me, I have my ways of escalating issues :)

Oh but of Course Tenebra! I can tell how you Escalated all the Fans input for a brilliant job for Online features on MotoGP08! With all due respect that is!

I can also tell how quickly the Voice chat patch has been Escalated for the Ps3 version??

I also love the brilliant Escalation of a fix for the poor folks over on the 360 version who are suffering from a previous development flaw that I so generously pointed out a year ago..

Point is Tenebra, if these problems were not addressed for MotoGP 08 then basically we are singing to the wind.

I understand fully what Production and Producing is about. Production is a fund and a form of insight!

Unless you are sitting right next to one of the Developers at Milestone who is writing the Net-code, then any suggestions you may be asking for have already been written, sealed, packaged and shipped! You even got a FREE T-shirt on that one!

If am going to waste any of my future time, outside of addressing this silly attempt at acting as if theres a sudden interest in what WE as a community want, I will personally fly to Italy with my Wife and explain it to Milestone!

Please dont take my wording the wrong way! If your willing to address the currant issues at hand (the ones mentioned above) then its possible you can regain a bit of trust?

Chop Chop!

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 15:49
You must excuse Walken hes just a tad upset about how 08 came out, unfortunately theres quite a few more just like him

Tenebra
18-11-08, 16:43
Walken, whilst I understand your frustration Id appreciate if we could have a civilised and mature conversation, sarcasm doesnt help.

Ive only joined Capcom 4 months ago, surely youll forgive me if I dont have an absolutely clear picture of what happened with MotoGP08. All I can do - and Im doing it - for MotoGP08 is collating bugs, reporting it and following up for a solution. As you fully understand production, youll also be aware that features do not get included (or extremely rarely) to a released version as a patch.

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 16:51
Ten I understand the features with regards to a patch , but in this case we are on life support and the shame of it all is that its actually a really good game and if the appropriate fixes were made , i think its not to late to get everyone back . i have quite a few people on my friends list who just stopped playing and returned the game because of said issues . my point is that if you wait till the next version to do anything my bet is they will all move on. Again when you get a chance go to unity and just brouse to see whats going on. You really will get a good picture

Tenebra
18-11-08, 17:06
WhoDaFunk, fixes to bugs can be done but its highly improbable that well get features added to the MotoGP 08. Modifying the whole online gameplay is not a bug fix, its a whole huge feature development, just to be clear.

Im sure that the Unity team is keeping a close eye on what is going on there.

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 17:32
ill be honest with you , the silence over there is Deafening

WALKEN
18-11-08, 17:37
Walken, whilst I understand your frustration Id appreciate if we could have a civilised and mature conversation, sarcasm doesnt help.

Ive only joined Capcom 4 months ago, surely youll forgive me if I dont have an absolutely clear picture of what happened with MotoGP08. All I can do - and Im doing it - for MotoGP08 is collating bugs, reporting it and following up for a solution. As you fully understand production, youll also be aware that features do not get included (or extremely rarely) to a released version as a patch.



Well Tenebra with all due respect, Voice Chat is a Feature! And it was said to be a Patched in Feature for the Ps3 version upon release! As it was not directly coded into the game disc or source code! Or was that just said to sell copys? Either way, even though the core of the game is really good, I paid $60 for a $4 demo, I believe I have all the right in the world as a Customer to EXPRESS my concerns, without being tagged as being Sarcastic, wouldnt you agree??

You stated that you are here to Collate Bugs and such, but you have started a thread for OUR advice for the future of 09. But you are not addressing the currant affairs to OUR standards and we have the right to at least be acknowledged concerning OUR resent purchase. Now if that is not addressed how can you expect people to have trust that OUR concerns will be addressed for future titles?

Also with respect, I clearly dont think you could possibly understand OUR frustration of years and years of dedication for MotoGP!

Also I am being civilized and Mature by not just venting my frustration of lacking parts of a game that should be a given and a monkey would be able to grasp this concept. I have taken a neutral stance up until this point, until I read this thread and some of the ways that members were addressed, HeyJoe for one!

Im not putting the blame on you Tenebra, at all. Maybe you are here at a tough time and I wouldnt want to be in your shoes personally, but as the saying gos Lad, If you cant take the heat, then stay out of the kitchen!

Most of US feel like we have been HAD! If I need to spell it out for you then we truly our in a bad position til 2012, seriously!

So what I want to hear from you is, When are WE getting OUR Voice chat patch for the PS3 version that was stated to be released as a patch upon release?
That would be a good start..

PS- Please dont get upset with my up front way of stating the obvious and please dont under estimate my intelligence and try to side step my inquiries.
Tenebra, WE are very passion about OUR MotoGP, I hope you understand?

Mush xx
18-11-08, 18:09
Guys, what is the point of dissing MotoGP 08 and arguing with a moderator? Tenebra is not responsible for any of the technical issues and besides there is nothing they can do now bar bring out a patch to fix the problems such as no voice chat on the PS3 (can they even add this in, without having to code a new game) and the freezing issues with the Xbox 360 version.

To change the game to how most people would like it, would involve re-coding the game from scratch and relaunching it, something which hopefully MotoGP 09 has done.

I have already sent in three lists of things from the Xbox 360 community, hopefully they will take note of these and add these into MotoGP 09.

I really dont see your problem anyway Walken, bar the lack of voice chat and scoreboards on the PS3 version, as you asked for the game to be basic and to stay like MotoGP 07 and thats what you got wasnt it?

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 18:14
Yes Mush just like the Laundy list of things that were presented for 08 and look what happened. So no mush youre wrong people do need to speak up . Ive never heard you tell Joe or any of your people to stop bitching . you need go no further that your own website. There are quite a bit of disgruntled gamers there, hell ive even seen you complain . Now just because its Walken or myself its bad . you should stand behind all of your people and everyone else for that matter that feels that after a year of input we were all wronged in a major way . Besides basic is one thing no chat , no scoreboards and the abortion that was done with live is not basic, besides in defense of Walken he always pushed for good online functionalyity and if i recall correctly hargreaves name was thrown around quite a bit. so lets not put a spin on this

Mush xx
18-11-08, 18:20
Not at all and I do stand behind everyone, its not just my website that information has been gathered from I travel the internet. I myself am disappointed with the lack of features in the game and the issues, but I really dont see the point in arguing with a moderator over them, especially when Tenebra obviously has nothing to do with the technical side of the game. I have sent the 3 lists in, really if there are anything else to list from other versions it should be listed in the technical thread here.

WhoDaFunk
18-11-08, 18:25
Ten is a little more than just a Moderator Mush i would think that you knew that .. When input is asked for then you should be ready and willing as Ten is to take the good with the bad ... but before we make a list of suggestions for 09 I think the existing problems need to be addressed or there will be no one around to enjoy 09. Besides we all went through this exercise before and look what happened

Mush xx
18-11-08, 18:31
Besides we all went through this exercise before and look what happened

Exactly, I just dont think this is the way to go about it and I already stated months ago that if MotoGP 08 has a lack of features and problems then it will put people off MotoGP 09 and beyond. Ten is asking here what you would like in MotoGP 09, there is nothing they can do now with MotoGP 08, except bring patches out to fix issues. Like I said is there even anyway of adding voice chat and scoreboards to the PS3 version in a patch? some things just cannot be patched as they would involve recoding the game.

Perhaps if Ten was able to tell us if there is?

WALKEN
18-11-08, 18:41
Besides we all went through this exercise before and look what happened

Exactly, I just dont think this is the way to go about it and I already stated months ago that if MotoGP 08 has a lack of features and problems then it will put people off MotoGP 09 and beyond. Ten is asking here what you would like in MotoGP 09, there is nothing they can do now with MotoGP 08, except bring patches out to fix issues. Like I said is there even anyway of adding voice chat and scoreboards to the PS3 version in a patch? some things just cannot be patched as they would involve recoding the game.

Perhaps if Ten was able to tell us if there is?

How about if I give you a bit of advice, how about minding your own business and letting a forum member speak his mind as a paying customer.

Try that out.

You had nothing to say to anyone else about them complaining about the game until I came here and Complained, man I feel special, thank you! Thanks, wow, haha seriously, thx! Now I can sleep tonight knowing how special I am..

PS besides if its any use to you, I was told Ps3 would get a patch for voice chat upon release from a CAPCOM employee!

Wraith
18-11-08, 18:43
Walken, whilst I understand your frustration Id appreciate if we could have a civilised and mature conversation, sarcasm doesnt help.

Ive only joined Capcom 4 months ago, surely youll forgive me if I dont have an absolutely clear picture of what happened with MotoGP08. All I can do - and Im doing it - for MotoGP08 is collating bugs, reporting it and following up for a solution. As you fully understand production, youll also be aware that features do not get included (or extremely rarely) to a released version as a patch.



I completely disagree in that last part of your statement. There are a lot if not ALL companies adding new features that are minor in the form of a patch.

If its not a patch then call it Downloadable Content and we will stop splitting hairs. The one and only thing that I would like to see patched or added in voice communication for the PS3, I cant believe that this was missed but included in the 360 version. This is the one and only feature that could be added to allow the PS3 users to not once again feel left out.

Now for what the topic requested.

Top Priority
1 - Same features in all platforms - Voice chat for PS3, PC and 360 for example.

2 - Send every programmer that is working on the bike handling engine to a motorcycle course and racing school. That way they know in fact HOW a sport bike actually handles in a corner on a track. (sorry for the sarcasm). So in essence make the simulation mode mean what it is more of a true feeling of simulation. Take Tourist Trophy as an example, thats what the bike enthusiast whats to see.

3 - Online Aspects - Allow control of the room, such as restrict to friends only, voice chat or even typing at the very least in the lobby. Allow for an option to allow voice chat during the race or off and only in the lobby. Allow muting of players if this is implemented. Allow vote kicking as well. There is nothing better then trash talking your buddy after he crashed during a race.

4 - If you can not make number 2 happen, they put it out to the community that actually knows what motorcycles are all about. Its easy to make and arcade game but it is the simulations, such as TT, that will stay forever in the minds of the enthusiasts.

Very Important

1- Career mode - Allow you to make your own rider be you, Much like EA has done with Be a Pro. Allow the users to customize their bikes a bit more, of course with in reason. Let us chase sponsors down in this mode, thats what it is all about. Its one thing to not allow us to modify the great Vales looks and bikes, I agree, dont allow us to touch the existing riders and teams, but let us create our own, looks and all.

2 - Create our own online race season. With online a lot of us want to race with friends or groups and have the season keep tack of the points and standings. Have it setup a race calendar and manage practice, qualifying and race days. Some of us die hard MotoGP fans would love to have our own fantasy league either running during the race season or in the off season since we cant ride.

3- Bike damage. In the day and age of these consoles, its not that hard to show farings and clip ons (handle grips for you non riders) ejecting off a bike if you start flipping it around. Even if its not left all over the track and it disappears, but if I crash in some amazing acrobatic way at least let me say Oh man that was cool. Other then I dont get how nothing flew off the bike?!


Nice to Have

1 - Them to take their time to develop a game that is worthy of carrying the MotoGP title that fans wont be ashamed of recommending to people.

Nbkrooney
18-11-08, 23:10
Is no where safe? Im Sorry Walken but you got me banned from the US forums, simply because you had the Mods wrapped round your finger so they wouldnt listen to what you do to a forum- now you are here, yet again causing trouble and with a capcom employee no less?

IF you feel so strongly that Sven is be better than Ten (as you have basically said by boasting svens position in the company) , IF you think that Ten is doing a poor job and has treated you unfairly, then please, go back to the US forum.... and leave us alone? WE found this place and got people posting, people who normally wouldnt on the US ones as they knew it was your territory and didnt want the fuss. It has been peaceful and there was no personal fighting, we had the debates that occur with the passion but it was nothing personal... all in the name of the game.

So as a gentleman, I ask, you clearly have the better sources on the other forum... why are you here? Take your complaints to Sven and get them escalated ;)

WRAITH - Im sorry but I disagree with your disagreement, now on the Sony front yes voice chat (a feature) has been available to DL and install... but from a 360 front... apart from the rare occasion as Ten said, where a feature is patched most are worked on as DLC.... with a patch being released allowing the new code to be intergrated.

Forgive me I just caught the rest of your post... yes it would be splitting hairs as you say, but what Ten is getting at is it would take up developement time from 09 to put in these features, where as they could be using to time to work on next years title and include them in seamlessly, yes a couple of patches are needed but to get features to be released would be damaging to the hopes of a better 09 ;)... but Capcom arent the first to miss out chat on the PS3.... I thought Sony would have told Devs to include it as standard!



Seeing as I have made this post i might as well add my 10cents, now firstly I apologise Tenbera for bringing a sour note to the topic... but as I hope you apreciate... there is history and this is taking it too far.

I avoided 08 like the plague... so ll admit from the off, untill a demo is out i am purely going on 2nd hand material, peoples views and thoughts, videos etc etc

There is dramatic need for improvement on the online aspect, I am sure people have already tirelessly detailed exactly what is needed so I wont go there.. but as some have said - online so many times makes or breaks a game, unfortunately it is what has broken this game. In the era of LIVE we have been spoilt, and the only way to win is to spoil us more! :)

Tenebra
18-11-08, 23:54
Ok, lets sit back and start this again as this is taking the wrong turn, especially when I see people antagonising and flaming each other. Enough said, I hope. Im totally and utterly open to honest and genuine debate and constructive criticism but Im not very inclined to take bitching, whoever its directed to.

I am more aware of the frustration than you might think - Im a hardcore gamer myself with some 30 years gaming on my shoulders; Ive had dealt (professionally) with good games and bad games, Ive been heavily involved with racing games, Ive handled gaming communities for 8 years. Not much of a n00b.

As you can see Im anything but chickening away or dismissing your comments. That should be a good enough indication that Im committed to negotiate with development your visions of a good, solid, enjoyable game and the development plans.

Im not a mere admin, community wise my experience is to work with producers and R&D to deliver games for gamers. Easier for me with MotoGP sitting in the same room as its producer, less easy for other Capcom games.

MotoGP 08
Reports on bugs are spread in this forum and rather than asking you to post them again in one consolidated thread Ive decided to invest more of my time and check every single thread and post. You dont need to worry about it, Im following everything up.
The voice chat issue in the PS3 version will be sorted out according to my latest info from the producer. I understand that some of you might think that other features could be delivered as downloadable content but Im afraid this sort of content is generally decided, agreed and budgeted for at pre-development stage, unless were talking about long life MMOs or RPGs. I would never promise I stand any chances to have new feature implemented for released games.
This doesnt mean I dont find your criticism valid and legitimate. I joined Capcom only 4 months ago and there isnt much I can do retrospectively for a game that is already on the shelves.

MotoGP 09
The game is still at early development stage, hence I am in a position to report and advise on features and requirements. I cant physically afford reading separate threads and posts spread all over the forum nor in other communities therefore I opened this thread, hoping to have one single place to get your suggestions from. As you might have noticed, I take an impartial stand and ask you, the gamers, to rate your suggestions by importance. I might have my ideas but if you guys tell me that customising your helmet is more important than dynamic weather thats your call and I will report faithfully what the community asks for, not what I think its more valuable.

Hope this clarifies once for all and Id much appreciate if the debate could continue in a more open, respectful way.

WALKEN
19-11-08, 11:53
Nice! Thats the way to address Tenebra, Thank You!

Hats off to you, Now I know your serious!

PS- OK no more bitching, sorry! Like I said in one of my previous posts, if the Ps3 voice chat is patched asap as it was said it would be, this will regain my faith in the future, so seeing as this is one of the biggest problems outside of others that exist, it would be nice if you can speak openly and more precised about what is going on concerning this Major issue. Thank You!

Wraith
19-11-08, 16:03
Nbk - At this point in the stage where 08 is, I agree, the only thing I really miss is the voice portion on my PS3, the rest I can deal with.

Ten - Thank you so much for commenting on the PS3 Voice even if it is all the information you have and I know you dont have the final say but at least its something to look forward to.

The funny thing is that certain people will set a higher priority on customization then likely realism. I can understand why. The sad part is that the people that race and ride will be disappointed if that makes it in over a much improved physics engine. I would love both, but if I had to rank I would put physics engine improvement at number 1 and customized helmets for example at number 10.

Keep the arcade style of riding for the people that dont ride and wish they could but offer a better more realist engine to those that want a better simulation. As the arcade style riders improve their skills they will move to the sim mode and enjoy it that much more.

I hate to constantly quote a competitor but Tourist Trophy REALLY had it the closest I have ever seen. I had a lot of friends buy PS2s just for that game alone. I friends people buying the backwards compatible PS3s so they can still play that game. Thats how much the motorcycle community loved that game. If they allowed more then 4 bikes on the track ( that is a PS2 limitation ) that game would have destroyed all future motorcycle racing titles, regardless of who had the rights. You could tell the difference between a ZX10 and a R1 and not from a gamer point of view but from a riders that actually rode both those bikes and laughed about how close they got the differences.

Now I know MotoGP is nothing like production bikes, but I rode the them all so far in 08 and I cant tell you the difference at all in sim mode. They are all blistering fast with great handling and massive acceleration. However, the tips that come up tell me otherwise. Now in 09 the M1 will be the bike to ride since the development and real MotoGP racing season tells me its going to be that way.

The one thing I would love to have you pass along to your physic engine development team is this. Its 80 percent rider, 20 percent bike. The bike doesnt make a rider fast, the rider makes the bike fast. So if the team can realize that its the player that will make these bikes fast they can look at developing the handling and physics engine from that perspective.

Anyways if you look back at the the reviews of past of this title you will always see that as being one of the issues. Its racing game, dont turn it into a challenge fest and look for new inventive ways to make it more feature rich in regards to Challenge Mode this, and unlock hidden that. Make it the best RACING SIMULATION you can. Thats what it is, a racing game, not a Wheelie x distance to unlock something.

As stated as as you know Online is where it is at. That alone is the biggest reason I got this title even though I knew what to expect. However, To be able to race with my friends then trash talk them at the real track the next weekend, thats what make 08 so much fun. I listed a pile of online suggestions and there are people you made the same and more comments on how to improve it as well so I see you have piles to take back to the team as it is.


Ten, thanks for at least communicating with the community, its a nice change and I truly believe you are bring this back to the team. Let me know if you need a alpha or beta tester that has real motorcycle racing and riding experience.

flyinbriyin
19-11-08, 16:24
I agree Tenebra, thanks for all youve done and are doing. Ill apologize on behalf of all of us it shouldnt haved turned into a bitching session. This is truly the first time Ive ever been asked to give my/our opinion (the gamers) on what we would like to see in our next game.

I think that is both admirable and professional. I think some of the greatest research one can do is talk directly to the people who will be purchasing the game.

By the way, are you all in Europe or do you have anything to do with us here in the USA? I live in the USA and am having issues with my game, I would like to know if Capcom-euro and Capcom-USA collaborate on this stuff or if you each do your own thing.

Lotus-JPS
19-11-08, 18:12
Tenebra, the game is fun, but improvement, like everyone, me and a lot of people what we would like you to say to the Developers of the Moto GP 09 is that it could be done online with friends championships with pole laps before the race, chat online .. . That is very important in a game of the type of F1 or Moto GP. Has not worked on anything online Notos 08 GP as it is equal to SBK08, in Spain and many people complain in the forums of that, I will give you another chance to Moto GP for next year and hopefully have a proper online .

Sorry but my English.

Wraith
19-11-08, 19:36
I missed one very BIG Important item in my previous posts

*Important*

Online - If we have only 4 real players fill the grid with AI / Bot Bikes as an exmaple. This would be great as if its just myself and someone else to race the entire grid not just the two of us. So its more Co-OP then online at that point. If more players join the room, remove a computer racer and let it grow as more people join or leave.

If you want to take it that much further, allow for a Co-OP career / season to extend on my further feedback in regards to a fantasy league.

flyinbriyin
19-11-08, 23:11
* Would be nice to have
- Option to play the whole weekend like in SBK-08.[/quote]

FFFFFFFFFF if I may stray a bit and ask you a question.I have SBK 08 as well and I cant even run it! I get this FAILED TO INITIALIZE DIRECT X error. You wouldnt know how to fix that problem....would you? All my drivers are up to date. No one can help me with this. I just thought Id ask.

HeYjOe
19-11-08, 23:21
Hi guys

HeYjOe - Im failing to see how my post implies that the faults lie with the community or is condescending. How about seeing it as a straight forward endevour to connect development with the players?


You cannot see why quote If I dont submit feeback in this form you might end up with features that you dont consider fundamental included and the more important ones not in. We dont want that, do we Wink might be consrued in such a way?

I am at a total loss then no need to say more

Red Frog
20-11-08, 02:31
Top Priority:
Mappable Right Thumbstick

Very Important:
Mappable Right Thumbstick

Would Be Nice To Have:
Mappable Right Thumbstick


Im still in doubt whether Ill be buying 09 at this point considering the frustration this has caused me but it needs to be pointed out else even more sales risk being lost, I know Im not the only person who requires a right thumbstick in motorcycle games. Its just rubbing salt in the wound seeing as the 360 version is the only one with this problem (I dont have the PS3 or PC versions, but I have been told they dont suffer from an unmappable right stick.). I could probably like the game if this got fixed.

Alltidxx
20-11-08, 10:47
*Top priority
- Even better handling. Add more rumble and also rear brake sensitivity (lockable if carelessly applied on sim). Handling and racefeel is everything. Likewise, full throttle at start should really just spin the wheel. Traction control maybe but then give the optioin of running without traction control and make it such that it would be advantageous for a good rider to run without TC. Or as in Formula One: CE, have degrees of tractioncontrol.
- Offline multiplayer/splitscreen (its horrifying that this was left out)

* Very important
-AI should not be running on steel rails as someone put it. If I get knocked off, chances are that they should too. As it is now AI can take anything but a proper highspeed ramming
- Presentation. Im probably the only one suggesting this as very important but look, I get depressed with the colors and intro and menu as it is today. People should get all pumped up to play the game. Have a look at MotoGP 4 intro for the second best intro of all time, all games in every category. MotoGP07 is great with the bikes going in the background and the music. Just replicate that or something. Dont change a winning concept.
- Better online (refer to what everybody else says here in terms of red times and scoreboards and chat)
- X as (gradual) throttle for PS3. General mapping of controls.
- Replays. For some reason, replays are more exiting at MotoGP07. I think it has to do with different camera-angles in the mode with trackfixed cameras and also one can zoom in more. I love the replays, I think they are exiting and therefore replays are important to me.
- The rider should lean more in sharp slower turns. Like in MotoGP 07.

* Would be nice to have
- Movies in challenge mode. Goddammit why didnt you just kinda redo the challenge section from MotoGP07? I can almost turn on the game just to go watch the unlocked little movies I have in the challenge section. Thats how cool they are! And this is the kinda pulse needed it the intro as well.
- More tuning options
- Widerlooking bikes/tires. It is so anorectic looking now. Again, use MotoGP 07 for reference.
- commentary
- saveable replays

Alltidxx
20-11-08, 15:22
General complaining withdrawn after reading tenebras latest post

ukacredsmall6
20-11-08, 23:53
hi tenebra
sorry to see all the bitching regards your thread (features youd like to see in motogp 09)
the main theme i get from all this is that we the customer feel as if we have been robbed of our hard earned CASH
as an avid gamer of all motorbike themed games, i just get the feeling that these companies put out a good trailer to
try and catch our attention and as soon as they have the money they are quicker of the mark than Rossi. it has to say the least put off a lot of
customers from actually purchasing the latest game

just look at these two websites that i am signed upto
http://www.network-challenge.org/
http://www.ukac-clan.net/index.php


you will notice that moto gp 08 has been ignored mainly due to the dissapointing releases of motogp 07 and SBK08
and the fact that there has been NO CUSTOMER SERVICE when trying to contact someone to resolve the issues with the above games

the clan that i am a member off had tried to setup a motogp 08 league but has not due to lack of interest
they tried the same with motogp 07 but had to give up as too many riders were getting booted out during a race
i have even downloaded your demo thats available and am still not positive enough to purchase the game

as the motgp series is licensed from Dorna Sports maybe that where the racing community should be focusing there bitching
and if enough start complaining to Dorna then maybe before the next release. someone will check that the game will actually work properly and wont need patching as soon as it hits the shelves

right thats my bitching over

Mextor
21-11-08, 09:33
hi tenebra

Someone will check that the game will actually work properly and wont need patching as soon as it hits the shelves



as a game that plays on both consoles and PCs i would have to say from a console side of things yes i agree with this totally, from a PC point of view this will never happen as patching is so much easier to implement, dont get me wrong god would i love someone to release a game on PC that works 100% with every thing its meant to and there are no bugs but it will never happen.

but Ten, the mean things you need to get across to who ever it is, is that there are only a hand full of people posting on this and other forums, i spent last night on Moto GP 07 on XBL last night racing against guys that have all tried 08 and gone back to 07 and i know there a lot more out that, you say your sat in there same room as the producers, you have to get them to under stand only a small percentage of ppl that are not happy with them game are posting here.

Tenebra
21-11-08, 09:40
Im listening, I havent gone anywhere. Dont think that Im ignoring you when I go quiet ;)

much77
21-11-08, 10:09
I just have to say one thing, no one is ignoring you guys, i sent to tech support 4 emails and recieved 5 from them and they did find a solution to my problems with the pc dvd game...
the game runs smoothly now.

Mextor
21-11-08, 12:47
Im listening, I havent gone anywhere. Dont think that Im ignoring you when I go quiet ;)


we know you are Ten, but you need to get the big lights and thumb screws out to make sure the producers are :lol:

Mush xx
21-11-08, 14:44
Thanks Ten for doing what you do I know everyone appreciates it.

The main things that are annoying everyone are the lack of being able to set up a championship in a lobby with tallies, the lack of rumble on the tracks, not being able to use the right thumb stick, no overall times on the leaderboards and next to your name in the lobbies, rooms closing after one race, game crashing, being able to cut corners, not being able to change set ups or save them for the bikes online in a lobby. confusing system of finding your custom bike, not being able to set times across the game, not being able to view the leaderboards from the lobby. All these should be made top priority to be sorted out for MotoGP 09, before anything else is added and please make the versions have the same features where possible.

WhoDaFunk
21-11-08, 15:35
Well i gotta agree Mush pretty much covered it all . Its funny when you actually see it all in one post its pretty scary.. nose to the grindstone guys , youve got a lot of work to do

pelthar
21-11-08, 17:45
Hi everyone!

Although there are many problems with the (lack of) Online features of the game, Id like to post my wishlist for offline, cause that needs some overhaul too. I have to say that I really like the additions of 125, 250cc and career mode, but the actual implementation seems slightly rushed to me. I like to play online, but still, single player mode is at least as important. So, aside from all the online stuff that needs to be done:

CAREER MODE

1. TOP PRIORITY:

- Career upgrade points should be awarded to every rider, although there should be downgrade points too. If I race with the worst team on a horrible bike, 16th place is a great result in my rookie season. In MotoGP08 I wont get anything for that. Look at real life results, youngsters like Savadori or Folger will obviously get reasonable bikes in the future, even if they only finished 15-20th in their races this year. My solution would be: give every team reasonable goals, and give out bonuses for overachieving, reductions for underachieving.

- Add a lot more stats to view, fast lap sequence, top speed, etc. In 08 the only stat we can look at is the track record.

- I see that some riders perform better on a few tracks than others (like Gadea is very good in Qatar, etc), which is good, but its not enough. Put much more effort in that, as full length races tend to have the same results all year, regardless of the track were racing. For example in 125 the results of every full length race seem to be: 1-2. Di Meglio or Corsi, 3-4. Talm csi or Olive, 5-6 Espargaro or Terol, 7. Smith, 8. Bradl, 9. Gadea. 10. Redding, 11. Cortese, 12. Iannone, etc. I mean I raced 2 and a half years, and Bradl was 8th in about 30 of the 40 races. Thats not realistic at all and kills replay value too.

2. VERY IMPORTANT

- Tire wear/changing weather - rain should slow the AI riders a bit more, they are too fast on the wet track.

- Simulate the results (or maybe even allow us to watch the races ) of the other 2 categories while were in the third.

- Save replays

3. WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE

- Other riders should also change categories, teams, etc. No point of racing the same season every time. Maybe add a pool of fictional rookies, and let them take over slowly, while the older riders retire. It also means that rider abilities should be treated separately from the bikes abilities. That would add replay value, increasing the longevity of single player.

- Add mechanical problems and injuries, as there are way to few dnfs in the game at the moment. Obviously, its ok to have avg 2 retirements in the MotoGP category with less than 20 racers, but its unrealistic in the 125s. 35 starters there, and at least 32 always reaches the finishline in the game.

- Option to have proper free practises and qualifications (FP1-2, QP1-2), with time acceleration function.

- In advanced/sim mode: recovering after a fall only takes 4-5 seconds in the game, thats wrong, it should take a lot more time, especially in full length races. Race ending damage to the bike or injury to the rider should have a slight chance too.

- Acceleration needs to be adjusted, the bikes are accelerating slightly too fast, resulting in weird laptimes. Im not sure about that, but I think lower gears are better, higher gears seem to be the problem, although I havent tested this yet.

Footnote: I think the handling of the bikes are pretty good, and I dont have much problems with the graphics either, so I wouldnt put much emphasis on improving these, although Im sure a lot would disagree.

Thats all, thx for listening.

pelthar
21-11-08, 19:12
Theres one more thing I forgot to mention, as there was no category called: Things you would HATE to see in MotoGP09.

- The AI riders are ridicoulously fast in the first 2 laps of every single race. They are even faster than in qualifying, and by a lot, regardless of my performance. I know the AI adjusts to my speed later on, but the first 2 laps are always horribly fast. Its even worse in rain. For example: in my career at champion difficulty, I finished 16th in qualifying in Shanghai in the wet, with a 2:15.x. (125cc - Matteoni Aprilia with no upgrades) The pole was 2:14.x. Then the race started, and I had similar laps, while the AI riders had 2.03.x in the 2nd lap of the race! WTF!!!!!!!! Later on the AI adjusted, and I was able to catch them, and they became so slow, that I was able to pass 9 riders in 1 lap...

This needs a lot more balancing.

Alltidxx
22-11-08, 08:25
pelthar, I agree a lot with your points on

career upgrade points
AI riders race placing needs to change more
tire wear
save replays

and your post about what we would hate to see in 09

Lil_naja
22-11-08, 11:13
Fixing the brake make it real makes the laptimes more realistic

aernouts
22-11-08, 14:33
Fixing the brake make it real makes the laptimes more realistic Yeah your right the brakes are insane strong ... very boring :s

i sent to tech support 4 emails and recieved 5 from them and they did find a solution to my problems with the pc dvd game...
the game runs smoothly now.
Alright then ... so tell me what did you do what did run this game runs smooth on your computer ?
dont tell me you need to run the fan on the GFX card run at 100% ............. and all will be good !!

*NOTE* i reckon Capcom/milestone should have fixed the 2008 version this game needed a BIG patch 1 min after it was realesed :evil:
and they (capcom/milestone) never replyed in a decent way :p :p
this is what should happen instead of having another 1000s requests (which have been said a 100 times) again for the 2009 version !!!!!!! FFS

if they cant fix 2008 version ..................... should we wait another year and write all the same stuff which has been done for 2008 version all over again and all will be good for 2009 ?????????

PFFFF dont think so ............... NO MORE MONEY from me thats 1 thing which i can guarantee for the 2009 version .... at least i can guarantee something Capcom/Milestone cannot,, as we all can see reading through all these posts

FFS they did not even reply on it :( man !

they do have a license for another 4 years at least if i am not mistaken :cry: :cry: .... o boy :(

SPDN_D1ES3L
22-11-08, 14:38
TOP PRIORITY

-A system of penalty for whom they cut the curves away in the mode online, because the people who has the best times in the leadbrders are because they do traps of this type

-A system in order that the times online register in the leadborders with the player match as like in the moto gp of thq because in 08 there is almost nobody who plays in ranked game and is not almost registered times

VERY IMPORTANT


That improve the options of setup of the bike and allow to use them online






Sorry for my english but i m using a traductor

VVV Hellbr1ng3r
22-11-08, 22:34
Yes I have to agree with Diesel, that corner cutting should not reward people with top leaderboard times

Also, how come I cannot submit times to the leaderboard in free run/time attack?

SPDN_D1ES3L
23-11-08, 10:39
I don t understand doing that errors milestone in the sbk 08 ,they repeat in the moto gp 08

I would like that some of that errors were solving in the moto gp 08 extracting a patch because the people are stopping playing the moto gp 08 for this problems

Lil_naja
23-11-08, 18:15
TOP PRIORITY

-A system of penalty for whom they cut the curves away in the mode online, because the people who has the best times in the leadbrders are because they do traps of this type




You Cant even Cut curves -__- I Am Self in the top 5 in sim mode on xbox 360 and believe me we dont cut its impossible maybe in sbk but when you did that the lap didnt count..

BDR Daz
23-11-08, 23:53
TOP PRIORITY

-A system of penalty for whom they cut the curves away in the mode online, because the people who has the best times in the leadbrders are because they do traps of this type




You Cant even Cut curves -__- I Am Self in the top 5 in sim mode on xbox 360 and believe me we dont cut its impossible maybe in sbk but when you did that the lap didnt count..
Come on Naja You and I both know thats a load of crap, Do you want me to do some videos so you can see the extent of the Cutting... If you think there are no cuts you are either stupid or Naive, there are a Few tracks (And I mean VERY few) that the cuts make any difference (I.e Indy, I didnt cut and I was still in 2nd the last time I checked) this is the one MAJOR ISSUE that needs sorting First and Foremost !

Lil_naja
24-11-08, 13:49
Come on Naja You and I both know thats a load of crap, Do you want me to do some videos so you can see the extent of the Cutting... If you think there are no cuts you are either stupid or Naive, there are a Few tracks (And I mean VERY few) that the cuts make any difference (I.e Indy, I didnt cut and I was still in 2nd the last time I checked) this is the one MAJOR ISSUE that needs sorting First and Foremost !
Yeah I really want to see some vids so i can see it but like in chicanes when you cut even just a little bit it stops you so maybe i dont know what you mean? Show me

motogpfan
24-11-08, 15:32
Things Motogp 09 must have:
Top priority:
- 125cc, 250cc and motogp class
- crash damage
- next gen graphics
- all the real circuits
- career mode, but now with more than just 5 years and more options to create a nice looking bike etc.
- grand-prix weekend in main menu, not just a race ( now with qualification and practices )
- nice multiplayer mode, not just the easy menu like it is in motogp 08.
- Ability to change bikes during a race like in real if it is going to rain.
- People walking around the circuit, not just an empty pit lane
- Podium ceremony, parade lap and warm up lap. ( in the parade and warm up lap you can ride by yourself, al three are optional in a menu )

Very important:
- commentary during the race or in replay mode
- saveable replays
- like in sbk 08, when you are in a race weekend you are in a pit lane.
- Manager mode, a mode in wich you can create your own bike and hire riders and sponsors.
- Tire damage
- Real looking crashes, sometimes when I crash and look in orbit mode, my riders head is on his belly!!!
- Online tournaments and ranking lists


Would be nice to have:
- circuit builder, an mode in wich you can create your own circuit. You should make the circuit, pit lane, tribunes and landscape. All this in a menu of items wich u can use to build it ( like corners etc. )
- 2 player mode, I m still horrified of this thing not having in the ps3 system.
- Motogp 09 should have a lot of information about the bike, like tire wear, bike damage, fuel in tank, bike settings, number of fans one rider has and rider abilities.

jaryth
25-11-08, 21:24
Any bike travelling in the wrong direction should not be able to have collisions with bikes travelling in the correct direction. Ive noticed this in some online races where people who are sore lossers ride the wrong direction in order to know people off and spoil the online game. The feature for turning off collision is already present when for example someone falls off their ride there is a brief period when they get back on the bike that they are immune to collisions with other bikes Im sure this could be extended.

Lets face it we all like having collision detection on because it makes cornering fun, but what we dont like are C*%$S taking the mikey because they are losing.

Also the music must be better and fixed, it still doesnt work on mine nore are the sound effects as good as the 07 version.
Geometry Shaders for the Crashes would be superb ie burnout style carnage
The ability to tune the bike for online races such as turning, suspension ect
Qualifying in online mode, the grid is currenly decided by who joined in which order.

Lil_naja
26-11-08, 14:12
PS: BDR Daz

I saw Your name on motogp @ indy second place but thats advanced -__- i was talking abouth simulation

Alltidxx
02-12-08, 12:19
I updated my list on page 4

much77
07-12-08, 10:28
an old tracks would be nice :) i mean tracks that are not participate any more in the motogp calander.:d

BarcodeUK
13-12-08, 17:18
As somebody very new to the PS3 and this gaming stuff my top priorty would be an option to stop the beeps as one selects different options in the game. My wife will put up with the rasing sound, she is used to that in the racing season but has come close to pulling the plug on MotoGP 08. My game play of this game is very limited because of this. Very quickly my list of must do stuff is raised and the only way is off :cry:

I would certainly like to see am option to display the ideal racing line. I have tried to learn this from the AI bikes but they are either too fast GP or all over the track 125.

Have a look at how its done in GT5 prologue. I have been able to get just racing sounds and they had a racing line option I could following to learn the track. I also very much like the way it goes red as you approach a bend too fast. This feature gave me a very fast in to the game so I could progress to the higher levels faster.

A nice to have feature would be leaning the controller to may the rider move, a 14 year old showed me that feature in the shop, I cant remember what game that was if Im allowed to keep the PS3 perhaps I will find out one day. :)

slingshot
24-12-08, 02:53
Just my $0.02... thanks for the opportunity to contribute to the success of the MotoGP franchise.

* Top priority
1) replay capability, incl slo-mo? (I work hard chasing down the pack in sim mode... would really like the ability to save replays of all of my hard work!)
2) in-game screenshots (same as above... Im sure all of us have some real nice screenshots just waiting to be wallpapers, or maybe posted at this site?)
3) some sort of bike damage (provided theres no game perf hit on this... if it affects frame-rate or the game in a negative way, skip it)

other categories to follow later...

* Very important
1)
2)
3)

* Would be nice to have
1)
2)
3)

From what Ive seen so far, this is a great game... absolutely fantastic rendition of the bikes (IMO), nice blurring during replays of the distant background adds to the realism. The *feel* you get during racing- especially on sim mode- as you get on and off the gas, power out of turns, set up on entry, etc is about as real as it gets (Ive done enough canyon-cat racing in my time to know).

So far, I love it... cant wait to see whats next (either enhancements to MotoGP 08, or GP 09 when it comes out).

freddygp
04-01-09, 01:36
* Top priority
1) replays save-able
2) Creating own riders and possibly a own team when the player want it (like in MotoGP 1+2)
3) Offical test runs at the beginning of a championship year (like in real motogp)
4) all players who drive in a class drive in every race inclusive Wild-Card pilots (in Multiplayer too)
5) comeback of legends-mode

* Very important
1) The Red Bull Rookies Cup as a fourth class (for entrants)
2) Bonus tracks (possibly like how its in the game Tourist Trophy - The real riding Simulator with Motegi East, West and Oval - they make it in parts, or classic racetracks like Spa-Francorchamps or Le Castellet)
3) track editor to create own-tracks
4) Say in highlighs who is crashing, winning and the other highlights - and the lap, in which is done, please.

* Would be nice to have
1) When you won a title in carrer-mode a Congratulation
2) Challenges for all classes
3) driving school
4) please ask the FIM for a FIM Endurance World Championship-Game (its only six races and please embadded in MotoGP 09 when FIM give you rights)
5) more crashes from the enemys

P.S.
I finished MotoGP 08 but I hate SBK 08-Game. Can you ask Milestone for the SBK 09 rights? I think they have the rights.

Thanks for reading
Freddy

tig121
12-01-09, 15:33
Things Motogp 09 must have:
Top priority:
- 125cc, 250cc and motogp class
- crash damage
- next gen graphics
- all the real circuits
- career mode, but now with more than just 5 years and more options to create a nice looking bike etc.
- grand-prix weekend in main menu, not just a race ( now with qualification and practices )
- nice multiplayer mode, not just the easy menu like it is in motogp 08.
- Ability to change bikes during a race like in real if it is going to rain.
- People walking around the circuit, not just an empty pit lane
- Podium ceremony, parade lap and warm up lap. ( in the parade and warm up lap you can ride by yourself, al three are optional in a menu )

Very important:
- commentary during the race or in replay mode
- saveable replays
- like in sbk 08, when you are in a race weekend you are in a pit lane.
- Manager mode, a mode in wich you can create your own bike and hire riders and sponsors.
- Tire damage
- Real looking crashes, sometimes when I crash and look in orbit mode, my riders head is on his belly!!!
- Online tournaments and ranking lists


Would be nice to have:
- circuit builder, an mode in wich you can create your own circuit. You should make the circuit, pit lane, tribunes and landscape. All this in a menu of items wich u can use to build it ( like corners etc. )
- 2 player mode, I m still horrified of this thing not having in the ps3 system.
- Motogp 09 should have a lot of information about the bike, like tire wear, bike damage, fuel in tank, bike settings, number of fans one rider has and rider abilities.



Yeah i agree with most of that, would like to see more customization on Leathers and Numbers, the bland white numbers on some bikes dont show up as the bike is white so slightly pointless, would be nice to make your own number/colour up make it a little more personal, and allow you to write your own decal on the leathers too. Definately top priority on more than 5 years for career that is a big issue. AI could do with some improvement, they sway like mad to stop you getting draft which i have never seen a rider do (not to the extent of these guys anyway) I think the bike point system sucks too, when you ride a real moto gp bike the team works on improving the bike not the rider, when you start on a 125 in champ mode you cant get anywhere cos your bike is crap, would be nice to maybe have test weekends if you pass certain criteria you get the option to improve your bike etc Just general improvement of the AI when they clash fairings with you, you end up in the gravel they never do, also the amount of kamikaze moves they make is a tad unrealistic, they dont care ride to kill you!!

As a side note, are we going to get a patch for the 360 version? Half the tracks i visit my rear wheel is almost up my own ass like the bike has bottomed out permanently. The backfire flames from some of the gp bikes appear 30 feet to the right of the bike too

trackdaze
07-02-09, 17:28
Hi guys, unsure if its already been said but can we have:

1. the option to remove player names from above the rider when online.
2. A legends option using period bikes would be good. Rainey,Schwantz,Mamola etc on the 500s
3. An online ranking screen would be nice with win ratio etc.

scott109
08-02-09, 16:00
i would like to see better sound. Photo capture option on Orbit mode. and option to play private online match with Bots if selected. When i play against my friend it would be nice to have a few bots in there to mix it up rather than 1 v 1, and no, not play public match and fill it up with glitchers!
Tyre Wear would be good, and better Qualifying setup, available over live.

motobot
22-02-09, 16:04
MotoGP 08 is the best one yet but their are crucial missing features
People who use manual shifter like real racing are challeged by the automatic riders too much. Especially on the starts.
The host of the rooms online should have more control like password rooms for people who run leagues like me.
Another feature I miss that was in 04 was the scoring system online also rankings would be nice too like F1 does.
I like riding behind the windshield but the guys head doesnt move over so its not realistic enough and makes it very hard to see the next turn.

ROCKGOD01
23-02-09, 23:23
Things Motogp 09 must have:
Top priority:
- 125cc, 250cc and motogp class
- crash damage
- next gen graphics
- all the real circuits
- career mode, but now with more than just 5 years and more options to create a nice looking bike etc.
- grand-prix weekend in main menu, not just a race ( now with qualification and practices )
- nice multiplayer mode, not just the easy menu like it is in motogp 08.
- Ability to change bikes during a race like in real if it is going to rain.
- People walking around the circuit, not just an empty pit lane
- Podium ceremony, parade lap and warm up lap. ( in the parade and warm up lap you can ride by yourself, al three are optional in a menu )

Very important:
- commentary during the race or in replay mode
- saveable replays
- like in sbk 08, when you are in a race weekend you are in a pit lane.
- Manager mode, a mode in wich you can create your own bike and hire riders and sponsors.
- Tire damage
- Real looking crashes, sometimes when I crash and look in orbit mode, my riders head is on his belly!!!
- Online tournaments and ranking lists

Would be nice to have:
- circuit builder, an mode in wich you can create your own circuit. You should make the circuit, pit lane, tribunes and landscape. All this in a menu of items wich u can use to build it ( like corners etc. )
- 2 player mode, I m still horrified of this thing not having in the ps3 system.
- Motogp 09 should have a lot of information about the bike, like tire wear, bike damage, fuel in tank, bike settings, number of fans one rider has and rider abilities.



ALSO:
Red times so cheaters that absolutly do exist. I have followed several of them and watched especially on Lemans how they cheat.
Ability to have access to all bikes during the game once they have been unlocked and not have to go through entire seasons of 125 and gp
just to change bikes.
COMPLETE ADJUSTABILITY OF PARAMETERS of the bikes components. It is motogp not stock car racing!!!!
Championship mode online to track the points and progress of the race evening.
OLd tracks from yesteryear. Old racers and their respective machines unlockable to add to the fun.
Setups customizable and savable for each track. Have it load at each track.
Custom liveries A MUST!!!! TO many ROSSIS ON THE TRACK AT ONE TIME!!!
THE REAL SOUNDS OF THE MACHINES INSTEAD OF THE GARBAGE IN 08.

tamaz
24-02-09, 21:04
Top Priority
- fix the bugs in the engine
- my career ends in 5 seasons, i mean hello, is there anyone home?
- points or improvements dont get carried over to classes, maybe not to teams what do others think?
- you can make huge corner cuts at one part off a track, yet in others, just cut it to close to edge but are still on the kerb and you hit the go slow part, consistency please.

Very important
- major improvment to sound quality or so I hear, being that even following every suggestion I see, my game crashes if i use any sound settings.

would be nice to have
- circuit designer, though this could be hell to develop for having non human players
- helmet designer
- customisable bike look

Reactive
26-02-09, 07:11
What i dreaming to see in bike game:
Impressive grafic - Everything shining and reflecting, like TDU. Impressive smoke and dust effects. Everyone like looking good grafic, i think it don`t need a comments.
But general what i want - MODDING TOOLS!!! I`m a biker and i like most of real factory bikes and i`m a designer, i want to put my creatures in good 3D-engine. Walking around it, looking from other sides. You know... game community still alive when game fans can giving something interesting for theirs favorite game and for other fans. Take a look at the GTA sites - over thousands of modifications for game over 5 years old!!!! If GTA4 will not having a total modding tools, like for GTA3/VC/SA, it will die through 1-2 years. MotoGP game will not so popular, i know and u know, but modding - is the reason for returning to game (GP500 community still alive, as i know, for game of 1999 year!!!!!).
Well, if it interesting for someone - i having MotoGP URT2 & 3, MotoGP07 and SuperBike:RidingChallenge. And i don`t having MotoGP08 and SBK08, becouse i have no reasons for to buy it. I`m agree to pay even 60$, but game must cost this price.

Sorry my poor english, i hope u understand me :)

tamaz
01-03-09, 18:48
Top Priority
1) Dont let Milestone anywhere near it
2) Give Climax & THQ a call
3) Beg for them to take over

Very Important
1) Proper sounds for the 125s and 2 fiddies - THEY ARE NOT FOUR STROKES!
2) Refund me my money for Motogp 08
3) Kick the fecker who approved it for release

Would be nice to have
1) A game thats right first time round
2) Polyphony to release Tourist Trophy for PS3
3) A go on Adriana Stoner



This is quite negative, on the whole its spot on though.

If this is the standard that capcom have in games steer clear of them, there are even typos in the hints. I would suggest firing test department, and putting developers and designers in for electro shock treament. I still am reeling that when I ignore the obvious flaws and play it, the career ended after 5 seasons. What brain dead in breed monkey came up with that idea. Please castrate them because they should not be allowed to breed for the good off the gene pool.

*throwing it into the pile of games bought that are not worth playing again*

This is so poorly developed it could have been done by EA.

Reactive
02-03-09, 05:49
Hey, Tenebra, are u there??? Is anybody hear us? :evil:


3 march... Amazing community support, Capcom! I think we have no hopes with this company....

:idea: Hey guys, check the links below, i found it today:
Petition about MotoGP: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/simbike/
Chopper game, coming 2009: http://ridetohell.deepsilver.com/

Front
16-03-09, 11:16
We need the same level of difficulty from the bot-riders on all tracks.
In 08 they ride fast on some tracks, on others they are much easier to beat.

stephens77
19-03-09, 17:54
Ok im a huge fan of all bike sports but was a little disappointed by moto gp 08, i liked the whole 125, 250, moto gp career path but thought it was a little to short with not a whole lot of action to it! so these are the thing i'd like to see personally!

Top Priority
1) More editing ability to the bike it self (Different Number Styles!!!!)
2) Podiums
3) Online Championships!

Very Important
1) Like before More Editing Abilitys!! maybe to helmets and leathers aswell
2) More Bike Damage and Rider Health
3) Maybe at the end of a season, instead of just you changing teams, other riders change teams aswell!!

Would be nice to have
1) An Option to manage a team instead of just riding, you take control of team members, sponsership deals, rider deals, etc
2) Create your own team and/or track
3) More Editing Abilities!!

Thats what my views are!!

Jack257
29-03-09, 21:12
I think it would be better if you could make your own team and be able to customize everything from your bike to the rider. I also think you should put trophies on the PS3 version. In Multiplayer we should be able to play as a team, for example 2 players to a team and you get to race against other teams of 2.

I also think the graphics could be better or improved.

And maybe before the main menu you could have an area of some kind, where you could race round a random track. A bit like FIFA but with motor bikes.

Could any body give hints to when the demo is due to be released or the actually game.

age 92
09-04-09, 13:22
in moto gp 09 i believe they should have tyre weare .. and also they should have an option of choosing duel compund tyres. the riding position should slitley change and the upper body should be more off the bike rather than the lower part of the body.internal gears sohould be interchangeable and there should be more options on final gear ratios.there should also be more riders in the field. and it should be more competetive becuase at philip island i am 4 seconds a lap quicker then the rest of the field on champion mode with siumulation on. also the game keeps having faults. once i played it and all the riders were dressed up as valentino rossi. lap times are not realistic either they need to be more long .. at philip island the current race record is a 1.28.6 set by casey stoner at the 2008 australian motogp. when i play it i do 1.19.95 on playstation 2 which is an outstanding time yes i agree but it needs to be more realistic. i also do 1.29.35 on a 125 at phillip island. graphics also need to improve. thanks guys..


also guys you should introduce data logging. and front and rrear suspension adjustment rather than just stupid things like fast or slow turning, i mean thats just fucken plain stupid. sum ******** that knows jack **** about bikes made that. what you need to do is talk to me. u have my email. im am accesable for help if needed
. just send me an email n i would be glad to help.

oh and also. the 2 stroke categories such as 125 and 250's need to have higher pitched engines. and the 2 stroke powerband needs to be more noticed. also there should be a controller to set up the r/c powervales. also damage should be more realistic. and also one thing i really fucken hate, why is it wen ur up another bikes ass racing n wen u bump eachother its all ways us that gets fucked rather than the other dickhed riding that hits ya ok. n wen they run off they get straight back on the track and if u run of its a fucken wurl ewind of fucken disaster. ok.

regards adrian.

Luke27d
15-04-09, 15:19
Top Priority
1)Bike and rider damage-if you have a crash, the bike should get damaged (ie. debris on the track and bike looks damaged) and the rider should get injured(depending on how bad the crash is).Also, rather than glitching back on the bike, the rider should have to run over to the bike, pick it up and hope its still running!
2)Team Manager Mode-it would be really good to have a mode where you can buy bikes, hire riders,get a sponsorship deal and manage your team for a few seasons.
3)Trackside Details-the crowds should be more realistic(airhorns etc.) and when you go down pitlane, there should be pit crews,officials etc. There should be marshalls around the track waving the flags and helping riders that have fallen.There should be a safety car on the grid at the start of the race and after the race there should be a podium ceremony.
4)Splitscreen multiplayer-it would be great if you could play two player offline against your friends or if you could have both players on the same team competing in a full championship.

Very Important
1)Release date- Try to release the game as soon as possible,not at the end of the season when it is out of date.
2)Commentary-There should be commentary during the race or during the replay.
3)Changing weather-It would be more exciting if the weather changed mid-race and you could switch bikes.

Would be nice
1)Showboating-it would be nice to be able to do stand-up wheelies etc. at the end of the race
2)Tyre wear-The game would be better with tyre wear because you would have to make a decision to use a harder compound of tyre.
3)Make lap times more realistic.

ukacredsmall6
28-04-09, 21:49
hi Tenebra (http://www.capcom-europe.com/forum/member.php?u=22499)

well what do you know it 2009 and the gp season has started and still no news of a release date for MotoGP 09 or any extra help for all the unfortunates who had bought there previous products.

yours UkacRedsmall6

ROCKGOD01
01-05-09, 22:32
1. Get the physics right. No fake powersliding and cutting corners to enhance lap times.

2. Bike handling and how the power is translated to the ground. SBK is pretty decent. But not really correct.

3.Bike adjustments online and offline that translate seamlessly. Brakes NEED TO WORK PROPERLY! If anything you should dial them down instead of up. Gears and the things SBK and old GP games gave us. We need DLC for new parts like real GP riders get on a weekly basis. Bikes in GP change from week to week and really are not the same.

4.Unlockables are candy instead of the meat but are fun. Old riders, bikes, tracks,etc. Why the heck not? Make a dlc pack for purchase if necessary.

5. Custom liveries were a MONUMENTAL idea since we don't want 12 Rossi's on the track at the same time. Can't tell where you are in the pack. Plus the ability to completely customize the HUD. Names on/off etc.

6.SOUNDS!!! Not a one has gotten it right. Just have people record the real bikes on a dyno if necessary and then translate it to the game. THat is visceral at its best. Plus controller vibration on the track as well as when you run off.

7. Online you need the championship modes with points. That is fun and keeps it intresting. LIke the climax versions had, brilliant!

8. Commentator mode where the host can set a room member as the commentator. That was amazingly fun.

9. Make sure the bikes are similar but not really unbalanced in terms of one being so great vs. another. The Duc and the Yam at present are the best bikes out there. Honda being next then we all if you watch the real sport know what happend to Kawi. They are now Hayate. This is very important. Get the HP ratings right cause I can't stand like the old GP game where the worst bike was the best for some reason. Get this right please!!!

10. Make me a beta tester cause experience wise I have game and real world.

11. Understand we are a fiercly passionate group. We may be a niche' but if the game is awesome and solid it won't be a niche' very long.

12. OMG alomst forgot. THis game needs to be able to be played by EVERYONE in whatever country they are living in online with anyone everywhere. I miss my friends!!!

V.Rossi
02-05-09, 20:19
Unlimited seasons in MotoGP 08 ! ;D

and when i pass some riders and when i touch them my bike is bumping :O this is not good .... :P

motogpgoat
07-05-09, 15:21
Let me say first of all that Milestone/Capcom have made the best bike racing simulation yet. So, thanks! Although it's a great game, these are the improvements I'd like to see in the 09 game:

The engine sounds are RUBBISH! Climax/THQ (finally) made a great job of engine sounds in their last effort (but the game play & physics were still bad).

The 250's sound like a 600cc roadbike! the Motogp bikes don't sound like a V4 or Cross-plane crank in-line engines used in motogp at all. The sound on over-run (closed throttle) was excellent in Climax's last effort and really adds to the realism. Please sort this! Also, the closed throttle 'flash' from the motogp bike exhaust is far too yellow and not translucent enough - needs to be more blue and not so opaque. It is useful though, to spot braking points.

Currently, you cannot choose your grid position for quick race, or save your replays - please sort this too!

The angle of lean and rider position is still too limited - if you watch the way that the riders hang off the bike, their knee skims the track and their proximity of elbow to road surface is close - this can be made more realistic.

The tucked in rider position, on the straights is still not tucked in enough.
Needs changing.

When the bike wheelies, the rider moves back in the seat - you would only do this to provoke a wheelie, but on a motogp bike you'd be doing the opposite - putting more weight over the front to keep the front end down.
Needs changing!

Bike collision damage option - the bike needs to fragment & deform in crashes - bits flying off. Maybe the odd one catching fire too!

Hayden69Stoner27
16-05-09, 20:29
Just got back to playing motogp 08 again here are a few things again that I think could be improved

Before race
(Practice & Qualifying Time) Currently free practice is unlimited and qualifying is 5 mins. make it able so you can adjust times from 5 mins to full 1 hour.
(Bike Setup) Keep the + & - setting for novice users but add advanced settings like in motogp 07.
(Tyre Choice) I've only ever used soft tyres cos of better grip and they last the whole race so why the need for hard or medium?

During:
(Off The line) All you do is hold RT lights out away you go. In motogp 07 you would spin the rear tyre doing that, you had to get the bike reving then at right moment as lights went out then hold RT. There was skill in 07 getting a good start.
(Inconsistant AI Times) At Le Mans I did a 1.27.4 in qualifying 1 sec quicker than 2nd (hard mode) however during race when I was doing constant low 1.27s high 1.26's I was down in 8th losing half second a lap to leaders.
(Aggressive AI) The AI has one set line and follows it even if you are in the way. e.g. I slipstream down the straight have the inside line brake later then bang punted from behind or side end up in the gravel. The AI on harder modes turns a lot tighter and faster even when they run off track.
(Controls) Brakes are too sharp you can be braking then for a corner then all of a sudden you nearly stop there is no smoothness in the brakes.
(Damage) Damage is needed and riders to get injured this is present in WSBK games.

I could go on for ages but there is a few things to look at.....oh I'm a Nicky Hayden fan and I know he was on a repsol honda last year but 3 days after I bought the game he was testing the ducati. So the game was already out of date 3 days after release.

V.Rossi
19-05-09, 13:15
Yes 1 hour practice and qualify, advanced setup bike, this is good idea.
1. I'd like to see reversed track for fans (us :P),
2. bike damage and riders injurned.
3. ulnimited seasons like in MotoGP 07, I think this is good idea.
4. Riders bio, statistics, and carrer driver statistic save like riders in MotoGP.
5. Fuel and Tire consumption.
6. Maybe pre-season test (better for realism like in real MotoGP :P )
7. Multiplayer on the same PC, you known split screen ;)

In this time I think that was all from me :) Capcom you give us very good game thank you :)

carsrob
07-06-09, 20:40
top priority.

Two player championship split screen mode, non off this bull online multyplayer mode, whats the reason for not having a two player offline mode, is it to sell more consoles n games making people go online for two player, or to stop pepole chipping consoles and not needing online to play two players, no excuses in this day n age for a two player mode championship, I'm bored of moto gp 07 now, (still best engines compared to capcoms and the latest sbk 08 and 09 sorry...)

Would like.

The game to come out somewhere in between the season that the bike design and rider leathers match the ones in the real moto gp season, games have a habit of being released after the season has finished, could there not be an update online for the latest bikes and leathers at an extra price to match the next seasons gp bikes also.


Would be good.

When on two player championship mode the ability to use the other players career bike and not be barred from doing so like in moto gp 07. Both players allowed to use the same bike.

Ion Blaster4
18-06-09, 03:15
Top Priorties
1)IMPROVED CRASHING! Wow, the crashing isnt good at all. I really did expect better. I want to see like the guys like flying around and debri flying off the bikes and the people waving yellow flags with people coming out to help you get your bike back up and running to go after a placing. The tires should also be improved so you can like come in for pits. Also, the bikes where indestructible plastic. They felt like plastic and they crashed like plastic. I did a fly once and my bike landed in middle of the track and hit into bye like 3 other people and still flying and hit the ground then it said "motogp" And there wasnt a dent in my bike to begin with.
2.)Party! I would like to like have the flag put on my guys back and drive around laying rubber on the track infront of my "Fans". Would be really cool if we could spray champagne too.
3.) More then just crossing the line first. I wanna be able to hire people and stuff and upgrade in a more advanced way. I dont want "points" to tell what team i should be in. Thats boring. I want to see how i am driving impress them, thats like coming in 15th 1100 times in 125cc, and Ducati is like "We wanna hire you!" Maybe like how much you crash and your wins and stuff.
4) Injuries! If you crash out and fly off your bike and land on your head and wrists, but your bike is fine, its like kinda dumb because youve broken bones yet your still in the race. Possibly medical fines. And you have to miss races after a crash. This will prevent crashing into people to send them out of the lead of the championship which i have done to Rossi and Simoncelli.


Kind of priorties.
1) Better multiplayer. Maybe we could actually have championships and stuff and people arent flashing everywhere and jumping like bunnies like I have seen. It would also be cool to see pits in multiplayer too.
2.) A communication system. I do know there are no mics or ways for the rider to respond in real motogp, but it would be cool if there are guys putting out white boards with writing on it saying what to do. What be a cool touch.
3) When you come into pits, its not a waste of time. I actually want to see garages open and possibly drive into your garage during free practice to improve things and test out things.
4) More realistic! It would be cool if the driving was more realistic so it made it feel like you were really on a bike. Tire and fuel use would be cool too.
5)Split screen! I would really like to race again my brother and friends instead of on Xbox live. Split screen also would be cool.
6)Challenges could be alot more creative then Get dani to win the race, which is almost impossible in real life.

Obviously you would get to choose this stuff, so after you get checked it would say :Victory lap?" Yes and no, so you dont have to do it. And same with having to get up and get to your bike with your guy when you crash and people coming out and getting in the way when you can do it by yourself really.

Well i cant wait up for 09/10! Yah i go to Motogp.com everyday. :P