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ManiacFather
11-09-08, 13:23
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7609780.stm


An extremely rare female frog has been spotted for the first time in 20 years.

The tiny tree frog, Isthmohyla rivularis, was seen in Costa Ricas Monteverde Cloud Forest Preserve.

This species was thought to have become extinct two decades ago, but last year a University of Manchester researcher caught a glimpse of a male.

However, the discovery of the female and more males suggests this species is breeding and has been able to survive where many other frogs have not.

Andrew Gray, a herpetologist from Manchester Museum at the University of Manchester, said: This has been the highlight of the whole of my career.

Now that we know that both sexes exist in the wild, we should intensify efforts to understand their ecology and further their conservation.

The BBC has been following the team from the University of Manchester and Chester Zoo that is working on amphibian conservation programmes

The BBC video of the frog is the first-known footage of this species.

The 2.5cm-long female, which was released after the discovery, was brown with metallic green speckles and was packed full of eggs.

A difficult task

Finding female frogs is extremely difficult; males make a distinctive call but females are silent for most of the time.

And tracking down this particular species in a great expanse of rainforest was even more difficult - the team had few clues about where the frogs might be, and the search could only take place at night.

The team trekked deep into the forest to a spot close to where the male Isthmohyla rivularis was spotted last year.

The researchers first discovered another male from its soft insect-like call.

The conservationists then trained their torches on the undergrowth, and eventually Luis Obando, head of park maintenance at Monteverdes Tropical Science Center, found the tiny female, which was sitting on a leaf.

Mr Gray told the BBC: It is hard to describe just how unlikely it was to have discovered a female of this particular species.

The only time you ever come across a female is by chance - and it is only once in a blue moon that they come down to lay their eggs. You really have to be in the right place at the right time.

You could come out here every night for a year and not see a thing.

I really think that this time we have had luck on our side.

The discovery of both sexes of this species has given the researchers hope that this population may be surviving against the odds.

Mr Gray explained: Last year, when we saw the male, we had no idea whether this was one of the last few remaining male specimens of this species.

But now we have found the female, there is hope that the species may recover.

It still seems that these critically endangered creatures are on the very brink of extinction - and although we have been intensively searching the streams all through the night, it appears that the density of the population is precarious.

The researchers swabbed the frogs before they were released to see if they are carrying the chytrid fungus - a disease thought to have killed of many other species in this area.

They also used a spectrometer to look at the properties of the frogs skin to try to find out why this species has survived where others have not.

It is imperative for the future conservation of Costa Rican amphibians that collaborative efforts harness the skills of biologists, researchers, educators and committed individuals, if we are to save these rare species, Mr Gray added.

Spike 74
11-09-08, 13:26
thats so tiney.

Tenebra
11-09-08, 13:51
It seems to have such a contented expression :d

Ryuu's_Ghost
11-09-08, 13:55
Are they edible?

Spike 74
11-09-08, 14:16
Are they edible?

Why? Want to see if it will send you high lol

Ryuu's_Ghost
11-09-08, 14:43
No I just want super rare meat.

ManiacFather
11-09-08, 20:16
^ Im here for you. My meat is freshh.
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Here is a pic of our tasty girl:
http://mclus.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/irivularis.jpg

Ryuu's_Ghost
11-09-08, 20:46
Very ummm, jucy a tasteful girl indeed.

seth ranson
11-09-08, 22:12
@Ryu s Ghost: How come that you want to eat weird animals? (You wanted to eat squirrels before too)


This has been the highlight of the whole of my career.

That somehow makes me sad. Such a pointless thing is the highlight of his career...
That s what I thought first.
Then I tried to think of something that s not pointless...

(not again...)

Ryuu's_Ghost
11-09-08, 22:55
@Ryus Ghost: How come that you want to eat weird animals? (You wanted to eat squirrels before too.)

How are frogs weird? I also want to try honey ants dipped in chocolate and buffalo steaks but those are pricey atm.

seth ranson
11-09-08, 23:01
Ants dipped in chocolate aren t pricey. I wonder if you ll ever really try one of these things.

Ryuu's_Ghost
11-09-08, 23:04
Honey ants are pricey because they are an exotic food.

seth ranson
11-09-08, 23:09
Wait a minute, seems like I overread the honey in that sentence. What s a honey ant?

Tenebra
11-09-08, 23:10
This has been the highlight of the whole of my career.

That somehow makes me sad. Such a pointless thing is the highlight of his career...
That s what I thought first.
Then I tried to think of something that s not pointless...

(not again...)
Youre kidding me. Finding a creature that was thought to be extinct...fine, its a frog and not a dinosaur but size doesnt matter. There are lots of things I aspire to achieve but nothing will match that, or discovering penicillin.

seth ranson
11-09-08, 23:14
Then I tried to think of something that s not pointless...
@Tenebra: Sorry, but did you read this sentence?

Ryuu's_Ghost
11-09-08, 23:20
Wait a minute, seems like I overread the honey in that sentence. Whats a honey ant?

Its a species of ant that accumulates sugars in its abdomen I think its native to australia they dip the abdomens in chocolate and eat em. Think of the lulz when a girl eats one then you tell her that it was a bug.

Tenebra
11-09-08, 23:37
Then I tried to think of something that s not pointless...
@Tenebra: Sorry, but did you read this sentence?

I did, but the greatness of what the guy achieved is just beyond words I still had to have a go at you. You know I like you, I just get overwhelmed by things like these.

seth ranson
11-09-08, 23:44
Ok...

Hey, by the way, discovering dinosaurs would still be ...um, less pointless... size doesn t really matter, but time does. At least somehow...
Or maybe I m just jealous...

Dante2014
12-09-08, 00:22
Size doesnt matter, something tiny like a frog could yield miracles for medical sciences, fill in parts of natural history and maybe even evolution.

seth ranson
12-09-08, 00:32
Still it would certainly be more impressive if someone found a dinosaur today. Don t you think so?

(cool, the weird feeling is almost gone)


edit:
By the way, about this:

fill in parts of natural history and maybe even evolution
It s not like this is some leftover from ancient times like this shark that was found alive some time ago.

Dante2014
12-09-08, 01:31
It may very well be, who knows? a minor contribution of knowledge from it could have major implications for the future, surely its better to find something that can provide very little rather than not finding anything at all.

seth ranson
12-09-08, 02:04
Of course, the frog could be the source for a cure for cancer (but so could a dinosaur by the way), but that s still not making the frog important, because it COULD be. There are hundreds of plants and animals that are still unknown, any of these could be imporant.

Dante2014
12-09-08, 03:12
But thats what im saying, they discovered SOMETHING, thats surely better than spending several hours on a dig and finding nothing new, right?

seth ranson
12-09-08, 03:25
A... dig? So that s what you meant... I was not really thinking about the skeleton of a dinosaur... (looks like i should go to bed now)

Dante2014
12-09-08, 03:34
Oh, I get it, you meant a real living dinosaur:lol:

Then I must agree, that would be far more significant.

seth ranson
12-09-08, 03:43
I thought we were talking about animals that are considered extinct, but are then found by someone, so I didn t know you were talking about fossils.

(I m off now, good night, if you ever intend to sleep)