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Carbonox_Ratchet
20-10-09, 12:54
http://twitter.com/SEGA/status/5015107581

Wut.

Before I start, I'd like to point out that I do not want to see a string of replies along the lines of, "reviews mean nothing to me, etc. etc.".

Anyway...

Now, I've been anticipating the release of this game since the day it was announced. Hideki Kamiya is arguably one of my favourite and one of the most talented guys in the biz.

For those unaware, he created Devil May Cry, directed Resident Evil 2, Okami and other projects at Capcom. Now he's at Platinum Games with the likes of other industry bigwigs such as Shinji Mikami (RE God <3).

Yet I was extremely surprised to see Famitsu award Bayonetta 40/40. Only a handful of games have EVER got 40/40.

I've always been of the mindset that Bayonetta will be the first big evolution in the Action genre since Devil May Cry 3 and I still stand by that. The demo was superb and had as much depth on its own as most full Action games released so far. The potential for this game is astounding.

While I am surprised and somewhat pleased to see that this game is as good as the director helming it (and his experience and legacy behind him), I'm also curious to see how other Japanese publications take to it, as opposed to how Western publications and sites take to it.

In reference to my line about commenting on review importance, reviews had no say in my purchase of the game, let's get that straight. I'm sure some of you here already knew that I was a big fan of this game.

Anywho, other thoughts? Surprised by the perfect score?

CaptainCortez
20-10-09, 17:44
Well, I'm a little surprised at the score, as realistically I couldn't give any game a 10/10 equivalent score, as nothing is perfect.

There are games which play ok, games which play pretty well, and then there are the triple a title games which not only play amazingly awesome, but also have a huge amount of depth, great storyline, and now due to the expectations of gamers all around the world; lush and detailed graphics for not only the characters, but also the environments.

I was interested in this as soon as I heard it was announced, for probably the very same reason many other gamers got excited over it.........the team who are actually behind it.

Devil May Cry 1 is most probably my favourite game of all time. Nothing really beats it to me, not even with games that look as good as say Killzone 2, Gears of War 2, or even soon to be out; Aliens Versus Predator.

However, knowing the Devil May Cry creator was behind it, along with Shinji Mikami, and ex-team Clover, Bayonetta has a lot of potential.

After playing the demo, not only did I really enjoy it, but I could see there was a lot of depth there, and a lot of hard work has gone into the game.

Sadly for me, the demo was in Black and White, due to not owning a HDTV, yet surprisingly the game still played really nice, and even though there was no colour, it still looked amazingly good, and all of the actions transition into one another almost effortlessly.

It's good to know that Bayonetta has been given such a good score, and hopefully the majority of us will feel the same way about it, come it's release.

Looks pretty slick anyway. Should be a good one to own! Looking forward to it, cheers for the thread Carbonox. ;)

itsmyyard
20-10-09, 18:07
I trust Famitsu, so if they say its good, its gotta be good! lol

JDK
20-10-09, 18:54
40/40 is amazing but then the demo was god like, if only i knew someone reliable in japan i would import this in a second, guess ill just have to wait until january like everyone else :-(

green51q
20-10-09, 20:58
i will definetally be getting this game if it is so highly thought of by such a mastermind!

however, CaptainCortez is right, there is no such thing as a perfect score for a perfect game. take call of duty 4 for example. it was rated 10/10 by the official playstation magazine but Cod4 is by NO MEANS PERFECT!
i spent (i am not joking) 35 minutes waiting for it to "download game settings" JUST so i could play online!

but back on topic, i have huge expectations for bayonetta and will probably play it until my eyes melt. :facepalm:

SILENTKILLER
20-10-09, 23:57
40/40 :D When i played the Demo i was thinkin " Im sooo gettin this, its much better then DMC "..... so i pre-ordered the japanese PS3 version ^^ 8 days to go :) +/- the import time, i hope they send it earlier so i get it on release ^^

Browniemc
21-10-09, 02:32
40/40 :D When i played the Demo i was thinkin " Im sooo gettin this, its much better then DMC "..... so i pre-ordered the japanese PS3 version ^^ 8 days to go :) +/- the import time, i hope they send it earlier so i get it on release ^^

Well, I am sorry for this, but I either hope Sega (or Kotaku) is talking nonsense about the region-lock or either you own a japanese ps3.

Woodlandbunny
21-10-09, 10:58
Wow, brilliant score. I can't wait for this game to come out; definitely a release day buy. The demo was absolutely brilliant, I loved it! :D

SILENTKILLER
21-10-09, 12:53
Well, I am sorry for this, but I either hope Sega (or Kotaku) is talking nonsense about the region-lock or either you own a japanese ps3.

Every single PS3 game is region free, this wont change.

Carbonox_Ratchet
21-10-09, 15:50
Actually, PS3 games are region-free if the developer chooses it. It's not a default feature of every game.

In the case of Bayonetta, it IS region-lcoked.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175774

JoaoPT
21-10-09, 17:18
:mad: Stupid region lock.:yell:

SILENTKILLER
21-10-09, 19:21
Actually, PS3 games are region-free if the developer chooses it. It's not a default feature of every game.

In the case of Bayonetta, it IS region-lcoked.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175774

.... So ill have to stop my pre-ordering :mad: Its *curse word* annoying what they do, protect sales ? Wheres the problem if people import and pay or wait and pay the same price ....

charmed699
21-10-09, 22:08
Oh Bayonetta, you make the archangels weep,
With those shiny quadruple guns of yours,
The butterflies come out of you after a leap,
And you have lots of killers poses!

The demo was quality for the game and that was just a short segment!It is a shame we have to wait for so long, but on the bright side it will arrive.I can certainly see why it deserves the perfect score... :)

SILENTKILLER
02-11-09, 18:27
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-%22bayonetta%22-70-3hjd.html

"NO Region Protection"

And they r 99% correct.

II ARROWS
02-11-09, 20:12
40/40 these days means nothing...

They gave 40/40 to Nintendogs, Final Fantasy XII, Metal Gear Solid 4, Super Smash Bros. Brawl...

Carbonox_Ratchet
02-11-09, 21:12
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-%22bayonetta%22-70-3hjd.html

"NO Region Protection"

And they r 99% correct.

Yeah, until the game was released, SEGA pretty much said that the game was region-locked (the link I posted above shows that it was stated as such). I'm sure they're not stupid enough to think that people wouldn't have imported to see for themselves, heh. But going by those who have imported, they've had no trouble on their PS3's.

Dante2014
03-11-09, 05:34
Well, I've played it and surprisingly, I didn't like it as much as one would think, being a DMC fan and all...

The whole "sexy" thing bothers me, I understand that she is effectively a temptress of sorts but, with games like DMC there is no claim that the character you play is the hero, he just takes it upon himself to put things right and theres something liberating in that, but when she is constantly putting out it appears obnoxious and somewhat arrogant, so points off her character for that one.

The action is something we've all seen before, they've just altered it around her abilities, the ability to pick up weapons is something nice and refreshing, but they're doing something thats been mastered before with the only appeal of fighting original monsters.

In short, I completely lost interest during the demo, If it ever hits the UK i'll probably pick it up for £20, nothing more.

II ARROWS
03-11-09, 13:24
So, you don't recomend it to a Devil May Cry fan? :eek:

I tought it can be the first action game that can compete with DMC... :blink: The others are all simplier and/or slower.

SILENTKILLER
03-11-09, 14:11
I tought it can be the first action game that can compete with DMC... :blink:

Compete ? Clearly beats DMC if u ask me, faster, better, cooler.

Dante2014
03-11-09, 15:21
So, you don't recomend it to a Devil May Cry fan? :eek:

I tought it can be the first action game that can compete with DMC... :blink: The others are all simplier and/or slower.

Well, thats just my opinion on it, I'm not fond of God of War or Heavenly Sword either, its probably because I can see a bit of variety in things like Ninja Gaiden and a handful of other slashers, I see very little variety in Bayonetta, maybe its just because its the demo? I don't know really.

Compete ? Clearly beats DMC if u ask me, faster, better, cooler.
-Hits Silentkiller with a rolled up news paper-

II ARROWS
03-11-09, 18:50
I tried God of War II on advanced levels... it's really simple and very slow, Heavenly Sword is simple too.

Same with Ninja Gaiden, I didn't tried it but everyone I asked about it said that is simple compared to Devil May Cry 4. They also said it's buggy.

SILENTKILLER
03-11-09, 19:04
Well, thats just my opinion on it, I'm not fond of God of War or Heavenly Sword either, its probably because I can see a bit of variety in things like Ninja Gaiden and a handful of other slashers, I see very little variety in Bayonetta, maybe its just because its the demo? I don't know really.


-Hits Silentkiller with a rolled up news paper-

Haha :D Well, bayonetta has more moves, they look better, gameplay is faster and its more fun. DMC is just an old series which didnt improve well lately, bayonetta is a fresh new game and better imo. I do like DMC but 4 was just bad.

Gman707
03-11-09, 19:34
I thought dmc 4 was quite good actually. i enjoyed the way dante and nero bounced off each other.

Carbonox_Ratchet
03-11-09, 20:25
Bayonetta is the stylish action progression that DMC4 should have been, despite DMC4 being a solid game. However, DMC will need a bit of a shake up ala Devil May Cry 3 for it to compete in the future.

Despite being my favourite franchise, Devil May Cry needs a bit of a kick up the backside and not go down the route of DMC4 that was plagued by horrible design choices (backtracking, etc.) and a vague storyline. I guess the DMC4 novel helped establish a bit more in terms of Nero's origins (and ties to Vergil) but more is needed in the future.

So let Bayonetta be the level of standards that Capcom should look at and look over, rather than them carrying on down the same route and effectively going under these standards.

Dante2014
04-11-09, 10:39
Keep in mind what Famitsu also gave a 40 to.... O RLY? (click it) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendogs#Reception)

Haha :D Well, bayonetta has more moves, they look better, gameplay is faster and its more fun. DMC is just an old series which didnt improve well lately, bayonetta is a fresh new game and better imo. I do like DMC but 4 was just bad.

I wouldn't say 4 was bad, it was really just more of the same, DMC3 was a hell of a leap from DMC2, it was far more fluid, had plenty of variety and is probably my favourite, bar the irrational DMC1 nostalgia, the thing about Bayonetta is that it has combinations that are hard to recall, most of which I'm not going to use, DMC kept it simple in the respect that you'd use certain moves on occasion as a reflex, there's no way I could memorise all those moves for the right time, it's probably why I suck at fighting games. :stretcher:

Bayonetta is the stylish action progression that DMC4 should have been, despite DMC4 being a solid game. However, DMC will need a bit of a shake up ala Devil May Cry 3 for it to compete in the future.

I Agree with you there, I'm not denying its something different or interesting, I just don't really consider it my kind of game to be honest, maybe it's just lacking the things I enjoy... Manly things... like ninjas...

Despite being my favourite franchise, Devil May Cry needs a bit of a kick up the backside and not go down the route of DMC4 that was plagued by horrible design choices (backtracking, etc.) and a vague storyline. I guess the DMC4 novel helped establish a bit more in terms of Nero's origins (and ties to Vergil) but more is needed in the future.

Yeah, that was probably the biggest let down of DMC4, the fact that they did very little with Nero's new combo system and reused Dante's old combat system was the icing on the cake, I still play and enjoy it, but more as an update rather than an outright sequel, since my PS3 has no backwards compatibility and all.

So let Bayonetta be the level of standards that Capcom should look at and look over, rather than them carrying on down the same route and effectively going under these standards.

It is a quality game from what I've seen of it, once again, I say its not my kind of game, it feels like a weird hybrid of Capcom and Square-Enix by what I'm feeling off of it, there's plenty of DMC inspiration in there too, but its really just the protagonist and the general theme of it that bothers me so much.

Carbonox_Ratchet
06-11-09, 19:14
http://i38.tinypic.com/20zs3eu.jpg

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

day zero purchase incominggggggg. <3

thezombiemessia
06-11-09, 19:22
Is that a soundtrack or DVD?

Carbonox_Ratchet
06-11-09, 19:53
I believe it's a soundtrack. A 5 disc soundtrack to do with the game is being readied for release and as with most soundtracks, their corresponding game releases see special soundtrack selections in the CE versions.

charmed699
06-11-09, 20:07
You look excited Carbon, let me tuck you in! :D

The soundtrack was released on the 4th November in Japan. I got it on its way from play-asia, that sent it on the 3rd, so fingers crossed it will come next week.

The theme for it is so catchy that I just constantly listen to it non stop. I will certainly be getting that edition come January!There seems to be a lot of small details paying homage to SEGA games in it too, like music(Outrun,etc.

James Mitchell
06-11-09, 22:20
Waiting for the localisation, but yeah, the PS3 version is definitely region free.

Though also, Famitsu scores aren't the best indicators. Games that pay well get good scores, that's always how it has been with the Japanese media.

Jarlino
10-11-09, 14:24
Carbo, you better not have imported the Japanese edition yet,
because a special limited edition got announced for the EU only so far. ;)
(Though without the five soundtrack CD's.)

Article below:

Sega of Europe revealed a new offering for PAL gamers who are way into Bayonetta (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/Bayonetta/), but not so way into Bayonetta that they're already buying the crazy five-disc soundtrack (http://platinumgames.com/tag/bayonetta-soundtrack/) from Japan. The Bayonetta special edition, announced for release in the UK, Spain, France, and Australia, includes a single soundtrack disc, along with a hardcover art book. It'll be released alongside the regular edition of the game on January 8 (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/29/bayonettas-nonstop-climax-action-starts-january-5/).

Sega of America has yet to announce a special edition of Bayonetta, but we won't be shocked when the company does decide to pick up the extra money generated by such a release.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/11/bayonetta1110.jpg

I'm not interested in this game, AT ALL, and Bayonetta's voice actress makes me want to beat people with a dead cat, so I'm not buying it, just gonna borrow it from someone else eventually, but I figured some would appreciate me posting it here. ;)

Dante2014
10-11-09, 14:26
-Revives Carbonox from a catatonic state-

Carbonox_Ratchet
10-11-09, 15:27
Carbo, you better not have imported the Japanese edition yet,
because a special limited edition got announced for the EU only so far. ;)
(Though without the five soundtrack CD's.)

Article below:

I'm not interested in this game, AT ALL, and Bayonetta's voice actress makes me want to beat people with a dead cat, so I'm not buying it, just gonna borrow it from someone else eventually, but I figured some would appreciate me posting it here. ;)

Yeah I posted an image of the CE a few posts up from yours. I'm definitely holding off importing now, especially with the game due to release in under 2 months.

I've been doing a bit of reading up on some of the game's quotes and all you Capcom fanboys/fangirls will be pleasantly surprised by some of the Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 4, etc. references. ;P

GAME OF THE FOREVER.

Browniemc
10-11-09, 19:17
I finished the game yesterday evening and personally I don't think it's worth 40/40. The game is fun and has some unexpected moments but I think it could be balanced some more. Also I found it resembles dmc4 a bit too much story-wise and sometimes design-wise. Plus, whois going to tell Bayonetta she's not sexy!! Like stated before there is too much 'sexy' in it.

I am glad I played the game on easy first so I can play it at least 2 more times for unlocking things and what not.

If you ask me if it's worth importing, imo it doesn't live up the hype, so wait until it gets released here, or get a little bit dissapointed.

CaptainCortez
11-11-09, 18:36
Ah, I got beaten posting a pic of Bayonetta's supposed collectors edition. :/

It's not really much of one, and just really throws in an artbook and soundtrack with the game. Could be a lot better than this, but supposedly it's not likely to be any more than the normal edition, so most people will, or should go for this.

The artwork really just looks like it's going to be a series of Rendered images, and not actual hand drawn artwork, which is a shame.

The Devil May Cry 4 artbook was kinda cool, as you can see idea's of how the characters could have looked, in a semi hand drawn/digitally coloured style.

Carbonox_Ratchet
11-11-09, 18:47
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/11/bayonetta-climax-360.jpg

Australia get THIS.

*dies*

CaptainCortez
11-11-09, 18:57
I might have wanted a pink gun. :(

RagingAvatar
12-11-09, 09:05
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/11/bayonetta-climax-360.jpg

Australia get THIS.

*dies*

Anyone know where I can import this?

charmed699
12-11-09, 09:32
Hello Raging,

Please keep an eye on cdwow as it had the Australian only Bang Bang limited edition for pre order. It should have this edition for Bayonetta too for preorder, so give it a try.

http://www.cdwow.com/search?q=bayonetta&t=games

One of the £49.49 priced games on this list could be it, but without proper description added yet...

Carbonox_Ratchet
21-11-09, 17:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdQAHbS9c44

X.X

Some quotes from EDGE's 10/10 review. Courtesy of NeoGaf.

Review calls the platinum brawler "flawless" and "the kind of game you dream of playing

- "From start to finish its intricate and intuitive fighting system is a masterclass, and it even finds time to reclaim vehicle levels. This is about as good as it gets," the magazine says."

- A thirdperson action game from the same school as Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta has just memorised the best bits and burned down the building, its combination of seamless animation, sensory cues and riotous imagination setting a new standard."

- Edge says the combat system "breaks new ground" and the story is "funny", but also finds time to be tender in places.

- It's a beautiful and graceful fighting game that lets imagination loose, and winks before slapping Dante, Kratos and every other hero back to the drawing board."

charmed699
21-11-09, 19:01
The 5th of January seems so far away!At least I can play the soundtrack until that glorious day arrives.

Music spoilers:

There's even SEGA music from other games in the soundtrack!But the proper theme is not on it, which is a shame.

End

JDK
21-11-09, 19:16
is it the five disc one you got off play asia diogo?

That pink gun looks smexy, still i wouldnt be suprised if its horrid quality like the batman baterang that came with the arkham special edition. Either way i can see some cosplayers buying 4 copys just so they can have the whole set :blink:

Carbonox_Ratchet
21-11-09, 19:18
Cellotaped to their boots.

My new cosplay idea to replace my Transformers idea. GET!

charmed699
21-11-09, 19:23
It is that one and those 5 disks are top quality!You know that I can't resist a mix of SEGA music and a quality Ninja Gaiden like action game! :D

I would so get 4 guns and go around shooting anything.Actualy, one of those incredible stunt acrobats, could probably pull it off. I once saw this guy dressed as Spider Man, when the 3rd movie came out on DVD, and he was pretty flexible!

Quick photo I took on monday to show someone:

http://www.blueherogaming.co.uk/naughtysoundtrack.jpg

JDK
21-11-09, 19:30
transformers idea? do tell please? ;-p

Edit: @Diogo wow im so going to pester you to let me rip those on my laptop next time and EVERY time i see you in future!

Carbonox_Ratchet
21-11-09, 19:49
I've seen videos of people who have created Transformers costumes that can actually change in to a car (not real but all the parts join together well to form a box car of sorts). Haha. Absolute and epic win.

But now the horrendous idea of me dressing up as Bayonetta with the Scarborough Fair guns idea is trying to vye for that top spot. D:

Gman707
21-11-09, 20:00
Not really relevent to the last few posts but Bayonetta also scored 10/10 in edge which means this must really be a good game (or that it's GTA IV but i'm sure rockstar must pay for those good reviews). cant wait for it to come out. glad platinum games have returned to their clover hey day instead of producing more repetitive drivel like madworld.

II ARROWS
22-11-09, 00:04
- It's a beautiful and graceful fighting game that lets imagination loose, and winks before slapping Dante, Kratos and every other hero back to the drawing board.If there is someone that must be slapped back to the drawing board, it's bayonetta... and her stupid "footgun".

Gman707
22-11-09, 07:37
is there anything you do actually like II arrows?

II ARROWS
22-11-09, 11:23
A lot of things... but not fooguns.

Carbonox_Ratchet
22-11-09, 15:12
I played the demo again last night; an absolute rollercoaster from start to finish. I'm trying to limit the media and play time so that I can learn the game itself, rather than going in to it knowing everything from the demo. I do this with Devil May Cry as well, although Devil May Cry is nowhere near as in-depth as this.

Carbonox_Ratchet
23-11-09, 20:29
http://kotaku.com/5410906/bayonetta-demo-drops-next-week

Demo comes out in NA and Europe for both consoles next week. :]

Carbonox_Ratchet
02-12-09, 16:32
http://blogs.sega.com/europe/2009/12/01/bayonetta-pre-order-bonus-breakdown/

Dreaaaaaaaad. I hope the Climax Edition will be released in stores as I hate preordering. Preordering should die in a ditch filled with AIDS-infested needles.

I want the Climax Edition but I want the gun as well. Sigh.

RagingAvatar
02-12-09, 16:47
I saw this last week - and thought this:
'Sega are complete morons.'

This is exactly how to annoy your core fan base - don't let them get their hands on the best possible collector's stuff in one go. <slow clap>

charmed699
02-12-09, 16:48
Don't remind me of that evil Saw movie again Alex! :p

I am conflicted as to which one to buy too as I wanted both items in one edition like the Australian edition. I can't handle or afford two Bayonettas at the same time. :D

In the rare occasion there are some American readers who want to try it a day early, I have some spare 360 demo codes, from my website.

RagingAvatar
02-12-09, 16:49
Was there anywhere we could order the Australian edition?

charmed699
02-12-09, 16:58
Well besides the Australian stores I guess cdwow might do it? This site had the Australian exclusive edition of OVERKILL, but I can't really garantee it.

Anyone going for the gun could try Gameplay too as it is £3 and I think 2nd class post is free.

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=XT1338&title=bayonetta_-_with_pre-order_bonus_replica_gun

Just to think back in the beginning of January 2008 I was eagerly waiting for NiGHTS, and now it is for layd Bayonetta. :)

Carbonox_Ratchet
22-12-09, 16:06
Reviews are starting to flow in now from the UK/US publications/sites:

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1057055p1.html

Score: 9.6

"Bayonetta flies so astonishingly close to perfection. While in essence it’s cast from the same mould as Devil May Cry and the games that followed in its wake, Platinum Games have flourished that template with an imagination that’s impossible not to be charmed by, with Bayonetta’s first five hours enthralling and its latter seven absolutely mesmeric. Indeed, such is the mastery on display here that it’s not Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden or God of War that’s the best point of reference but Super Mario Galaxy, and not just because of that game’s shared taste for turning the world on its head – no other title has astounded us with such a steady stream of escalating wonders. Bayonetta, consider us bewitched."

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177422

Score: A

"So sure, if you look hard enough you can pick at occasional cobwebs from the Devil May Cry school of design, but really, this is as good as action games get. It controls like a dream, is extremely well balanced (not terribly difficult on Normal and incredibly challenging on Hard), has tons of variety, features great retro game references, contains tons of unlockables and challenges to keep you busy after you finish the story, and when it comes down to it, is the best game Sega has published in years."

http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/bayonetta/review/super-review-bayonetta/a-2009122114251985044/g-2008051422211399009

Score: 10/10

"It’s an almost flawless exhibition of gaming greatness, which can effortlessly make even the most ham-fisted of gamers feel like they’ve got elite skills. Bayonetta is already an early contender for GOTY for 2010."

I'm more for the reasons behind the scores, rather than the scores themselves. Gives you a sense of why said person enjoys said game, rather than just pinning a number on anything like a tail on a donkey.

A side-note: If a Mod is reading, I'd appreciate if the thread title can be changed to "The Bayonetta Hype Thread" or something similar, as this has nowt to do with Famitsu's review anymore, as much as it has to do with the game overall and the hype surrounding it. That's if Mods have the ability to edit thread titles.

BAYONETTA GET!

SILENTKILLER
22-12-09, 16:27
Climax Edition will be in stock in various UK online shops. So check ur favorite shop and see if they list it, if not ask em by mail.

Jarlino
22-12-09, 17:20
That's if Mods have the ability to edit thread titles.

Only one of the many, MANY magic tricks we hide under our dainty capes. ;)

Now what can I post here to be on-topic?

Oh yeah, I read some stuff on the Gamefaqs boards, where there's usually a few intelligent people among the haters and fanboys, and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that there's a Space Harrier level in the game. :D

thezombiemessia
22-12-09, 18:54
Just pre-ordered the PS3 Climax Edition from Play.com

It's exactly the same price as the normal version, so I figured "why not?"

samtman
22-12-09, 21:37
from looking at the IGN reviews definatly going for the 360 version they give it

9.6 on 360
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1057055p1.html

8.2 on PS3
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1057012p1.html

problems with slowdown and loading.

greenyxi
23-12-09, 12:11
I really want to buy the PS3 version, as my 360 freezes now and again, when I play disk games. But, looking at the problems with the PS3 version that the 360 version doesn't have...
Having a version that doesn't freeze is still better though than a bit of slowdown, right?

Carbonox_Ratchet
06-01-10, 17:30
Play.com dispatched my CE today but won't be here for 3-5 days which fails. Not long until the game releases, folks! ;P

green51q
06-01-10, 17:40
I really want to buy the PS3 version, as my 360 freezes now and again, when I play disk games. But, looking at the problems with the PS3 version that the 360 version doesn't have...
Having a version that doesn't freeze is still better though than a bit of slowdown, right?

the ps3 version is not that bad!!
i can hardly tell the difference, and besides, it's not like you'll be studying every single detail when you're playing it.
so yes, get the ps3 version if your xbox freezes.

thezombiemessia
06-01-10, 18:02
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-bayonetta/60471?type=flv

Bayonetta Review on GameTrailers. Overall it got a 9.0.

Play have sent off my order, but it'll probably be delayed because of the snow. I'll be amazed if it turns up tomorrow or Friday.

Carbonox_Ratchet
06-01-10, 18:30
Check your email, TZM, they'll give you a rough estimate on when it will come, although I assume 3-5 days is standard as that's the status on mine and many others.

Haradaku
06-01-10, 18:36
from looking at the IGN reviews definatly going for the 360 version they give it

9.6 on 360
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1057055p1.html

8.2 on PS3
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1057012p1.html

problems with slowdown and loading.

If you are still torn just download the demos of each. the difference is night and day. The game looks muddy, has a lower resolution, chugs even when nothing is going on and is jaggy on ps3.

The ps3 demo starts in the second area of the 360 demo, after leaving the train. The frame rate dips even while you are walking to the fight when nothing is even happening. they really dropped the ball with the PS3 port. famitsu, IGN and 1up all did 2 reviews to mark the PS3 one down.

The ps3 demo is longer then the 360 one though so at least it has that but lets just say there is a reason the clock tower scene was cut in the PS3 demo.

If you have both console there really is no excuse not to pick it up on 360. If you only have a PS3 then pick it up since it's the only way to get it and you really wouldn't know how it compares.

It's probably the biggest divide there has been between any PS3/360 game. usually the difference is so insignificant that it didn't matter but the proof is in the demos.

I really hope this snow here doesn't effect my delivery, my copy should be here tomorrow.

thezombiemessia
06-01-10, 19:01
Check your email, TZM, they'll give you a rough estimate on when it will come, although I assume 3-5 days is standard as that's the status on mine and many others.

3-5 Days is the standard message you'll get from Play. It's all dependant on your local postal services though, along with weather conditions.

If you are still torn just download the demos of each. the difference is night and day. The game looks muddy, has a lower resolution, chugs even when nothing is going on and is jaggy on ps3.

The ps3 demo starts in the second area of the 360 demo, after leaving the train. The frame rate dips even while you are walking to the fight when nothing is even happening. they really dropped the ball with the PS3 port. famitsu, IGN and 1up all did 2 reviews to mark the PS3 one down.

The ps3 demo is longer then the 360 one though so at least it has that but lets just say there is a reason the clock tower scene was cut in the PS3 demo.

If you have both console there really is no excuse not to pick it up on 360. If you only have a PS3 then pick it up since it's the only way to get it and you really wouldn't know how it compares.

It's probably the biggest divide there has been between any PS3/360 game. usually the difference is so insignificant that it didn't matter but the proof is in the demos.

I really hope this snow here doesn't effect my delivery, my copy should be here tomorrow.

Couldn't the S3 version be easily patched though? To sort out some of the issues?

Jarlino
06-01-10, 19:18
I can see how the frame rate dipping and the slowdown is going to 'cause a MASSIVE annoyance in particular points of the game like the highway section (including a nice remix of a familiar theme to old-school players) and parts where a bundle of enemies spawn in a rain of light.

That being said, despite my earlier posts, I picked up this game on it's first week (It was either Bayonetta or Darksiders, and I DID like the gameplay elements in the demo) just because I could.

Very enjoyable gameplay, though all the effort that goes into clunge shots, and perverted talk (with that god-awful voice) just kills the cutscenes for me.
I like the other voices, just not Bayonetta and Cervenza (or whatever she's called, players of the game will know who I mean) especially Yuri Lowenthal as Luka. <3

So far the game is being WAAAAAAAAAY to lenient for me though. I can't wait to unlock hard mode, 'cause for now , the whole witch time dodge thing is making the game way to easy to me. <_<

AlienHunter
06-01-10, 19:21
my copy was dispatched today too! cant' wait! :D

Haradaku
06-01-10, 20:06
3-5 Days is the standard message you'll get from Play. It's all dependant on your local postal services though, along with weather conditions.



Couldn't the S3 version be easily patched though? To sort out some of the issues?


Unfortunately not, they might be able to higher the resolution a tad like they did with ghost busters and a patch to improve load times (as seen in the game trailers review, it has random loading on the PS3) is in works apparently, but this type of stuff is hard codded.

I dunno if you've been following the games development but it's basically a case of "SEGA did it" all port development was done by Sega with very little influence by platinum games. Rumor was that it lead developer wanted it exclusive but Sega execs (smart ones) made it multi platform and Sega developers (bad ones) ported it. though that might not be fair since the way the PS3 version was handled is unknown.

My theory is that Bayonetta was so far along in development before the PS3 version was even started and budget and time constraints lead it be what it is.

I see something similar happening with Final Fantasy 13 with the 360 version, but that is just a speculation.

Catmoo
06-01-10, 20:17
I love Clover/Platinum Games' games. But I cannot bear to look at her neutral stance, it's just ridiculous.

On the other hand however the butterfly effect on the double jump is beautiful, and the combat is lovely and fluid and almost seems perfect at times.

I shall be buying it, but probably not on release.

Jarlino
07-01-10, 10:09
Arrows, you always have valid points in your posts, but if it's just a pointless post with Trolling, I'm going to have to delete them.
Please refrain from doing so.


On topic: added to my list of HORRIBLE HORRIBLE VOICES:
The chapter 14 boss. The cutscene just keeps going with that horribly boring voice that makes you want to fall asleep.. (didn't help that it was 2 A.M already)

At least I finished the game, and it was enjoyable from start to finish (minus the voices I mentioned) but still to easy. And the achievements are just being thrown in the lap. Hopefully, Hard will be a challenge tonight after work. <_<

greenyxi
07-01-10, 10:35
the ps3 version is not that bad!!
i can hardly tell the difference, and besides, it's not like you'll be studying every single detail when you're playing it.
so yes, get the ps3 version if your xbox freezes.

Yeah, I never normally care about graphics or framerate, so that's not gonna be a factor now. I am, however, gonna go for the 360 version, as I can keep my 360 in my uni accommodation, which I'm in most of the week :)
Besides, this seems like the sort of game that has a load of save points, so the freezing shouldn't bother me too much.

Jarlino
07-01-10, 10:49
Besides, this seems like the sort of game that has a load of save points, so the freezing shouldn't bother me too much.

Negative.

There's checkpoints scattered across the levels, but you'll only be able to save inbetween the chapters.

Most levels aren't that long that they'll put you of from starting over, but I can imagine how a freeze during one of the major boss battles can be enough to use the game as a frisbee to train a beloved pet. <_<

My main gripe about the game is that it offers all these possibilities...yet, I was able to score Platinium and gold throphy's in most levels, just using the Katana.

The Space harrier level before that was awesome though, and I thought the boss battle in that chapter would've been better as a final battle, with the difficulity a bit upped.... because honestly, those last two battles just felt..silly. <_<

Maybe I should wait until everybody actually got the game and finishes it, so I don't have to write in such an avoiding way and actually spoil stuff. :p

Carbonox_Ratchet
07-01-10, 12:26
Go for Pure Platinum, Jarlino. ;]

What excites me a lot about Bayonetta is that its place in the genre alongside Devil May Cry results in plenty of similarities; one of which is replay value. I must have put triple figures' worth of hours in to Devil May Cry 3 and even Devil May Cry 4, due to honing my skills and trying to get the best combos/moves/ranks available. With Devil May Cry 4, getting the best placements on the world leaderboards was a lot fun.

So you can expect to see me hacking away at Bayonetta for quite some time for these purposes.

And TZM, that standard message on Play.com pertaining to the release day somewhat alleviates my fears, regarding waiting a long time for the game. Hopefully it may arrive tomorrow then. But with this snow, I still hope it won't arrive later.

thezombiemessia
08-01-10, 10:14
My copy of Bayonetta turned up today.

The box was a little bent, nothing major and not the fault of Plya, but everything else is fine.

The art book is really nice, having had a flick through.

I'll be waiting a while before I install and play the game though.

Carbonox_Ratchet
08-01-10, 11:12
Aye, mine came today and just like TZM, the side of the box was bent a tad. Love the art in the artbook though. :]

Can't wait to get in to it.

Jarlino
08-01-10, 12:22
Is there any specific "art" in there, or just 3D renders?

More precise, design sketches of Luka ?
I did like the character, and the voicing that the Bromeister (Yuri Lowenthal, who voiced Yosuke "Brosuke" in Persona 4 among many of his roles) provided and if I need a quick costume for a convention, he's perfect. 8B

Good luck ps3 players, good luck! <3

Carbonox_Ratchet
08-01-10, 12:25
A lot of 3D renders and a couple of sketches of Bayonetta, Jeanne, Rodin and Luka. Nice little hardback book.

Hickabod
10-01-10, 11:02
I got my copy yesterday, it's still in it's shrink wrap thought! Instead of getting Play.Com's Infinate Climax Edition I opted for Gamestation's Preorder Bonus 'Model of Scarborough Fair'. I went to pick it up on Friday and they had the game but none of the bonuses had be delivered due to the snow (something else to add to my list of Snow-related hate). I shouldn't have been surprised though, that's the 4th thing in a row that I've preordered and failed to get my bonus. So I'm keeping my Shrink Wrapped and Receipt handy until they phone me when my bonus arrives, if it takes too long I'll get my money back and order one from Play... and burn the store down...

Carbonox_Ratchet
10-01-10, 14:04
Finished it on Normal mode in 12 hours. Absolutely spectacular; Hideki Kamiya has done it YET again.

I'll find it very hard to return to Devil May Cry (also my favourite gaming franchise) after this, especially where the combat is concerned. The level of depth in Bayonetta is unrivalled in the genre.

I've also got 41% of the PSN Trophies too so I'm doing pretty well. Still, there's a HUGE amount of stuff to do and unlock still.

Superb. Absolutely superb.

CaptainCortez
11-01-10, 17:15
I ordered my copy of the Climax Edition from play.com yesterday, and it's been sent out today, so hopefully I'll have that in a few days.

It's a hard call to say whether God of War or Devil May Cry is my favourite gaming series, as God of War has improved with each game, where as Devil May Cry has been up and down with each release.

I will say though, that as a standalone game, Devil May Cry 1 is and always will be my favourite game. ;)

When I played the Bayonetta demo, I liked it, but thought it was just a button mashing mess of colours (even though I got platinums for combat, which I probably have to thank my DMC skills for). So hopefully, my opinion will change with the release, and it will actually have memorable combo's, and some good depth to it.

Hideki Kamiya is as far as I'm concerned: A god within the gaming industry. The only other two people who I'd class as gaming gods are Hideo Kojima (need I say? It's Metal Gear Solid), and Tetsuya Nomura (Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts), so needless to say I do have some faith.

We shall see anyway. ;)

Carbonox_Ratchet
11-01-10, 17:27
Trust me Cortez, button-mashing will get you nowhere in Bayonetta. The amount of timing and reflex-precision is astounding, even as quickly as Chapter III and beyond. You HAVE to learn to dodge in this as you can't wail away at enemies and use them as punching bags like in DMC. Using specific moves and combos are crucial otherwise the enemies will break out and counter.

The amount of weapons and stuff to unlock is fantastic, especially when they all help you in some form or another. The Moon of Maha-Kalaa is something I recommend you save up for right away as it's an extremely handy and potent combat accessory. ;)

So much to see and do; I've already got a Trophy score of 50% in the game but have yet to breach the surface of the game itself, in all reality.

CaptainCortez
11-01-10, 17:47
Hmm, as I'm pretty hardcore, would it be fine for me to start on the hardest mode at the start? I can do DMC's on Dante Must Die mode (just not the original), so I'm hoping it won't be any harder. I think I read that somebody was disappointed with the fact the hardest mode wasn't extremely challenging, but whether it is or not, I don't know.

I'm not happy unless I'm playing a challenging game. I did God of War 1 on spartan, and God of War 2 on God mode as soon as I got them both. Gotta say the original was the hardest.

By the sounds of things, from what you've described though, it sounds like you are going to die a lot. So, hopefully it will be pretty challenging.

I'll save up for what you mentioned though, even if I don't know what it does yet...............same as the Alfheim Witch Portals, or whatever they're called. I have no idea what their purposes are.

Carbonox_Ratchet
11-01-10, 17:58
The hardest mode you can start on is Normal. Still, it's fairly challenging, especially as you get further in to the game. I went in to it thinking I can transfer most of my DMC skills in to Bayonetta but boy was I wrong. Irrelevant of the hundreds of hours I've put in to the Devil May Cry franchise, they didn't prepare me for what happens in the game.

As I said before, enemies are not punching bags like in Devil May Cry. In any given Devil May Cry game - irrelevant of the difficulty - enemies can be destroyed pretty quickly if you know what you're doing. The various exploits and mechanics that you can bypass essentially made the hardest modes in Devil May Cry somewhat easy. Enemies do not break out of your combos often (if at all most of the time if you're quick) and there is no need for any dodging implementation unless you're fighting bosses who are very forward.

With Bayonetta, it's the opposite. You're required to dodge, parry/counter (if you have the accessory I mentioned above) and otherwise ensure that you take as little to no damage as possible whilst still maintaining a level head in order to pull off precise combos and specific moves. The level of depth and the amount of avenues far out-paces what you can do in Devil May Cry (I feel like a traitor for bashing my favourite franchise but w/e; Bayonetta is the only game that can potentially make Devil May Cry competitive again) but the priority is that you do not treat the enemies as if they are punch bags. If you do, you WILL die and you WILL die a LOT. Efficiency and precision are of the utmost importance. :P

The Alfheim Portals are basically challenge rooms like the Secret Missions in Devil May Cry.

CaptainCortez
11-01-10, 18:13
Ah ok. I can see what you mean I think.

With DMC, even on the harder modes, I walk towards enemies, and sometimes just stand there being arrogant, as I know I can handle myself well.

I do the opposite with the bosses though, as I want to get rid of them as soon as I possibly can. Echidna's my favourite, and nine times out of ten, I can SSS her with Nero.

So, I guess with Bayonetta you can't be arrogant and think you're untouchable due to your skills, as in a sense, it may be the same type of game as DMC, but you can't play it the same, as the game mechanics are completely different?

I can be precise, but I'll probably die a lot from the sounds of things.

I'm guessing you have to walk into combat, instead of charging in to destroy everything? It seems that you have to go slower about things, waiting for patterns from bosses, and opportunities to become available before you can start laying down the punishment. Or am I wrong, and you still have to be quick, just learn the enemies patterns fast?

I played the demo like DMC, but on my first attempt I found the normal enemies pretty challenging when they swarm around you, but on my second go, I fired up the demo and did everything fine, like it was a piece of cake.

The woman in the room where gravity doesn't seem to exist, was pretty fun as well. I'm just hoping that I won't be letdown in any way, and that the bosses and game in general is as epic as it looks. :D

Carbonox_Ratchet
11-01-10, 18:38
The more basic enemies that you come across (first ones and whatnot that become standard for a while until the harder ones become standard) can be dispatched pretty quickly and easily if you know what you're doing. However, there are a lot of enemies who can't be dispatched with ease due to their resilience.

It's the enemy resilience that can throw you off big time. Enemies can block and counter your attacks pretty easily, or they won't even feel the effect of your combos (despite their health bars saying otherwise) and will just pummel you anyway.

Trust me, it's a lot of fun working out what works and what doesn't, as well as how the enemies react and approach you.

CaptainCortez
11-01-10, 19:24
Ah ok, so do you test out what works best by trying things until you die, or is health not too much of an issue, so you can try one thing, get your butt kicked, run away, then get more life and come back to try something new?

Also, have I got you on psn? I think I do, but not too sure. Just wondered, as it might be fun to compare scores on the leaderboards.

It does sounds pretty good fun though, and is the storyline pretty long if you do it properly, and don't rush through?

Sounds quite cool with the fact that you could be dealing serious damage to the enemies, yet they can still attack you whilst they're taking the damage. Every opposing force in the game must be pretty hardcore, in order to withstand Bayonetta's hair attacks. :p

Jarlino
11-01-10, 21:10
Every opposing force in the game must be pretty hardcore, in order to withstand Bayonetta's hair attacks. :p

The Hair attacks (like summoning giants fists/feet or Ghostly after images of your sword) Actually stun and beat away foes, but they're the results of combo's, and often leave you open for a bit during execution (which punishes you harshly on the final difficulity)


Combat scenes lock you into a small area (barriers that won't disappear until you've killed all enemies) so there's no running away.
The game itself is pretty scarse on giving Green laurels (Think: green orbs) but there's a system in the inventory which you can use to brew your own health items.
Just like DMC, using these items tremendously lowers your score though.

The thingy that you need to learn about enemies, is when to press your RT/R2 (I'm guessing it's placed at the R2 button on the ps3) to dodge.
I love how you can't just keep spamming the dodge, since Bayonetta will pose after a couple of backflips, and be totally open.

Normal difficulity shouldn't provide a problem to most players, the game was fairly easy all-around.
I spent a lot of time backtracking, collecting Halo's, looking for collectibles and whatnot, and I still clocked in at 12 hours the first playthrough.
Finished Hard mode and Infinite climax mode the day after.

There's a mode similiar to the Bloody Palace from DMC, called "the lost chapter" when you finish all challenge portals (which are RIDICULOUSLY EASY) which takes a good couple of hours but was still finished the first time through, and a challenging (though fair and not extremely hard after playing Infinite climax) optional boss fight that I have already mentioned in other threads.


I find it peculiar that I actually found out so much info and did everything in the game, while I was against the whole game at the start. xD

CaptainCortez
11-01-10, 21:17
Lol, she turned you into a lover from a hater, Jarl. :p

Hmm, sounds like there are a few things which if you slip up on, can punish you dearly.

For a start, if you keep dodging and then she poses, that leaves you open for a few seconds, as I did that on the demo.

I'll work out how to mix things when it arrives, but hopefully I'll be able to do it without losing too much life. Though, the bosses will probably end that plan soon enough.

I haven't watched too much of the game, as I really don't want it spoiled.

Normally I'd look at reviews, but I'm not so sure I want to, just in case.

You must like it, if you've played it this much man!

Alex - Thanks for answering my almost endless supply of questions. I appreciate it a lot, and can tell that you love the game, as you type so passionately about it.

I'm looking forward to it now. :D

CaptainCortez
14-01-10, 23:28
Well, it arrived at about 2pm, though the Climax Edition box was a little crushed on the side. Ah well, at least the corners are fine, and it looks in good condition apart from that. :)

I played up to the end of chapter 1, and ended up with about 35-40,000 halo's. I got a gold for the prologue, and a bronze for chapter 1 (even though I got one platinum, one bronze and about 5 gold's for combat), but am missing two or three possible medals. Maybe there are secret places to get them?

Anyway, I need to save up for the Onyx gun things, which look like gemstone shotguns. :D

I have 8% of the trophies already. One of which is a silver, for dodging/activating Witch Time ten times in a row. I did that on the annoyingly tough to damage flying thing, during a future cutscene thing.

Ha, there's a lot of "thing's" in this.

So far, I'm loving it. I'd say it's on par with the greatness of Devil May Cry 1, and even the background music in the power-up menu sounds DMC'ish.

You might know what I mean by that, but if not, it's like you have a tune, and subtle sounds of a woman's voice. It's very similar to the statue of time in DMC1.

The choreography for the fights are amazing, and the story looks really cool. I'm just hoping the chapters get longer as you progress, because I got through the prologue and chapter 1 in like an hour and twenty minutes, when I wasn't even rushing.

There are loads of combo's, and I like the subtle DMC hints, where power-up's are pretty much the same colour.....except this time, they're lollipops. :p

I found that some things which Rodin did at the beginning, were in fact a lot like something you'd see in God Hand, so that made me smirk a bit.

Jarlino
15-01-10, 10:26
I played up to the end of chapter 1, and ended up with about 35-40,000 halo's. I got a gold for the prologue, and a bronze for chapter 1 (even though I got one platinum, one bronze and about 5 gold's for combat), but am missing two or three possible medals. Maybe there are secret places to get them?

Those missing medals are either optional verses, gotten by backtracking, or in most cases, the Alfheim portals. Example: In chapter 1, if you go back to the lift after being in the garden, another bunch of angels will spam. There's A LOT of optional battles if you're looking for the Alfheim's. -_-
And some of these are just hidden in RIDICULOUS places!

Though, you can get a Pure Platinum trophy without doing them, as I've often did in my Halo-grinding playthrough. :D

Using items drastically cuts back on your final score though.

Carbonox_Ratchet
15-01-10, 13:13
You don't need to buy the Onyx Roses; they're merely Alt. versions that enable you to use them on your hands whilst using the regular Onyx Roses for your feet. You can only attach one weapon to one part of the body unless you get their Alt. versions (which there are only 3 to collect).

I wouldn't recommend the Onyx Roses anyhow; I stuck with Scarborough Fair until I got to the better weapons.

Good to see that you're enjoying it.

I'm currently Halo-farming on Chapter III (millions of Halo's per run = win) and will proceed to find the rest of the Alfheim Portals and Witch Chests before resuming my Hard playthrough (on Chapter III on that).

CaptainCortez
15-01-10, 14:50
Ah, well I fired it up again today, and well, my PS3 decided it would die again.

Funny, as I had this thought in my head just before I turned it on: "My PS3's going to die, with Bayonetta stuck inside of it". That exactly happened, so back to the repair place.

This is annoying, as it was only fixed just before christmas. Ah well, whatever. Hopefully my save files will still be there again, like they were the first time, as I didn't get a chance to back-up where I am in my games currently.

Bayonetta will have to be played in a few weeks again, I guess.

Carbonox_Ratchet
22-01-10, 11:33
http://www.gamesthirst.com/2010/01/22/bayonetta-2-could-be-on-its-way/

Hideki Kamiya has stated that he would see nothing wrong with Bayonetta 2 but would prefer to go down the spin-off route with it.

CaptainCortez
22-01-10, 11:45
Well, that could be interesting....

I guess the woman who Bayonetta has a past with, could be the main protagonist of the next game. However, I haven't beaten Bayonetta, or even played much of chapter 2, and so, I can't be sure of this, as I don't know how the first game ends.

If Enzo had his own game, I think I'd shoot myself, but I guess Kamiya could do a lot with it.

He has a lot of great idea's!

If Bayonetta's story was good enough to enable it to be a standalone game, then I see no problem making a game with a new character, though.

Suicidal Steve
22-01-10, 11:52
Make Rodin the protagonist for the next game..How did he get in the coffin at the start of the game? Could work as a prequel of sorts

Jarlino
22-01-10, 14:51
Hideki Kamiya has stated that he would see nothing wrong with Bayonetta 2 but would prefer to go down the spin-off route with it.

I DO see something wrong with it.

Something wrong with the whole "Oh, a new game is selling well? SEQUEL IT!"-line of thinking.

They've got a great combat system and engine running, can't they improve on that with some new characters, a new (maybe one that is actually mentionable) story, etc?

"Spiritual succesor to Bayonetta" sounds better then "Bayonetta 2" to me already. :chin:

deadmensboots
22-01-10, 17:23
This title embodies everything that made God Hand such a brilliant game. Hilarious plots/characters, a deep combat engine and often challenging battles.

I sincerely hope Platinum Games continue to develop new properties as they are a company of extreme talent. It was their team that gave birth to Resident Evil 4, God Hand, Okami, Viewtiful Joe and Devil May Cry after all.

AlienHunter
22-01-10, 18:28
OMG what have i just played? it's....amazing O.O
seriously, i loved the demo, but the complete game is far beyond!
the gameplay is incredibly deep, characters are very well done and they got style, locations are really cool and...and....aaaah i like it so much!

Carbonox_Ratchet
23-01-10, 00:06
I DO see something wrong with it.

Something wrong with the whole "Oh, a new game is selling well? SEQUEL IT!"-line of thinking.

They've got a great combat system and engine running, can't they improve on that with some new characters, a new (maybe one that is actually mentionable) story, etc?

"Spiritual succesor to Bayonetta" sounds better then "Bayonetta 2" to me already. :chin:

I think the reaction was due to fans who want more from Bayonetta (including myself). Hideki Kamiya has NEVER directed a sequel to a game he's made also, so this is not about a sequel line of thinking (he's not a money grabbing exec. like 99% of the industry folks out there), it's about catering to the fanbase's demands or exploring your creation's world more.

As for the game selling well, it's not a multi-million selling hit. It's done surprisingly well for the type of game it's catered towards and anything from Platinum Games deserves exposure. They are arguably the most talented dev team around and do not deserve to go through what many of them did at Clover (regarding shutting down etc.).

James Mitchell
23-01-10, 11:30
Been playing this for fifty hours. I think I should probably stop.

This is also the first time in a long time (Except maybe RE5) where I've continued playing religiously after getting all achievements. =P

(Carbo, you should add me on XBL! >_>)

Carbonox_Ratchet
23-01-10, 12:29
I don't have an Xbox 360 (although I still have an account from when I did have one). D:

charmed699
23-01-10, 14:07
Morning! What a lovely tea party we have here!And dancing too. :)

Just finished everything in lady Bayonetta's game! :D

Carbonox_Ratchet
24-01-10, 18:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1U73QXTsY

INSANE. I must get this guide.

CaptainCortez
24-01-10, 22:33
My god, that beginning combo is insanely nuts!

I have no idea how the player is doing that many combo's, stringing them together so well, and staying up in the air with the enemy for so so long!

I need my PS3 fixed now, so I can play with little missy, until my heart's content. :)

Mokkori Man
25-01-10, 11:27
So I've finished almost Non-Stop Climax and what can I say: the game is fun! The humour is great, the concept, the cutscenes (although some people complain about long cutscenes, I like them and compared to MGS4 they're not that long :D), the wonderful soundtrack and the extra content which is free (and it's fun to unlock everything since you have to buy it)!
I also love the sound from past Sega Games. Whenever the tunes start, I feel like a 6 year old playing Sonic or Out Run :D!
Oh and when they talk about the merchant from RE4 or DMC it's so funny! Oh did anybody notice that Jeanne's version of Lt. Col. Kilgore is called Lt. Col. Slade which is from the movie Scent of a woman where Al Pacino plays Lt. Col. Slade :D (maybe it's just coincidence)!?
The negative aspect about the game is that it takes some time to load on the PS3 (in fact it even loads when you go to your items menu). Oh and playing on Non-Stop Climax I've noticed some severe framerate issues when there were lots of enemies on the screen. Sega announced that they're going to patch it, let's hope they keep their word (right now people on Sega's Forum and P*'s Forum are going bananas about the issue :sadno:).

Nevertheless I really like the game.

Carbonox_Ratchet
27-01-10, 09:20
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/01/27/bayonetta_update/

Bayonetta update confirmed for tomorrow. The update will enable you to install the game on to your PS3's HDD in order to reduce the loading times.

Whether or not this will be for all regions is unknown, but if not then it probably won't be a long wait for those outside of Japan.

CaptainCortez
27-01-10, 12:21
To be honest, the loading times were pretty bad, and took the fluidity away from the game, when moving through areas.

Anyway, if Kill Bill was a game, I think this would be it. :p

It's so awesome. Still sucks my PS3 hasn't even been sent off for repair yet. :(

Alex, are you able to record yourself playing? I've always wanted to do that, to try and show off combo's. Only problem is I have no software to do that, and I play on a standard definition TV.

Carbonox_Ratchet
27-01-10, 13:35
I lack the software also. I've wanted to try and get something sorted ever since Devil May Cry 3 but had yet to get round to it.

CaptainCortez
28-01-10, 11:04
Yea, it would be good to have our own gaming vids on the Capcom forums, but we need all kinds of extra cables, and all sorts.

I used my HD Webcam to record myself playing MVC2, but the file was quite big, and it didn't look brilliant, as I wasn't recording through a cable or playing on a HDTV.

Suicidal Steve
28-01-10, 11:42
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/7791395/Hauppauge-HD-PVR-High-Definition-Video-Recorder/Product.html

This is what I use to capture HD videos. Nice and simple setup

Carbonox_Ratchet
28-01-10, 14:37
http://www.ps3center.net//news/4281/bayonetta-ps3-patch-made-by-sony-not-sega/

Sony made the patch, not SEGA. The patch (4.5GB installation option granted) lowers loading times and helps with the screen-tearing.

T-Vairus
28-01-10, 21:11
FINALLY! It was very annoying to wait and wait and wait and wait and wait while the game loads and loads and loads and loads... :facepalm:

Carbonox_Ratchet
05-02-10, 12:46
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/02/05/bayonetta-breaks-a-million-units-sold-not-halos/

Congratulations Platinum Games for literally going Platinum with Bayonetta!

Very well deserved.

No47
12-02-10, 18:57
Just thought i would let people know that Zavvi currently have Bayonetta for sale at £17.99 (free delivery) for both xbox 360 and PS3.

This is the cheapest price i have seen it for, and can't see it lasting long at this price.

Carbonox_Ratchet
12-02-10, 22:15
That's daylight robbery. Action fans, you know what to do now!