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ManiacFather
21-07-08, 18:23
http://www.41q.com/index.41q?a=1


Answer the questions and feel free to post the result.

Triple Seven
21-07-08, 18:35
Essentially the same question over and over again (edit: the 2nd part gets more versatile). Lack of precision, too.

Parjay
21-07-08, 19:00
Yeh these things are about as subtle as a brick to the face.

Anyhow, we all know the Psychotics among us are adept at lying to pass such tests.

Triple Seven
21-07-08, 19:06
Pass?

seth ranson
21-07-08, 22:40
What s this? At the end of the job list it said (hitmen). I mean WTF?
And sorry, but I can t copynpaste with the Wii, so you won t get to read my result.

EDIT:
I made this test again, but I got a different result this time (and it s kinda positive this time; and not very much like me in my opinion; it was more fitting yesterday to be honest - except for the hitmen thing...):

Here s the link to my results:
www.41q.com/type.41q?p=23572585

Dante2014
22-07-08, 05:33
Your personality type:

Logical, original, creative thinkers. Can become very excited about theories and ideas. Exceptionally capable and driven to turn theories into clear understandings. Highly value knowledge, competence and logic. Quiet and reserved, hard to get to know well. Individualistic, having no interest in leading or following others. Highly analytical, they can discover connections between two seemingly unrelated things and work best when allowed to use their imagination and critical thinking.

Careers that could fit you includes:

Physicists, chemists, biologists, photographers, strategic planners, mathematicians, university professors, computer programmers, computer animators, technical writers, engineers, lawyers, forensic researchers, writers, artists, psychologists, social scientists, systems analysts, researchers, surveyors.

Im uh, not THAT smart....

The Spirit
22-07-08, 10:38
Your personality type:

Warm-hearted, popular and conscientious. Tend to put the needs of others over their own needs. Feel strong sense of responsibility and duty. Value traditions and security. Interested in serving others. Need positive reinforcement to feel good about themselves. Well-developed sense of space and function.

Careers that could fit you includes:

Home economics, nursing, teaching, administrators, child care, family practice physician, clergy, office managers, counselors, social workers, bookkeeping, accounting, secretaries, organization leaders, dental assistants, homemakers, radiological technologists, receptionists, religious educators, speech pathologists.

Thats mine! :)

greenyxi
22-07-08, 13:36
Your personality type:

Quiet, reflective and idealistic. Interested in serving humanity. Well-developed value system, which they strive to live in accordance with. Extremely loyal. Adaptable and laid-back unless a strongly-held value is threatened. Usually talented writers. Mentally quick and able to see possibilities. Interested in understanding and helping people.

Careers that could fit you includes:

Writers, artists, counselors, social workers, English teachers, fine arts teachers, child care workers, clergy, missionaries, psychologists, psychiatrists, scientists, political activists, editors, education consultants, journalists, religious educators, social scientists.

Thats actually quite accurate, surprisingly. I dont think that I would like any of those jobs, though...

The Spirit
22-07-08, 17:21
Your personality type:

Quiet, reflective and idealistic. Interested in serving humanity. Well-developed value system, which they strive to live in accordance with. Extremely loyal. Adaptable and laid-back unless a strongly-held value is threatened. Usually talented writers. Mentally quick and able to see possibilities. Interested in understanding and helping people.

Careers that could fit you includes:

Writers, artists, counselors, social workers, English teachers, fine arts teachers, child care workers, clergy, missionaries, psychologists, psychiatrists, scientists, political activists, editors, education consultants, journalists, religious educators, social scientists.

Thats actually quite accurate, surprisingly. I dont think that I would like any of those jobs, though...

Its just a test, you can be & do anything you like to as long as youve the heart & will power to do it ;)

Triple Seven
22-07-08, 17:46
Its just a test, you can be & do anything you like to as long as youve the heart & will power to do it ;)

Genes?

seth ranson
22-07-08, 17:57
Genes don t matter. You CAN do any job you want. Genes (and your experiences) only decide wether you suck at it or not.

Parjay
22-07-08, 18:12
Genes don t matter. You CAN do any job you want. Genes (and your experiences) only decide wether you suck at it or not.

So in essence, Genes do matter.

Triple Seven
22-07-08, 18:18
Genes don t matter. You CAN do any job you want. Genes (and your experiences) only decide wether you suck at it or not.

Incorrect. If you dont fulfill the requirements (> have certain genes) necessary to do a job you cant do it. You sure can have a title or be hired to do a job (and have what it takes to be hired) but you still cant do the job, you cant perform. For instance, you could technically be hired a as goldsmith and perhaps even be called a goldsmith but still cant do a goldsmiths work.

Sorry, I went a little over board with the italic.

seth ranson
22-07-08, 18:34
Actually I wasn t very serious in that post above... We probably don t know enough to discuss this properly.
If you want to speculate we could go on (this time more seriously than I was before)... I don t think genes matter THIS much. You can learn anything. Really.

Parjay
22-07-08, 18:36
Well we all know enough of common sense, and that dictates that no, you cant learn anything.

seth ranson
22-07-08, 18:48
Are you kidding me?
Ok, maybe you can t learn to walk on water, but you can learn any skill that you require for jobs.

Parjay
22-07-08, 18:52
So youre trying to tell me that Genes dont matter, and as such a person with an IQ of 47 could learn Quantum Physics and become a Professor? I dont think youve thought this through very well. Genes dictate the person right down to how the electrical impulses in the brain are going to perform.

And more to the point, as an animal built from genes, to say genes are unimportant is grossly idiotic.

seth ranson
22-07-08, 19:13
They are not unimportant, they don t matter for choosing a job.
Persons with an IQ of 47 don t just come out of nowhere. There s a reason why they have a low IQ, and this reason is NOT just their genes. Of course there are exceptions (as there are everywhere), people with serious disfunctions for example. The genes are mainly for building the body as far as I know (as I said I don t think we know enough to discuss this properly, not even the scientists researching this know yet). Much more important is what happens in the first, say, 25 years of life. This is where the brain mainly develops and where someone could lose the ability to carry out a certain job, for example by drinking too much alcohol and killing a lot of brain cells.
The best example that genes don t matter that much are twins. Do they have exactly the same life, because they have the same genes? No, they don t.

Triple Seven
22-07-08, 19:32
They are not unimportant, they don t matter for choosing a job.
Persons with an IQ of 47 don t just come out of nowhere. There s a reason why they have a low IQ, and this reason is NOT just their genes. Of course there are exceptions (as there are everywhere), people with serious disfunctions for example. The genes are mainly for building the body as far as I know (as I said I don t think we know enough to discuss this properly, not even the scientists researching this know yet). Much more important is what happens in the first, say, 25 years of life. This is where the brain mainly develops and where someone could lose the ability to carry out a certain job, for example by drinking too much alcohol and killing a lot of brain cells.
The best example that genes don t matter that much are twins. Do they have exactly the same life, because they have the same genes? No, they don t.

Oh dear. Do so some research.

The best example that genes don t matter that much are twins. Do they have exactly the same life, because they have the same genes? No, they don t.

And how... uh... does that prove your point?

Parjay
22-07-08, 19:34
They are not unimportant, they don t matter for choosing a job.

Of course they do.

Persons with an IQ of 47 don t just come out of nowhere. There s a reason why they have a low IQ, and this reason is NOT just their genes.

They come out of their gene pool, so of course not nowhere. Where did you think they came from? Also, Yes it is.

The genes are mainly for building the body as far as I know

And what else is there to build?

Much more important is what happens in the first, say, 25 years of life. This is where the brain mainly develops

Right, and develops using the functions that the genes have dictated that you can use - case in point: no two people mature the same way.

and where someone could lose the ability to carry out a certain job, for example by drinking too much alcohol and killing a lot of brain cells.

Of course, but thats beyond the point - were talking about the predisposition of function that the genes grant the life form.

The best example that genes don t matter that much are twins. Do they have exactly the same life, because they have the same genes? No, they don t.

Thats a very bad example for a number of reasons; the main one being twins are not exactly alike.

seth ranson
22-07-08, 19:44
About the twins:
They do have the same genes (the XY and XX genes definitely don t carry information that have anything to do with the brain efficiency as far as I know).

the rest:
Let me think about that think about it a little.

@777:
Oh, and I suppose you know everything about this?
As I said: Not even scientist agree about this. So how should we know?

Parjay
22-07-08, 19:51
the XY and XX genes definitely don t carry information that have anything to do with the brain efficiency as far as I know

Seth you just dont seem to understand what we are. There is no equality in the world; we are not born as equals like some model Terminator off a production line. We are in effect, the best possible attempt at making the best version of a Human life-form that our parents could achieve. There is no mythical one Human.

As a version we are created genetically predisposed to everything to do with our bodies and life. You might have a predisposition to learning; I might not. I might have superior use of the language part of my brain that would allow me to learn as many languages as I had time to, while you might struggle with one.

There is no equality, there is no One Human; we arent all born exactly the same brain wise, there is no true 100%, we arent a line of quad core processors running at the same speed; we are all basically knockoff attempts at a Human. Its just not the way life (as we know it) works.

The Spirit
22-07-08, 21:28
About the twins:
They do have the same genes (the XY and XX genes definitely don t carry information that have anything to do with the brain efficiency as far as I know).

the rest:
Let me think about that think about it a little.

@777:
Oh, and I suppose you know everything about this?
As I said: Not even scientist agree about this. So how should we know?

You are right actually, most of the famous people were home schooled, some teachers even told those famous people that they lack an IQ level & cant fit in a certain profession. Just look at the few names

ARTISTS:

Leonardo da Vinci
Claude Monet
John Singleton Copley
Andrew Wyeth |
Jamie Wyeth

COMPOSERS:

Irving Berlin
Anton Bruckner Felix Mendelssohn
Books About Felix Mendelssohn
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Francis Poulenc EDUCATORS:

Frederick Terman
William Samuel Johnson
Frank Vandiver
John Witherspoon


INVENTORS:

Alexander Graham Bell
Thomas Edison
Cyrus McCormick
Wright Brothers: Orville and Wilbur Wright

& the list goes on & on.

So either this way or the other Triple may find something to disagree with, I also stated in the last topic I pasted in, that he cant take feedbacks & gets all fired up to show his authority as mod that he is right.

On a sidenote Triple youve been doing nothing more than provoking seth ranson, The so called genes statement of yours failed, if youve read the above listed names, read there life-stories too maybe you would learn a thing or two from them.

Parjay
22-07-08, 22:06
You are right actually

Actually, he isnt.

most of the famous people were home schooled

So? Home schooling is just as good as proper schooling; if not better.

some teachers even told those famous people that they lack an IQ level

You cant lack an IQ level; unless youre dead or in a vegetative state.

cant fit in a certain profession.

And were they wrong? Could Leonardo Da Vinci release a Number One Pop Single?

So either this way or the other Triple may find something to disagree with, I also stated in the last topic I pasted in, that he cant take feedbacks & gets all fired up to show his authority as mod that he is right.

But all weve seen is YOU provoking and disagreeing with stuff. Just because Triple doesnt agree with something doesnt mean its all fired up. Since you specifically target him for authority, it just indicates that YOU have a problem with authority figures and use it as an excuse when people dont agree with you.

The so called genes statement of yours failed

It didnt. And even if it did, it hasnt failed as hard as your post which has no baring on whats being discussed in this topic; you simply used it as a quick vehicle to target and provoke Triple.

Your post stated this: even if you have no (which is impossible) IQ and people tell you you cant do some professions you can still do other professions. Well? Big woop. We all know that, that has nothing to do with whats being discussed.

Please inform us, if indeed your post wasnt just a vehicle for attacking a mod, on why you think the pros and cons on home schooling vs public/private schooling have anything to do with the genetic makeup of the human being on conception and growth of predisposition from the traits the parents have instilled to their child. Otherwise you did nothing but post a (huge fail) mod trolling post that doesnt even fit in on anything thats being discussed here.

At least have the courtesy of not joining in if youre just here to rain on some user. Do it by PM.

Ryuu's_Ghost
22-07-08, 22:09
Genes are not be and end all to how you turn out there are other factors also. But seriously certain people take this subject to heart which isnt the best state of affairs.

Parjay
22-07-08, 22:10
Genes are not be and end all to how you turn out there are other factors also.

Youre right of course, but thats not really whats being discussed here.

seth ranson
22-07-08, 22:17
You guys are so funny... Everytime The Spirit shows up you get angry for no real reason. (please don t take this as an offense now, but honestly, why do you hate this guy???)

Actually I was about to post this, before The Spirit posted, but I was thrown out by the forum again, because it took too long and then I wanted to see your reaction first.Anyway, so here s what I wanted to post before:

Hm. Weird. I ll ignore the last post for now as I d agree with it anyway.

Whatever. Most studies I looked up just now really say that the IQ is mainly determined by DNA, not by the environment (except for the fetal environment or however it s called..). Since you could just come up with these studies there s no real point in objecting to this statement.
Don t get me wrong though, I d still say that you can learn anything. On the one hand that s because I don t want to admit that you were right, second that s because my personal experience has shown me that you can learn anything, if you want to learn it.
Maybe that s because there s hardly a person with a IQ of 47 who wants to learn Quantum Physics...

Parjay
22-07-08, 22:20
Well theres a cop out if I ever read one.

This should be locked now IMHO.

seth ranson
22-07-08, 22:30
Why???
If you don t want to go on in it that s fine, but why close it?

Parjay
22-07-08, 22:35
Couple of reasons. Seems some unsavory types are using it as a troll ground against a mod. Another reason would be that the main guy in the discussion turned out to be pretty adolescent with admittance of wrong; and this leads into the last reason: coupling your attitude with your test results from the personality test indicates that the test is pure BS.

Ryuu's_Ghost
22-07-08, 22:44
That test needs about 200 more questions to get a even a semblance of accuracy its one of the wost of its ilk that Ive had the pleasure of reading.

greenyxi
22-07-08, 22:45
A person who starts off terrible at maths, with a low IQ, could still become a maths teacher etc. It is easy to build a skill, even if you are not any good at that type of skill. Completing a task repeatedly (connected to your wanted job) is the way to get on the career ladder that you want. Building skills for jobs is the way of life.
eg. An artist was once terrible at painting, but did lots of Paint By Numbers. Therefore, he got good at painting even though he was once the worst that his genes could make him. He got a job as an artist nonetheless.

Sorry if that was a bit muddled. Feeling a bit ill at the mo.

Parjay
22-07-08, 22:47
That test needs about 200 more questions to get a even a semblance of accuracy its one of the wost of its ilk that Ive had the pleasure of reading.

Yup.

A person who starts off terrible at maths, with a low IQ, could still become a maths teacher etc. It is easy to build a skill, even if you are not any good at that type of skill. Completing a task repeatedly (connected to your wanted joCool is the way to get on the career ladder that you want. Building skills for jobs is the way of life.
eg. An artist was once terrible at painting, but did lots of Paint By Numbers. Therefore, he got good at painting even though he was once the worst that his genes could make him. He got a job as an artist nonetheless.

Sorry if that was a bit muddled. Feeling a bit ill at the mo.

I know what you mean dude, but its not the same as what was discussed earlier here. Youre right, if you have enough of an IQ you can become a maths teacher, but youre not going to become Stephen Hawking, right? The discussion is about seths continual claims that anyone can learn anything, which is obviously flawed. And why do you feel ill?

seth ranson
22-07-08, 22:50
Seems some unsavory types are using it as a troll ground against a mod. Another reason would be that the main guy in the discussion turned out to be pretty adolescent with admittance of wrong; and this leads into the last reason: coupling your attitude with your test results from the personality test indicates that the test is pure BS.

My test result was quite positive (in my opinion), so I m not sure if I should take this as a compliment or an offense, but I guess I can t disagree as I have already stated that my test result is not very fitting...

As for The Spirit s post I really found 777 quite provoking to be honest.

And the test itself... well such test are either very general or wrong (or both...). May be a prejudice, but I never saw one that s actually good. It s still fun doing them and posting the results, so why not let others do this too?

Triple Seven
22-07-08, 22:51
I would appreciate it if whoever wants to continue the discussion of intelligence (IQ) in specific opened a topic for that.

greenyxi
22-07-08, 22:51
No reason that I know of. Sorry, but I actually agree with Seth. Anyone can learn anything, to an extent. Of course, they are not going to get to Stephen Hawkingss level (to continue your example), because even people who are good at maths would not reach that high a level. Even I could get good at maths, if I were willing to try reading through books and do loads of example calculations.

Sorry, I finished posting after you posted.

Parjay
22-07-08, 22:53
And so you could also write a bestseller?

Record and perform a no1 album?

Direct a blockbuster movie?

Design a building?

greenyxi
22-07-08, 22:59
With the correct help (which is always necessary), it is possible for someone to do all of these things. The thing is, that people dont try. They normally reach a height in one and carry on with that one.

I could write a book, but its up to the public and not me whether it would be a best-seller.
The same with the no1 album. As well as getting money, for them both, of course.
If I read up on directing, then I could direct. Once again, blockbusters are never made by the director, but by the viewers.
Designing a building is highly likely, if I were to want to follow that path. There are many university and college courses, I think, that would build up that skill.

Parjay
22-07-08, 23:00
Blissful ignorance, eh?

Anyhow, according to T7 no more of this talk here.

Triple Seven
22-07-08, 23:07
Please use this (http://www.capcom-europe.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&m=10501⤅) topic. Ive quoted greenyxis last statement there.

bondey6678
23-07-08, 03:51
I aced that test...

Your personality type:

Creative, resourceful and intellectually quick. Good at a broad range of things. Enjoy debating issues and may be into one-up-manship. They get very excited about new ideas and projects, but may neglect the more routine aspects of life. Generally outspoken and assertive. They enjoy people and are stimulating company. Excellent ability to understand concepts and apply logic to find solutions.

Careers that could fit you includes:

Entrepreneurs, lawyers, psychologists, , photographers, consultants, sales represenatives, actors, engineers, scientists, inventors, marketers, computer programmers, comedians, computer analysts, credit investigators, journalists, psychiatrists, public relations, designers, writers, artists, musicians, politicians.

Two things in there I want to be,
Computer Programmer and Psychologist, Woo!