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With the release of Dead Rising and possible sequels is Resident Evil coming to an end. Serious... anyone else think so.
seth ranson
23-04-08, 23:12
I don t think Dead Rising will become popular enough to surpass RE.
Concerning the money Capcom gets only by selling RE merchandise it would not be wise for them to just stop making more games.
Why do you think RE comes to an end?
Yes mate, im sad to say that but its realy enogh just to watch the trailer of resident evil 5 and play Re4 and you will see that it is alredy on the end, the franchize died alredy after resident evil code veronica. (also resident evil remake was a wonderful job)
okamihameha
24-04-08, 01:27
Yes mate, im sad to say that but its realy enogh just to watch the trailer of resident evil 5 and play Re4 and you will see that it is alredy on the end, the franchize died alredy after resident evil code veronica. (also resident evil remake was a wonderful job)
i love the older-school resident evils.
but can you honestly expect capcom or any game developer to create a next-gen game with what is essentially amn awkward control sytem?
resident evil four plays far better, but distinctly lacks the brilliant atmosphere of the earlier games. and of memory there were no-puzzles.
it feels worse.
i feel like alot of japanese developers are putting a lesser focus on the subtleties that make their games truly unique and are simply broadening
action-orientated market appeal in the wake of the all consuming american fps overload. your average halo playing eleven year old will
enjoy playing 4 more than 2 or the remake. certainly not a good thing.
balancing atmospheric camera angles with a different control system would be pretty hard though. any ideas anyone?
a directional movement system would be a step up.
in consideration of he zero wii version, pointing at a point on the screen would make a character pivot to aim at said point.
infact all movement could be handled with the wii-mote, click to move character/examine, hold a button and point to pivot/aim, waving to dodge attacks.
the older games had a cinematic quality to them, resi4 feels like your head is full of cheese. fun though.
hope for that resident evil 2 remake!
the movement system in the olderschools very much added to the tension, in a faster-paced environment its simply not-viable.
i own the mansion remake yet dont have a gamecube/wii yet, it sits there in wait for me.....
dead rising doenst touch resident evil. i wore sillly clothes and hit golfballs at zombies. fun. nothing like the experience of resident evil 2.
seth ranson
25-04-08, 13:48
How are you going to shoot a zombie that is out of the screen?
Your character can often see what you can t see.
I think keeping the old perspective (which was really cool, like in a movie) would also meam keeping the old control method.
Im cool with all Resident Evil games but this thread isnt about that, its about if Dead Rising is replacing RE.
thezombiemessia
25-04-08, 18:06
and of memory there were no-puzzles.
1. Door into the chiefs house
2. The lights in the church
3. The block movement puzzle with Ashley
These are the first 3 that come to mind. I cant quite remember if there were any more, but that at least shows that RE4 had some puzzles.
The RE series isnt dying just yet...it will do eventually, but only when Capcom stop making money out of it. They wouldnt put this much effort into making a new RE title for the next-gen titles, and stop the series right there.
There are still many more to come. Maybe not any more with the same story-arch (take down Umbrella/Wesker), but there will certainly be more.
in order to survive Resident Evil must evolve, change and adapt to new rivals such as Silent Hill, Dead Rising and Forbidden Siren. Survival Horrors are changing and Resident Evil must change to survive and stay the best .
So no Resident Evil is not dying but evolving.
thezombiemessia
28-04-08, 22:03
... new rivals such as... Dead Rising
Not a rival, as it is made by Capcom themselves. If it were a rival...then theyd probably cancel one of the series. As DR wasnt really a success, it couldnt be classed as a rival even if it were made by another company.
However, you should have mentioned Alone in the Dark...along with possibly Dead Space...depending on how that turns out.
As much iv seen from the new Alone in the dark trailer i can say that this game is how the resident evil should be on next gen, alone in the dark is a slower . suvivor horror , just cant compare it to this evolving action/shooter resident evil style.
This is a real nice example of comparation about what survivor horror means and what action/shooter means.
Both of the games were survivor horrors, now watch the difference between them how they evolv. you say resident evil need to evolv on next gen, indeed but wich way dose it matter ?
How is alone in the dark evolving ? and how is resident evil evolving ? take a look and find out that one still hold hes survivor horror style but it evolved extremly much for the next gen (alone in the dark), and take a look on (resident evil) how its evolving on next gen and its geting more into a action/shooter .
:(
thezombiemessia
03-05-08, 10:52
Its to do with the way the games have panned out over time though.
Alone in the Dark was always heavily focused on exploration more than anything else, with very little combat ever appearing.
Whilst the Resident Evil franchise has, despite peoples protests, always been heavily action oriented.
With Silent Hill coming around the middle.
The most disappointing thing is that whilst RE is going actiony, and AitD is evolving into a kind of episodic survival horror with action elements...Silent Hill is kind of going down hill and isnt too sure on what direction it should go.
At least if RE does go down the purely action path, it wont be trying to cover it up with cheap scares, etc.
Silent Hill series fu..ed up aswell, take a look at silent hill 5 new trailer, most of the people think its a psp/ps2 game , that graphics didnt evolved, the characte`s movement is very unrealistic but to make it short, the big awaited next generation silent hill 5 looks exactly like a psp game :(...
The japan original konami team gave the project to the americans :) i think thats enogh.
SH Homecoming the new name for SH5 looks mint from the little we have seen.
SH4 was terrible compared to older SH games but SH HC serms to have corrected that.
The trailer to HC is work in progress so it wont look right just now.
Even if they change something color or stuff like that on that graphic engine you realy think it would look as a next generation silent hill 5 should look ?
thezombiemessia
03-05-08, 15:31
Graphics are not everything...but i will agree that the newer footage actually looks worse than the footage we were shown when the game was first announced.
The change in the way Alex looks has certainly annoyed a few people i know...
Yes it will.
The stuff that has be shown is very early work hence work in progress.
By the time it comes it will have been refined and look & feel a lot better.
You cant judge a game on early pictures or videos and from what little we have seen of it
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I judge the game in my opinion from what iv seen till now, i mean graphics aint evrything of course, but as for example if the game looks as a ps2 game and the character movement and evrything is the same then it means the game have to focus 100% on the gameplay/story, and since the americans make the game well...im curious what gona happen....i hope they wount distroy the series.
How can you judge a full game on what little has been shown?
Its like watching 10 seconds of a film then saying you dont like it.
to make fair judgement you need to have watched played a lot more than has been seen.
10 secounds as you say ...aint enogh to see tha graphics of the game ? , i wasent talking about the gameplay/story maybe that will be very nice.
thezombiemessia
05-05-08, 10:25
10 secounds as you say ...aint enogh to see tha graphics of the game ?
Technically not, especially considering the game will still be in the early stages of development...
what more then the color and clear image can they change from a game wich is under development ? the engine remain the same for sure, same as the characters movement rith ?
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DisturbedbyDeth356
05-05-08, 11:04
silent hill 3 was the last good silent hill game in my opinion
10 secounds as you say ...aint enogh to see tha graphics of the game ? , i wasent talking about the gameplay/story maybe that will be very nice.
No its not enough as game engines ,graphics can be refined, along with character movement refinement among many other things.
At the end of the day graphics are not the be all end all of gaming my most important factor is story and gameplay.
Like I have said the stuff that has been shown isearly work in progress stuff.
I have played plenty BETAs and demos which look bad but then the full games not only plays better but looks hell f a lot better.
When the main game is done they will refine and optimise the in game graphics and engine, lightning and sound.
You cant judge a game on early pictures & videos & Demos as its work in progress
I agree disturbedbydeath.
thezombiemessia
05-05-08, 22:31
what more then the color and clear image can they change from a game wich is under development ? the engine remain the same for sure, same as the characters movement rith ?
Look at the early footage of Silent Hill Origins, or the early footage of Resident Evil 4 and you will see that the games can change a lot over time...despite having the same engine throughout the entire development process.
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Why??
As for the last best Silent Hill...id say the only bad SH game is The Room (number 4)...Origins was excellent, especially for a PSP title.
Well anyway , if they will change the game 80% from how it is now in the trailer then it might be good, bot for what i have seen now in those more then 10 secounds of gameplay trailer on youtube if the game will be exactly the same as it is in that trailer then it will be a big shame for konami and for the silent hill title wich proved along the years from the 1st one till the 3rd one that they made incredible graphic progress along the years (maybe they were the example of how to progress in graphics in games.) since silent hill 4 was wross then the first 3, and it disapointed many fans, and since this first fiwe sh5 gameplay trailers shows some way the same disapointment , i dont see a reason for hoping that this game will change dramaticaly 90% after they relase it in september 2008.
But of course if there a wonder happens then maybe the game will be Totaly changed in a 4,5 more mounths before the relase ..........
I agree with the idea that the gameplay/story matters more then the graphics, but since we are talking about KNOMAI who proved alredy with the first 3 silent hill games that they can create incredible grapchis with incredible nice storyline/gameplay , of course that we can expect them to make a game in 2008 on next generation console wich should have gameplay/story AND a new very nice realistic special graphic.
I noticed also that most of the BIG good games before the laungh have a lot of trailers, a lot of coments on gamespot...and if i take a look now to sh5 its like you see a fiwe pictures and 2 litle trailers, i feel like no one take in consideration that game wich is another reason that it wount be something revolutionary..
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