View Full Version : Cruellest thing Umbrella has done?
Lisa Trevor
03-09-09, 21:29
What would you say it is?
I'd say a draw between Lisa Trevor and the stuff of Sheena Island was the worst and most inhuman thing they have done they kidnapped kids between the age of fourteen and twenty so they could drill into the child's skull without any aesthetic to cause agony and pain to trigger the release of pure Beta Hetero Nonserotonin to be excreted which they would collect and inject into anyone along with the T-Virus to make them become a Tyrant.
thezombiemessia
04-09-09, 09:54
Purposefully infecting a city with 100,000 individuals still inside, kidnapping children from across the globe, kidnapping random people from across the globe (CVX), the Trevor Family, assassination of key figures within their own ranks.
The list goes on. No singular act was worse than the other, because they all ended with the death of people.
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*AHHH TZM ... you posted before me ... i was hoping to be the first to reply !! *
the Cruelest thing Umbrella has done is the design of the Spencer mansion !!
the architecture of the mansions' interior is horrible ( i can't help it ... i am an engineer !!)
ok jokes aside ... i agree with you...
the cruelest thing is Liza -and her family - and the stuff on Shenna Island ...
can't think of something else ...
also there is the team they sent to Racoon city to save the civilians only they used them to gather bio-combat info !!
but still .. that is not as cruel as Liza and Sheena ...
cewolf out
Personally, I think the worst thing they have done is being wiped-out in the prologue of RE4, thus forcing us to battle Ganados & Pals instead of zombies and Tyrants...
that is the cruelest thing CAPCOM did ... not umbrella !! :D
cewolf out
Steady now, I don't want this thread to degenerate in to a "boo hoo RE is not horror anymore wah wah" type of thread, please keep this purely about Umbrella and its in-universe impact, if you would be so kind as to take such grief elsewhere.
thezombiemessia
04-09-09, 20:18
ok jokes aside ... i agree with you...
the cruelest thing is Liza -and her family - and the stuff on Shenna Island ...
can't think of something else ...
also there is the team they sent to Racoon city to save the civilians only they used them to gather bio-combat info !!
but still .. that is not as cruel as Liza and Sheena ...
cewolf out
I still stand by my point that no singular act is any worse than any of the other attrocities they committed.
All of the things that Umbrella did resulted in the death of at least 1 person at any given time.
Killing people is wrong, no matter what, thus everything that Umbrella did was as bad as every other thing that Umbrella did.
Lisa Trevor
04-09-09, 21:08
Purposefully infecting a city with 100,000 individuals still inside, kidnapping children from across the globe, kidnapping random people from across the globe (CVX), the Trevor Family, assassination of key figures within their own ranks.
The list goes on. No singular act was worse than the other, because they all ended with the death of people.
Well said. :clapping:
Kieron Baird
05-09-09, 09:42
Lisa Trevor always make me feel sad when I would hear/see her in the game. Racoon City was a tradgic event caused by Umbrella. I didn't like the animal testing lab in Resident Evil 5, felt very real.
I also didn't like how they made Jill blonde, she was perfectly fine as a brunet!
Nabil Mishima
05-09-09, 10:46
In the RE world, they should be thankful to have people like Leon/Chris/Claire etc.
Can't say anything more about what was truly evil. because as tzm said, no act to more evil than the other........
It's odd, really, we've not seen the positive side to Umbrella, and what their legitimate research and experiments have contributed, we've only really seen their ruthless corporate side with cruelty and no mercy upon traitors and the weak.
thezombiemessia
07-09-09, 12:52
It's odd, really, we've not seen the positive side to Umbrella, and what their legitimate research and experiments have contributed, we've only really seen their ruthless corporate side with cruelty and no mercy upon traitors and the weak.
Not true.
Safsprin, Aquacure, Adravil and Uspirim would like to have a word with you ;)
Along with the major funding behind the development of Raccoon City. Although they had hidden plans for it, it was a good thing to.
Not true.
Safsprin, Aquacure, Adravil and Uspirim would like to have a word with you ;)
Along with the major funding behind the development of Raccoon City. Although they had hidden plans for it, it was a good thing to.
Yeah, but what I meant was, we hardly saw that side of them, that only appeared briefly in RE3, but I still consider myself owned with that point. :stretcher:
Dont forget that umbrella is essentially two companies. Red umbrella and white umbrella. The white branch is the legitimate pharmasutical company, making medicines and doing good deeds in the public eye. the red branch, the branch we see in the games are the secret, bio weapons research branch, opperating in secret behind the sceens. that's why the "good" side of the company is so rarely seen i think.
(N.B this informatin comes from one of the resident evil novels. Some conssider these to be non cannon so this is mainly just a theory)
thezombiemessia
08-09-09, 12:16
The books are completely non-canon, and anybody that considers them to be canon should think about what is contained within the books that completely contradicts everything we've been told within the games.
It would be like believing that the films are a part of the canon also.
i did state that this waas just conjecture! it is simply a likley theory that umberella would keep its two facets seperate. Yammaha motorbikes and yammaha musical instruments are part of the same company but managed totaly seperatley. it makes sense that a company with as many dirty secrets as umberella would do something similar.
thezombiemessia
09-09-09, 00:06
Agreed, but there are no official names for the things.
It is likely that they all went under the same name, but had different purposes.
quite possibley. Will Pharma seemed to run all of its assets from a single headquaters in degeneration. mind you they may not have had quite the financial backing that umbrella did, they certainly seem to have fewer labs and facilities.
junglist_dnb
10-09-09, 02:47
Even Umbrellas pharmaceutical branch was evil in a way.
It was being used to fund research & development of Bio-weapons, the people buying the meds were essentially tools in Umbrellas true intentions.
Everything Umbrella did was cruel as TZM said.
And now Tricell have takien there place.
Ooooh! just think! we could all be the tools in a vast and horrific corperate scheeme! where are the conspiracy theorists when you need em? LOL
http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52238
The horror.
thezombiemessia
10-09-09, 12:47
And now Tricell have takien there place.
Not true. TriCell, as far as we know, are good guys.
It was only the African Branch, under the control of Excella, that got lead astray...
As far as we know, the rest of the company had no involvement whatsoever in the Uruboros problem...
http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/ind...ducts_id=52238 (http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52238)
The horror
*twitch & drool*
I'll be ordering me some of them when I get back to Uni...
How far up the chain within tri cell was excella? for all we know the entire board of directors at tri cell could have been in on it! maybe we will find out in Resi 6!:thinking:
thezombiemessia
10-09-09, 15:23
Excella was the controller of the African Branch of TriCell, so she had some influence...but she was mostly looked down upon because of her lineage. It's all explained in her character profile in the game.
But, yes, the whole of TriCell could be corrupt...but, as far as we know, it was only Excella that was corrupt.
junglist_dnb
10-09-09, 23:18
Not true. TriCell, as far as we know, are good guys.
It was only the African Branch, under the control of Excella, that got lead astray...
As far as we know, the rest of the company had no involvement whatsoever in the Uruboros problem..
Might well be that it was mostly Excellas doing, but then again Tricell was retrieving the remains of the G-Virus B.O.W at the end of Degeneration. (even if Degeneration was a "side story")
But that could be connected to the same Tricell in RE5. (who knows ?)
Also I would like to believe Tricell are becoming the next Umbrella.
thezombiemessia
11-09-09, 12:28
Might well be that it was mostly Excellas doing, but then again Tricell was retrieving the remains of the G-Virus B.O.W at the end of Degeneration. (even if Degeneration was a "side story")
But that could be connected to the same Tricell in RE5. (who knows ?)
Also I would like to believe Tricell are becoming the next Umbrella.
WilPharma had a sample of the G-virus to try and find a cure for it, along with the T-virus.
It can be assumed that TriCell were collecting it for the same purposes.
As I say, as far as we know, Excella was the only corrupted member of the TriCell leaders.
That stands to reason that, given the hightened hysteria concerning bio weapons by the time of degeneration and resi 5, there would be a lot of interest in creating a cure (and gaining the publicity that would result in doing so). it also makes sense that a disgruntled and greedy employee within such a company could be lead atray.
http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=52238
The horror.
:shocked:
But anyway, surely the rest of Tricell had some sort of knowledge of what was going on.
thezombiemessia
12-09-09, 11:18
But anyway, surely the rest of Tricell had some sort of knowledge of what was going on.
Why?
On a smaller scale, companies have this problem all the time. One department can get away with something like fraud for years on end.
Excella hired Ricardo Irving to do all of the Black Market dealings for her, and he was mostly good at it, bt he screwed up and got caught out.
Like I say, there're more than likely other members of TriCell that knew about Excella, Wesker, and the Uruburos Project...but, as far as we know, TriCell are good guys, with a bit of corruption within them.
Excella was only doing this thing with wesker so that she could become a higher up member of TriCell, more respected because of her achievements, etc.