View Full Version : how about outbreak file#3? 4 ps3
or a left 4 dead style shooter with the UBCS from RE3 or HUNK team from RE2 or STARS CHARLIE team for RE1? BSAA for RE5
RE needs to branch out more im definately exited about RE PORTABLE just hope its done right a re3/re4 hybrid would work well
PS why cant chris walk and shoot at the same time again??
or a left 4 dead style shooter with the UBCS from RE3 or HUNK team from RE2 or STARS CHARLIE team for RE1? BSAA for RE5
Wouldn't that just be Left 4 Dead in Resident Evil's clothing? There's a plethora of RE mods for Left 4 Dead online. Borrowing Left 4 Dead's core aspects of gameplay would be highly unoriginal, as well as the clear differences between the infected of L4D and the infected of Resident Evil.
I'm not too keen on the FPS aspect either, even though it is fairly close to the RE4-5 mechanic, but this proved highly unpopular for the Gun Survivor series. Left 4 Dead proved that survival horror can still be very well done in FPS games, so I doubt there's a risk of it becoming an all out team shooter, but, Left 4 Dead was built from the ground up with the mechanic in mind, the existing monsters and characters within a story would have to be folded around the mechanic, resulting in some not so pleasant retconning.
As for the choice of teams, all are fairly ill-fated, since HUNK's team dies during RE2, leaving only one alive that more than likely dies before HUNK has even reached the roof. Most of the USBC where wiped out, leaving a few remnants that survived, but I think their fates and actions are well documented elsewhere, meaning that they would have to retcon some of them to fit in to series canon. As for Charlie team, hmm, I'm not sure about those, but I think Fire And Ice covers their story, meaning a game would make their survival predictable and necessary.
The B.S.A.A would only fit from RE5 onward, I suppose there would be a few biohazards prior to RE5, that team would probably the most suited since little is known of the group as a whole, but Darkside Chronicles will more than likely cover the bulk of biohazardous incidents outside of the B.S.A.A, resulting in a very linear story path.
RE needs to branch out more
Eh? They've covered almost every genre and aspect that would be plausible.
im definately exited about RE PORTABLE just hope its done right a re3/re4 hybrid would work well
I can't really comment since little is known on RE Portable as of yet, only that it's speculated to be Resident Evil's answer to Monster Hunter and possibly a pseudo-Outbreak game.
But I doubt they'll maintain the controls from RE4/5, they are more than likely to revise them for easy use on the PSP, plus it depends who the player characters are, they may focus on melee combat over gunplay if they are ordinary people fending off zombies as opposed to specially trained agents.
PS why cant chris walk and shoot at the same time again??
Many have speculated that this is for realism, as shooting whilst moving is not only highly inaccurate, its also dangerous since it's hard to keep track of aiming and firing whilst moving, stray bullets could richochet and civilians could be hit accidentally et cetera.
However, I find this just be an excuse for an intentional flaw to add tension to the game by restricting controls and movement to only allow for aiming.
thezombiemessia
07-08-09, 14:08
Is Fire & Ice even Canon?
A "Charlie" team are never mentioned in game, and it is never stated that Wesker set anything up beyond Alpha & Bravo.
Plus, S.T.A.R.S only existed in Raccoon City, so none of the Perry Novels would count either.
An FPS could be interesting, but it'd be boring if it were just a L4D clone, as Dante said.
Dante covered pretty much everything else.
I'm not sure if Fire and Ice is canon, I think the only true way to tell is if the comic's plot and characters are mentioned in games onward from the last. Most of the comics are non-canon anyway, since they wheren't written by the creators of the Resident Evil series (In most cases anyway, I could be wrong.).
But considering Charlie team has never been mentioned within the games by Wesker or officials (Irons, For example) they can quite easily be regarded as non-canon or at the very most, a team making tribute to the original S.T.A.R.S.
thezombiemessia
07-08-09, 15:21
Most of the comics seemed to be "What If's?" more than anything.
Though some of them could probably be worked into the canon.
Hah, I remember a comic featuring an uninfected Birkin AFTER RE2, fending off the G-virus, which, strangely enough, turned people in to zombies... Hmmm....
But, I find it rather worrying that this thread's title ends in "4 PS3", what's wrong with Xbox360 or Wii? Could it possibly be that Mr.Greeni86 wants Left 4 Dead on PS3 and wants to prostitute Resident Evil to get it? if so, shame on you sir....
yh left4dead would b cool on ps3 but resi is my most favorite series ever i would just like to see a bit more of multiplayer action and at the same time try to recapture some of the suspense from the originals,
thanks for all your comments guys you know your stuff!
"A "Charlie" team are never mentioned in game, and it is never stated that Wesker set anything up beyond Alpha & Bravo."
are you sure? who was sent to inestigate the train from RE0 and UC then? or was is just us marines?
thezombiemessia
08-08-09, 10:53
A "Charlie" team are never mentioned in game, and it is never stated that Wesker set anything up beyond Alpha & Bravo.
are you sure? who was sent to inestigate the train from RE0 and UC then? or was is just us marines?
They were USF (Umbrella Special Forces).
Allow me to elaborate:
The S.T.A.R.S investigating the train in RE0 are Bravo team, the military guys that get killed by leeches while the train is moving are the USF, The S.T.A.R.S investigating the mansion in RE1 are Alpha team.
Charlie team where formed after both Alpha and Bravo teams ceased, so all three teams wouldn't have operated together at any point, there are also spin offs that suggests different police forces have a S.T.A.R.S unit courtesy of Umbrella, but this has proven untrue in the games, there was only those in Raccoon City.
Many have speculated that this is for realism, as shooting whilst moving is not only highly inaccurate, its also dangerous since it's hard to keep track of aiming and firing whilst moving, stray bullets could richochet and civilians could be hit accidentally et cetera.
However, I find this just be an excuse for an intentional flaw to add tension to the game by restricting controls and movement to only allow for aiming.
................that excuse doesn't account for why you can't move and use your knife. so you're probably right.
but doesn't alpha team run into some survivors of bravo team. like in the mansion, with richard and stuff?.....i might be wrong. that's atleast what i got from umbrella chronicles.
but doesn't alpha team run into some survivors of bravo team. like in the mansion, with richard and stuff?.....i might be wrong. that's atleast what i got from umbrella chronicles.
Alpha team where the group leaving the chopper at the start, they consisted of Wesker, Chris, Jill, Barry, Joseph and Brad. Joseph died before he even reached the mansion door and Brad fled with the chopper, so the only members of Alpha team in the mansion were Chris, Jill, Barry and Wesker.
The rest of the S.T.A.R.S (or rather, whats left of them) were from Bravo team, all except for Rebecca Chambers were killed.
Alpha team where the group leaving the chopper at the start, they consisted of Wesker, Chris, Jill, Barry, Joseph and Brad. Joseph died before he even reached the mansion door and Brad fled with the chopper, so the only members of Alpha team in the mansion were Chris, Jill, Barry and Wesker.
Wait wait, wasnt the bravo team wesker, jill, barry, joseph and brad?
I thought alpha team was lost and bravo was sent in, it also makes sence, as alpha is first and bravo second.
To avoid having my rear end handed to me on a plate by TZM, I double checked.
Bravo team where sent in to investigate the murders, went missing since they where sabotaged, Alpha went to find them, got attacked and stranded and wound up in the same mansion as the dying remnants of Bravo team.
thezombiemessia
09-08-09, 10:25
Oh. My. God.
It's like being back in 1996...I weep for the Resident Evil series.
Bravo team were sent in first, it is assumed they did this because the job wasn't deemed important enough to warrant the best of the best as of yet.
When Bravo team crash landed, they got split up. Some of them went straight to the Mansion, others found other entrances.
Rebecca and Edward found the train, Enrico found another unknown entrance, whilst the others are unknwon.
By the time Alpha team reach the area (24 hours later), they find the corpse of Kevin Dooley, and then get forced into the Mansion (losing Joseph in the process). Brad Vickers escapes in the helicopter.
Chris, Jill, Barry and Wesker (Alpha Team), explore the Mansion and find the "survivors" of Bravo team.
Enrico is shot, Forest is attacked by crows, Richard is eaten by either the Snake or Shark, and Kenneth is attacked by a zombie a few minutes after Alpha Team reach the mansion.
Rebecca Chambers is the only surviving member of Bravo Team.
Oh, ok, sorry, i wasnt sure :D
That reminds me, i really have to finish that damn game :D
FragPuss2409
15-08-09, 02:29
getting back to the topic, i'd like to see outbreak file #3 on ps3, aslong as it kept the old style of fixed camera or the re4/5 style of 2nd person (over the shoulder), i'd hate for re to ever become an fps again.
RE outbreak file 3 for ps3? yes please. 360 and Wii diserv too.
I think it would be better suited to the likes of PSP to be totally honest, but if it where to come to be, then, I would appreciate it being on both Xbox Live and PSN, while the Wii, not so much, it doesn't seem that well suited for online play en masse, it just wouldn't be on calibre with the hardware of PS3 and Xbox360.
I hated the first 2 Outbreaks, but I'd like to see a 3rd one released, just so I don't miss out on the online mode this time. Maybe I'd like the online mode...
Oh, I think PS3 would be the best console...for me. My 360 freezes a lot with disk games (of course, Microsoft won't do anything useful).
FragPuss2409
15-08-09, 18:50
Microsoft won't do anything useful).
that's not just limited to the 360 of course ;)
You guys do seem to have a hard time staying on topic on many occasions. :D
I personally can't stand the Outbreak games. I bought, played and suffered as many times as a could through them, but I find them uncomfortable and annoying. How many times it was when I searched for some vital item for ages because one of my partners had picked it up and tossed it away at another location. That's what bugged me the most. Not to mention that the partners don't seem to have a brain, which they could use to think "Oh, my partner's getting eaten! Should help!" or "This is the way to safety, should follow!". It was like guiding a herd of sheep - or worse. I didn't mind the stages themselves or the story, what annoyed me the most were the partners. Oh~ and their constant babbling!
FragPuss2409
16-08-09, 01:03
You guys do seem to have a hard time staying on topic on many occasions. :D
I personally can't stand the Outbreak games. I bought, played and suffered as many times as a could through them, but I find them uncomfortable and annoying. How many times it was when I searched for some vital item for ages because one of my partners had picked it up and tossed it away at another location. That's what bugged me the most. Not to mention that the partners don't seem to have a brain, which they could use to think "Oh, my partner's getting eaten! Should help!" or "This is the way to safety, should follow!". It was like guiding a herd of sheep - or worse. I didn't mind the stages themselves or the story, what annoyed me the most were the partners. Oh~ and their constant babbling!
Haha yeah gotta say, their constant chattering may aswell have been a bright neon sign saying LUNCH IS SERVED HERE, to all the zombies, the bad AI did suck, and the loss of online capability in the uk
I personally can't stand the Outbreak games. I bought, played and suffered as many times as a could through them, but I find them uncomfortable and annoying.
I felt exactly the same way when I started playing them, compared to the other mainstream games, the outbreak series was slow, repetitive and had a tendancy to mess the player over with a dodgy mechanic over a genuine difficulty, however, once I got in to the grove of things, it slowly flowed better.
How many times it was when I searched for some vital item for ages because one of my partners had picked it up and tossed it away at another location. That's what bugged me the most.
I was more bugged by the fact that we'd all get knocked over and no one could pick the other one up, the key items thing was often scripted, I think, but still, I see your point, it was confusing.
Not to mention that the partners don't seem to have a brain, which they could use to think "Oh, my partner's getting eaten! Should help!" or "This is the way to safety, should follow!". It was like guiding a herd of sheep - or worse. I didn't mind the stages themselves or the story, what annoyed me the most were the partners. Oh~ and their constant babbling!
They could have done so much more with the partners, instead, they where dumb versions of the players character, in that they could do exactly the same things, but not have a clue of what to do at the right time.
And some of the voice acting for the NPC's sucked, I recall a character of the USF having an effeminate voice, it really wasn't appropriate for a hard-chinned soldier...
But, File 2 was slightly better in some respects, so hopefully a third game would do the series justice for this generation.
I was more bugged by the fact that we'd all get knocked over and no one could pick the other one up,
Too true, how could I forget about that bit!
But, File 2 was slightly better in some respects, so hopefully a third game would do the series justice for this generation.
I agree with you there. What I was most fond of was the MUTE on the partners' blabbering! :hop: I'd only like to see a file#3 with knowledge that it would indeed do the files justice, but I don't have my hopes high here.
I think why I kept playing the Outbreak files was only because they were a part of the RE serie and there *was* something to actually play for, like a whole lot of unlockables and I am loco for unlockables. My dad, who is also a huge RE fan, gave up on them after the first few tries and I constantly found myself saying "look, it's not that bad", but at the same time I was very much disliking them. If they weren't RE games I am fairly sure I would have pushed them into the corner, but I was interested in the fate of the regular people and I do think it was a great idea to show the outbreak from that point of view.