View Full Version : Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (PSP)
Triple Seven
24-01-08, 01:42
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/015/925138_20080116_screen005.jpg
Thats a CG image for starters. Crisis Core is due out on March 25th 2008 (US). Region free, one might add.
Nabil Mishima
24-01-08, 17:41
I have it, a great game!
Cant wait to play it in English, especially having recently played through VII on PSP.
Nabil Mishima
29-01-08, 19:58
Is Cloud Strife a playable character in CC? Id love to plsy as him.
Triple Seven
29-01-08, 21:32
Not as far as I know.
Is Cloud Strife a playable character in CC? Id love to plsy as him.
Go play FF7.
James Mitchell
01-02-08, 04:37
Is Cloud Strife a playable character in CC? Id love to plsy as him.
Cloud and Zack are pretty much exactly the same aesthetically anyway. =P Just pretend Zack has blonde hai
Triple Seven
01-02-08, 04:49
I disagree. Cloud (Advent Children, Crisis Core) looks really bad, in my opinion. Zacks better.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/262/925138_20070919_screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/131/925138_20070512_screen002.jpg
Nocturnal Stillness
01-02-08, 11:06
What Im looking forward to seeing in CC is the real Zack and Cloud.
****SPOILERS****
in FF7 you only see them briefly in the flash back at Nibelheim.
Im curious about how much of Zacks personality does Cloud possess in FF& after all the cloud in FF7 had his memories mixed up with Zacks aka he is a member of SOLDIER etc.
****SPOILERS END****
Ryu Kazama
01-02-08, 12:24
I like Clouds new age design. Prefer it over Nomuras old VII stuff anyway. But yeah, Zack is better. Ive preferred Zack as a whole anyway. Not saying Cloud sucks, I just prefer Zack.
Aesthetically its probably more correct saying Sephiroth, Cloud, Zack and every other Nomura design look the same.
I like Clouds new age design. Prefer it over Nomuras old VII stuff anyway. But yeah, Zack is better. Ive preferred Zack as a whole anyway. Not saying Cloud sucks, I just prefer Zack.
Aesthetically its probably more correct saying Sephiroth, Cloud, Zack and every other Nomura design look the same.
Yeah Id have to agree with you on that.
I disagree. Cloud (Advent Children, Crisis Core) looks really bad, in my opinion. Zacks better.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/262/925138_20070919_screen004.jpg
I agree.. he looks very bad.
anyway, god.. I hate all these anime-boys, they just... make me sick. anyone agrees with that?
when Im playing a game I usually want to play some hardcore ugly guy like dantes first DMC4 look (he looked REALLY ugly.. which was cool)
guys = ugly, woman = sexy.. changing it into guys = sexy, woman = ugly is a VERY bad thing IMO
but Ill be buying this game as I like the story in FF7, I like the action scenes in FF7: advent children and I like all the FF7 soundtrack.
but what I hate the most about the FF series is the gay-looking character design.
Could be worse - he could go around looking like Crash Bandicoot :lol:
Triple Seven
02-02-08, 19:40
(...) when Im playing a game I usually want to play some hardcore ugly guy (...).
[G]uys = ugly, woman = sexy.. changing it into guys = sexy, woman = ugly is a VERY bad thing IMO[.]
[W]hat I hate the most about the FF series is the gay-looking character design.
You should analyse what youve just written.
(...) when Im playing a game I usually want to play some hardcore ugly guy (...).
[G]uys = ugly, woman = sexy.. changing it into guys = sexy, woman = ugly is a VERY bad thing IMO[.]
[W]hat I hate the most about the FF series is the gay-looking character design.
You should analyse what youve just written.
LMAO, yeh you dont have to be a Psychologist to work that one out.
every time I write anything, people always start by replying my post and talk about that 1 post, going very off-topic,
and IF I reply to the MANY replies I got from my fans (you guys must be my fans since you reply EVERY friggin TIME I write something) I end up getting a warning.
Its a bit off topic but apparently they are remaking FFI and FFII for the psp, just a thought but should we just create a topic where information and questions regarding the series can be posted?
James Mitchell
06-02-08, 09:24
Its a bit off topic but apparently they are remaking FFI and FFII for the psp, just a thought but should we just create a topic where information and questions regarding the series can be posted?
Theyve already been completed and translated into English by Square Enix....though looking at it now, looks like they havent been released in PAL territories yet. Feb 8th for the original.
James Mitchell
06-02-08, 09:24
Its a bit off topic but apparently they are remaking FFI and FFII for the psp, just a thought but should we just create a topic where information and questions regarding the series can be posted?
Theyve already been completed and translated into English by Square Enix....though looking at it now, looks like they havent been released in PAL territories yet. Feb 8th for the original.
Hopefully theyve added more dialog to the original, half the time on that one i didnt know where to go since after the first dungeon no one tells you, you just had to run around going to different towns until you found where you where supposed to be. FFII had possibly the best leveling system imho, you leveled your health, mana attack, sp. attack etc. individually making your characters more suited to your play style.
Triple Seven
07-02-08, 01:26
Basically prettier graphics, for those who like it (definately technically advanced, though). No new dialog, lower difficulty when compared to the orginals (especially the first game) and a bonus dungeon. PSP games arent region locked, you can pick up the NA ones. If you already have the PS1 games you should consider skipping the PSP ones.
Please open a new topic for games other than Crisis Core.
Ryu Kazama
08-02-08, 21:00
Decided to just play the Japanese version (since I havent been able to sort my PS3 order out. Problems. Ugh.) of this. It looks pretty good for a PSP game. It plays decent. Kind of think they should have just used the KH system instead but whats there is decent.
I havent gotten too far. Spent a fair bit of time figuring out what the text said...and now my eyes hurt somewhat. Might just skip all future text since my Japanese is quite poor still.
Edit:
Played a little more. The game is incredibly linear. Its essentially A to B stuff, which in a way can suck. Maybe itll change later on (only played for a few more hours) but I doubt it. I was told it was linear anyway.
Itd be nice if they added minor things to the western release such as cutscene/FMV skipping. Pausing is present but no skipping. True, they are very, very nice and the FMVs are spectacular, but it should be standard to skip them. I havent had to re-view scenes over and over just yet but I can imagine it being a hassle.
Adding a theatre mode would be so awesome. I already know it has no such option and that really is a shame. The FMVs are gorgeous! The summons (only seen Ifrit since Im not that far) look amazing!
The Digital Mind Wave system still confuses me. Its all pretty much random, which makes things...well...pointless. Its not terrible and it does work well but if its random, why bother? The old system of gaining exp to level up was better. This system...confuses me. I think there are other factors involved but you only level up through the DMW system once you hit 777.
You do get neat bonuses such as Break HP, MP or AP where your HP increases past your current ammount. For example, you could have 500/500HP but with Break HP itll bump it to 650/500. Same applies to MP and AP.
The soundtrack in my opinion is great. Its pretty heavy stuff though so I wouldnt be surprised if some people hate it. Its basically similar stuff from the Advent Children movie.
So far the game is decent though. Cant say Id recommend it to those who have not played FFVII though.
Ryu Kazama
13-02-08, 22:15
So I finished the game today (not that long ago from typing this). If youre a fan then of course you will know the ending.
Generally the game is pretty good. The DMW system is something I would like changed instead of being random. On one hand itll make the game easier (for the most part it was) and on the other it gets hard, all depending on wheather it decides to do its thing or not. Basically the area before the final boss the system kept doing its thing. Soon as I got to the final boss it barely helped me out, forcing me to use my Elixirs to replenish my AP. Heck, I even got KOd at one point but thankfully I had Re-raise still left on me from...a long time before I got anywhere near the boss (it carries over until it gets used, which is nice).
Apart from the DMW system other things I think that could have been better are sound effects. For the most part its really good. What bugged me was the footsteps. UGH! Boots like those dont go clack, clack, clack. Its thud, thud, thud. I would say making the game more open to just roam around doing other things would be good but, since the game is extremely focused on story Ill let it pass. Would have been nice to add a skip scene feature and theatre/music mode.
Gackt-I mean Genesis...decent character but my God! Even in Japanese I was getting fed up of the character constantly reading extracts from a book! He basically expresses his entire views by quoting a book. Few lines are actually spontaneous. Thats something I sure as heck am not looking forward to hearing. Moreso as it will be in English and if Dirge of Cerberus is to go by, hell have a truly bad voice that simply does not fit. His Japanese voice (Gackt) was alright..until he started doing battle cries. The battle cries were the kind a big bruiser would say !? Ha....hahaha! You scream like a girl!
So, to sum it up, I enjoyed the game. Definitely the better of the Compilation. Yes, it adds extra things to the whole FFVII story but not the crazy amount that Dirge of Cerberus did (where did half that stuff come from!?). Saying that, expect a fair few changes in a VII remake. Nothing that will destroy the original game, just edits to accomodate elements from the rest of the compilation.
I really cant wait for this! I loved FF7 (its not the best one, though imo).
I like the look of the pics in this thread and the graphics look amazing. The battle style isnt turn-based, is it? Its a pity, if its not turn-based.
I just wish turn-based final fantasies would return. Any known ones in the future? Except the remakes for the DS and PSP?
Triple Seven
19-03-08, 18:03
Dear lord.
Whoever remixed/decided to remix Mr. Uematsus unequaled original score of Final Fantasy VII should not have been involved. There are vital, characteristic elements of the original boss battle music missing. Seriously, that sucks. Awesome idea to improve a (near) perfect piece of music by dropping parts and adding an e-guitar.
Have a look at these videos
Ifrit Boss Battle (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32002.html)
Bahamut Boss Battle (http://www.gamespot.com/video/925138/6186833/videoplayerpop?)
Damn, Im mad about this.
On a sidenote, theres a special pre-order edition (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Final-Fantasy-VII-Special-Pre-Order/dp/B0015XM1LW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1205949645&sr=8-1) available for... well... pre-ordering...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SZ-1LHBnL._SS500_.jpg
That being said, Ill now go smash windows or key cars or something.
Hmm. I dunno whether or not I want to preorder it from Amazon now. Dunno if its even worth it to be honest.
Triple Seven
19-03-08, 18:11
Youre generally able to cancel pre-orders. If you keep track of your pre-orders there wont be much of a problem, I assume.
billybandit
19-03-08, 18:27
Dear lord.
Whoever remixed/decided to remix Mr. Uematsus unequaled original score of Final Fantasy VII should not have been involved. There are vital, characteristic elements of the original boss battle music missing. Seriously, that sucks. Awesome idea to improve a (near) perfect piece of music by dropping parts and adding an e-guitar.
Have a look at these videos
Ifrit Boss Battle (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32002.html)
Bahamut Boss Battle (http://www.gamespot.com/video/925138/6186833/videoplayerpop?)
Yeah I saw the new videos earlier... what idiots idea was it to turn the awesome FFVII boss battle theme into a piece of self-indulgent cliche metal? It adds absolutely nothing to the experience. Especially after the very familiar build up of the song
The rest of the game looks really good though, Ill probably get it. I just hope whatever other tunes made it across from FFVII havent been raped
Triple Seven
19-03-08, 22:21
Yeah I saw the new videos earlier... what idiots idea was it to turn the awesome FFVII boss battle theme into a piece of self-indulgent cliche metal? It adds absolutely nothing to the experience. Especially after the very familiar build up of the song
I couldnt agree more. Its actually painful to me, at least highly irritating.
The rest of the game looks really good though, Ill probably get it. I just hope whatever other tunes made it across from FFVII havent been raped
Its not nearly as dramatic, in my opinion, but I do have a problem with this video/music as well:
Tifa (Nibelheim, I think). (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32005.html)
Ryu Kazama
19-03-08, 23:25
The music wont appeal to everyone. Basically take FFVIIs original music and remix it to something like Advent Childrens. You might like it better when its clear and using headphones (that how I played the game anyway). Personally, I didnt mind it so much. I liked the remixes though some bits within selected tracks werent so great. You have to consider the fact that VIIs music is actually out of date now. The tunes are great but if they just reused them, it simply wouldnt fit. They just sound out of date.
Other remixes are Turks theme (which I thought was great), Shin-Ra, Aerith and a bunch of Last Order remixes and of course One Winged Angel. Another downside to the music (or the first downside depending on your stand on the remixes) is a lot of it repeats. By that I mean there are quite a few tracks that use a similar theme just different tempo and instruments. In the end the music wont appeal to everyone. I personally liked it, minus the many repetative tunes.
Im not liking the English voices so far. Theyre ok but still far off from say, Zacks awesome voice in Japanese. Not surprised Reno is still voiced by Quinton Flynn since he did do AC anyway.
Anyway, pre-ordered this already. Doubt Ill rush to play it though.
A word of advice though, if you witness a good FMV (apart from summons), MAKE A NEW SAVE! Thats assuming there is no Theatre option included (dont think there is). Some of the FMVs are absoloutely gorgeous!
Wow, according to Gameplay, this has been delayed to June/July...Good God.
Im hoping they were mis-informed.
I hope this is the only game receiving a push back on release date this year.
If GTA, MGS, RE5 (when its finally announced), SFIV, or any other highly anticipated title gets ANOTHER pushback I think im going to go postal on the games industry....or maybe Postal 2.
Triple Seven
20-03-08, 08:44
Thats not necessarily a delay. The PAL release was originally announced as in spring. Then it was Q2. Theres a good chance the retailer dates are careful estimates.
Personally I have already bought the Japanese version (box art, primarily). The US one will be released on March 25th. Since the box art seems to be identical to the PAL one Im rather sure Ill order that version (it being region free and all).
Dear lord.
Whoever remixed/decided to remix Mr. Uematsus unequaled original score of Final Fantasy VII should not have been involved. There are vital, characteristic elements of the original boss battle music missing. Seriously, that sucks. Awesome idea to improve a (near) perfect piece of music by dropping parts and adding an e-guitar.
Have a look at these videos
Ifrit Boss Battle (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32002.html)
Bahamut Boss Battle (http://www.gamespot.com/video/925138/6186833/videoplayerpop?)
Yeah I saw the new videos earlier... what idiots idea was it to turn the awesome FFVII boss battle theme into a piece of self-indulgent cliche metal? It adds absolutely nothing to the experience. Especially after the very familiar build up of the song
you kidding me? that sh** is AWESOME! metalized boss battle themes, reminds me of Nightmare Creatures. Im so gonna buy this game.
every thing I seem to like, you guys dislike.. you want nothing awesome and hardcore, only some sad and drama stuff that just sucks. that also ruined Zelda OoT. OoT would be better if it has some better in-game music.
billybandit
20-03-08, 11:59
Sad drama? The original boss battle theme was much more musically interesting, and despite the fact that it (like the whole soundtrack) was MIDI-based, it had much more oomph than the forgettable loose mix in those videos. You can listen to that stuff anywhere.
You dont want anything interesting, you want rubbish and arguments, and Nightmare Creatures, and your brothers precious pre-ordered credit card, and F-bloody-Zero. Boring narrow-minded troll.
Triple Seven
20-03-08, 12:55
The music wont appeal to everyone. Basically take FFVIIs original music and remix it to something like Advent Childrens. You might like it better when its clear and using headphones (that how I played the game anyway). Personally, I didnt mind it so much. I liked the remixes though some bits within selected tracks werent so great. You have to consider the fact that VIIs music is actually out of date now. The tunes are great but if they just reused them, it simply wouldnt fit. They just sound out of date.
Out of date? You got to be kidding me. By what/whose standards? Quality music out of date, poorly done e-guitar (not that e-guitar music is necessarily bad) in? Oh please. Advent Children (done by Nobuo Uematsu, by the way) was less problematic, it at least was quality music. That being said, for people whove played Final Fantasy VII the (very good) music doesnt stand alone anymore, it is deeply linked to events, characters and locations. Good idea to ruin that. Much like Mr. Uematsu would like to see it for a remake of VII, the original music should simply be re-recorded and the better technology available now should be used.
Sad drama? The original boss battle theme was much more musically interesting, and despite the fact that it (like the whole soundtrack) was MIDI-based, it had much more oomph than the forgettable loose mix in those videos. You can listen to that stuff anywhere.
You dont want anything interesting, you want rubbish and arguments, and Nightmare Creatures, and your brothers precious pre-ordered credit card, and F-bloody-Zero. Boring narrow-minded troll.
Once again, I agree. As for the boss battle music in specific, theyve cut out the key element, in my opinion. I was always looking forward to that part, the whole music builds up tension and works toward that exact moment. I cant describe it in technical terms but this now irritates the hell out of me. I found it great the first time I heard it and now the boss fights Ive experienced throughout the game are also contained in this specific piece of music. When it works it is like a switch that instantly puts you in boss battle mode.
Of course I respect that other people simply do not like the music. But think of it this way: Youre a fan of soccer. Then someone comes along and changes the game into tennis. Tennis fans will love it. But for the love of god, its not supposed to be tennis, its soccer. There are other tennis games out there, Devil May Cry, for instance. You could as well change Metal Gears score into an opera.
I did dislike Dirge of Cerberuss music and Im afraid Crisis Core might end up similar to that, musically.
Of course I respect that other people simply do not like the music. But think of it this way: Youre a fan of soccer. Then someone comes along and changes the game into tennis. Tennis fans will love it. But for the love of god, its not supposed to be tennis, its soccer. There are other tennis games out there, Devil May Cry, for instance. You could as well change Metal Gears score into an opera.
funny the way you described it.. because Tennis is my favorite sport o_o
Triple Seven
20-03-08, 13:42
IGNs review (http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/860/860615p1.html), video available.
IGNs review (http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/860/860615p1.html), video available.
yeeeaaahh the gameplay looks kick ass.. instead of this lame card gameplay. and even with metalized soundtrack.. is this the only FF game like this? because now FF is finally getting interesting IMO.
Ryu Kazama
20-03-08, 16:21
Hmmm, how would I describe the out of dateness? Basically its not that the music itself is out of date but the...hmm, Im not a music buff so Im struggling to explain it. Its a bit like listening to something recorded decades ago but with a re-recording itd sound better. Make sense?
The remixes arent that different to how Uematsu remixed them (in general style!) in AC to be honest. The Black Mages almost always add a jam in there somewhere. All of the AC remixes had them, IV had them, V had them etc. All their remixes are heavily rock based. CCs composer pretty much did the obvious thing for this day and age and go along the same route. Ah well, no one is forcing people to like it.
Gameplay will get boring....its good for a handheld and it works but its nothing special. Its definitely a good place to start and work from though. Im definitely interested in how Birth by Sleep will play.
Triple Seven
20-03-08, 17:21
Hmmm, how would I describe the out of dateness? Basically its not that the music itself is out of date but the...hmm, Im not a music buff so Im struggling to explain it. Its a bit like listening to something recorded decades ago but with a re-recording itd sound better. Make sense?
Depends. So in your opinion music that hasnt been recorded utilizing the latest technology is necessarily worse than a (rather extreme) remix of that music utilizing the latest technology? Also, have you played Final Fantasy VII in the recent past?
edit:
Heres 1ups review (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3167007).
Ryu Kazama
20-03-08, 17:56
Not really. There will be times when people will say Oh the classic was better. Thats normal. But it simply would not fit anymore. They could have re-recorded if they wanted to but they obviously didnt. They could have even used the exact same recording from VII but it just wouldnt fit in with the rest of the audio. Its good for nostalgic purposes or a quick laugh but as a whole it doesnt really work. Might as well use Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix as an example. There will be die-hard fans who wont want the original music changed at all. But due to a huge number of requests and the fact the looks are being radically updated, why not re-do the music too? It doesnt fit so well when you have very old recorded audio with a game that has everything else touched up. Remixing is a natural part of it. It wont please everyone but it sure does keep everything consistent.
No, I havent played FFVII recently. Not that I should I need to.
billybandit
20-03-08, 19:33
Theres a big difference, what Ive heard of SSF2 HD Remix is similar to the Hyper Anniversary arrangements, and thats just arrangements, which actually sounds really good. And then instead of arrangements, they could go the way of OutRun 2 and record the classic tunes with an actual band (as far as Im aware that was the case, either that or they used some seriously convincing synthesis). Basically in the Crisis Core boss battle theme, theyve taken some elements of a great tune and added a lot of mediocre elements - like when Jamelia ruined Depeche Modes Personal Jesus with her own Beware of the Dog (and later she ruined Stranglers Golden Brown). If youre going to do that, you might as well just come up with a completely new soundtrack
Arrangements are usually a great way of updating tunes. Remixing them, dumbing them down and trying to shift them into different genres to appeal to the typical teenager is not.
Ryu Kazama
20-03-08, 20:12
Arrangements. That makes sense. Probably would have kept some people happy but even then youre still not pleasing others. Thats the simple way itll be. Just like when HDR comes out, I probably wont like at least one track but whatever. Ill deal with it...somehow.
The remixes theyve done (in CC) probably has a lot to do with the fact AC went in that direction and so do many other games. Its the In thing basically and a lot of developers have to follow it in many cases or the product wont fly. Its just that simple. Saying that, its FF. Itd fly anyway.
By the way, I dont think those tracks actually play that often. I only remember them playing during a few fights. Not that many.
Triple Seven
21-03-08, 08:36
Arrangements. That makes sense. Probably would have kept some people happy but even then youre still not pleasing others. Thats the simple way itll be. Just like when HDR comes out, I probably wont like at least one track but whatever. Ill deal with it...somehow.
The remixes theyve done (in CC) probably has a lot to do with the fact AC went in that direction and so do many other games. Its the In thing basically and a lot of developers have to follow it in many cases or the product wont fly. Its just that simple. Saying that, its FF. Itd fly anyway.
Billy is right, in my opinion. Dont change the classics, merely improve the quality (re-record (instruments, choir, better studio/technology...), not remix them). Add (some entirely) new ones, if necessary. Fans of Final Fantasy VII would most definately like the original (enhanced) music. Why is that particular (sub-)franchise so popular? Because of these fans. Crisis Core is not a game that needs to appeal to casual gamers (as well). Changing it to that effect is dangerous even. On a sidenote, yes, I am being rather protective and conservative here.
Basically in the Crisis Core boss battle theme, theyve taken some elements of a great tune and added a lot of mediocre elements (...). If youre going to do that, you might as well just come up with a completely new soundtrack
Remixing [tunes], dumbing them down and trying to shift them into different genres to appeal to the typical teenager is not [a great way of updating tunes].
Well put.
Iliked what I heard of Crisis core when I played it.
However, I HATE the arranged SF2 tracks. Components, or pieces of the melodies were lost in those piece of **** arrangements. They could have done something with a little more substance and depth than simply rearrange some shitty midis. I honest-to-god hate those arrangements.
It makes no difference. Arrangements, remix, whatever.
If Jamelia stole the melody to those tracks but added new lyrics/concept then its not a remix and its not an arrangement. It IS a new song, its simply sampling something old.
If that was the case then most hiphop music is simply a remix or arrangement.
I feel this discussion is a hate it or love it situation - but if you wanna throw around different terminology for the same damn concept then youre just nitpicking.
Triple Seven
21-03-08, 14:03
It makes no difference. Arrangements, remix, whatever.
If Jamelia stole the melody to those tracks but added new lyrics/concept then its not a remix and its not an arrangement. It IS a new song, its simply sampling something old.
If that was the case then most hiphop music is simply a remix or arrangement.
I feel this discussion is a hate it or love it situation - but if you wanna throw around different terminology for the same damn concept then youre just nitpicking.
Its not for the sake of terminology. More likely complications arise from the lack of (understanding of) the proper terminology. Obviously the terminology as such is irrelevant. But the result (of changing music) isnt. In this case the terminology is used in an attempt to describe results.
That being said, the Jamelia part was just an example. As a friend of hiphop music you are obviously sensitive to such destinctions. But taking a dig at hiphop was never intended, I am sure.
Tastes vary. However, I assume that you can understand where I am coming from/we are coming from seeing that you have similar problems with (the remake of) SF II.
billybandit
21-03-08, 15:09
I wasnt taking a dig at hiphop (Jamelia isnt even hiphop is she?) - what she did wasnt just sampled, she basically took the whole of Personal Jesus (including some of the lyrics) and then ruined what was a good song, I see that as the same as whats happened in Crisis Core (the boss battle theme anyway)
Yada yada yada
Ryu Kazama
21-03-08, 23:12
I cant comment on the Jamelia thing since I dont listen to that sort of music but its pretty common for people to do covers or totally redo a song with new lyrics using an old tune. But yeah, it does become like Marmite. You either love it or hate it.
Personally, I think most will end up liking the remixed tracks. The boss battle theme is jigged about a little and removes one bit. The normal battle theres another version in my opinion was quite well done. I dont mind either mixes but this one was done better. Easier to listen to.
Honestly though, I preferred VIIIs music so whatever. Just so long One Winged Angel doesnt get toyed with. Mind you, the only OWA version I havent liked that much is the piano version. Still like ACs best though.
Anyway, not too long for you guys to get your hands on it...depending on if youre importing the US version or not.
Currently up to Wutai.
But TBH I really dont like the English voices >_< And no, Id rather not have them in Japanese.
Ryu Kazama
25-03-08, 01:26
Just saw one (of the best) FMVs on Gametrailers from the English version. I have to say Genesis actually sounds decent. Kind of similar to Gackt but better battle cries. That was my biggest worry as far as voices go so Im glad hes not horribly voiced. However, Angeal on the other hand has been destroyed. I seriously doubt I will like his voice in the rest of the game. He simply does not sound strong or confident as he did in Japanese. He sounds like one of those wussy peacekeepers. As they say in Guilty Gear Destroyed!!.
Aerith I already know sucks. Shes always sucked in English with maybe the exception of the first KH game, which I dont actually remember too well...Mina Suvari ruined her in KHII and AC. Whoever did her voice now is about the same. Ugh.
Anyway, Ive heard more than enough of the game to judge the Japanese voices to be better. Sephiroth is better in Japanese, Genesis is about the same, Angeal and Aerith are SUPERIOR in Japanese, Zack is also much better in Japanese, same with Cloud and the Turks. Speaking of the Turks, Cissnei is actually another character whos voice I am worried about. I quite liked her Japanese voice. Sounded really nice.
Triple Seven
25-03-08, 02:38
I guess it also depends on how much you like a specific language. As for Aerith/Aeris (where did that difference come from?), I actually dont mind Suvaris voice in AC. However I dislike anything Gackt has contributed, starting with Dirge of Cerberus. Itll be interesting to see how the black wing, white wing story works out, considering DoCs ( secret ) ending.
Aeriths voice in this is pants.
Roths too.
But nothing worse than Resident Evil voices, I suppose.
The thing that gets to me is that they didnt try too hard to capture the look of FF7 locales. The church and slums, for instance, look very different. Even that bloody park.
Just saw one (of the best) FMVs on Gametrailers from the English version. I have to say Genesis actually sounds decent. Kind of similar to Gackt but better battle cries. That was my biggest worry as far as voices go so Im glad hes not horribly voiced. However, Angeal on the other hand has been destroyed. I seriously doubt I will like his voice in the rest of the game. He simply does not sound strong or confident as he did in Japanese. He sounds like one of those wussy peacekeepers. As they say in Guilty Gear Destroyed!!.
Aerith I already know sucks. Shes always sucked in English with maybe the exception of the first KH game, which I dont actually remember too well...Mina Suvari ruined her in KHII and AC. Whoever did her voice now is about the same. Ugh.
Anyway, Ive heard more than enough of the game to judge the Japanese voices to be better. Sephiroth is better in Japanese, Genesis is about the same, Angeal and Aerith are SUPERIOR in Japanese, Zack is also much better in Japanese, same with Cloud and the Turks. Speaking of the Turks, Cissnei is actually another character whos voice I am worried about. I quite liked her Japanese voice. Sounded really nice.
Im hoping most of these names are new to Crisis Core, as I havent heard of that many of them. I like to think that I know Final Fantasy 7s story quite well but this could be a wee bit of a worry if they are from past Final Fantasy 7 games.
Triple Seven
29-03-08, 10:40
With the NA version not arrived yet Ive started playing the Japanese one. Naturally I dont have much of an idea as to what is going on. However I made it past the first story mission and started doing side mission from thereon. There are a lot of these and Ive finished 6% now. Not all but a considerably large number were available after the first story mission and it is quite entertaining. Especially some of the ones labelleled as very hard are clearly more challenging than anything before. It remains to be seen how doing a large amount of these will affect the (difficulty of the) story mission.
Nabil Mishima
29-03-08, 18:31
Ive got the American version.
Ryu Kazama
29-03-08, 20:03
The look of some places will be different. Its not set in the same time. Besides that, some thing do get altered to reflect a more suitable look or style.
The story missions difficulty will depend how much youve levelled doing side missions.The inclusion of Hard mode is a good thing. The game in general is quite simple.
Well, its not like ten years, its only several weeks or months isnt it?
Triple Seven
30-03-08, 12:34
Anyway, Ive heard more than enough of the game to judge the Japanese voices to be better. Sephiroth is better in Japanese, Genesis is about the same, Angeal and Aerith are SUPERIOR in Japanese, Zack is also much better in Japanese, same with Cloud and the Turks. Speaking of the Turks, Cissnei is actually another character whos voice I am worried about. I quite liked her Japanese voice. Sounded really nice.
In my opinion Aeriths Japanese voice is among the worst. I prefer the various Englisch VA so far. Cissneis voice, as far as I am concerned, does stand out. Its rather good.
Klaatu barada nikto!
I thought it would be a good idea to ressurect this thread since this game is out today and I dont want to upset anyone by making another one.
So, anyone getting it? I sure am.
DisturbedbyDeth356
22-06-08, 23:01
i must say i hate new ff combat systems. why would anyone want a button-bash game? there is simply no skill in them, and so i still prefer old school turn-based rpgs, which is why i enjoyed lost odyssey. i would also argue that ff1 is better than crisis core.