Devil May Cry 4 - HUB Thread

[James Mitchell]

http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/dmc4-boxart.jpg
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General Info
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Published By: Capcom Eurosoft
Developed By: Capcom
Platforms: Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC
Engine: MT Framework (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT_Framework/)
Release Dates:
---North America: February 5th 2008
---Europe: February 8th 2008
---Australia: February 7th 2008
---Japan: January 31st 2008
Genre: Hack n Slash / Action
Multiplayer: None
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Demo
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- Confirmed (http://www.capcom-fc.com/devil4column/2008/01/post_25.html) to be released 24th January to Japanese PSN

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.xbox360fanboy.com/media/2008/01/dmc4demorumorz.jpg
- Worldwide release on the 31st January on XBOX Live and PSN
- Confirmed to be the TGS demo, with minor alterations
- Dante will not be playable in the demo
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Official Site
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Devil May Cry Portal
http://www.devilmaycry.com/home.html

Devil May Cry 4 - Japanese Official Site
http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4/index.html
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Coverage
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Capcom Europe
http://www.capcom-europe.com/games/Devil_May_Cry_4/117.aspx
GameSpot
http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/action/devilmaycry4/index.html
GameTrailers
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1671.html
IGN
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/748/748464.html
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Trailers
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Teaser: (SD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/12908.html) | HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/12907.html))
TGS 06: (SD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/14162.html) | HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/17944.html))
GDC 07: (SD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23904.html) | HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23903.html))
TGS 07: (SD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25131.html) | HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25289.html))
CGD 07: (SD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26664.html) | HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26663.html))
Final Trailer: (SD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29055.html) | HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29122.html))
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Features
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From the producer of the original Devil May Cry and Resident Evil 4 comes comes the next installment in the hugely successful stylized action series that has so far achieved global sales of nearly seven million units. Devil May Cry 4 immerses gamers in a gothic supernatural world, where a new protagonist clashes with a familiar hero. As the new leading man, Nero, players will unleash incredible attacks and non-stop combos using a unique new gameplay mechanic, his powerful Devil Bringer arm.

With the advanced graphical capabilities of the next-gen systems, high definition visuals and intricate detail come to life as players explore new and exotic locales. Dynamic action and undeniable style combine with explosive fighting options and a gripping story to produce the incomparable experience that only a Devil May Cry game can deliver.

Features:

* From the producer of the original Devil May Cry and Resident Evil 4
* High-definition visuals moving at 60 frames per second
* Blend of familiar and new: newcomer Nero clashes with veteran Dante
* New characters and environments
* Signature blend of guns and swordplay
* Deep combo system rewards stylish dispatching of enemies
* Unique Devil Bringer arm opens up a range of combo options
* Distinct set of weaponry and moves for Nero and Dante
* Exceed System allows Nero to charge up his sword with a throttle effect, revving up to three levels with powerful attack options
* New active style change system for Dante allows him to switch styles and weapons on the fly, producing crazy combo possibilities
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Installation (PS3 Version Exclusive)
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- 4.9Gb install, which takes 21 minutes.
- The installation process is mandatory
- Grants the player non-existant load times [not confirmed]
- During installation, you will be given the opportunity to peruse a 20 minute exposition.
- This exposition covers the story of Devil May Cry, and is a text & picture based rundown of the DMC mythos.
- Exposition is not available on the 360 in any form - not even bundled with the consoles sold in Japan
- Load times are never longer than 5 seconds for 360 - while they are negligible on PS3.
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[777]
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Collectors Edition
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Ultra US Collectors Edition
Capcom Unity - Thinking Of You...
- http://blog.capcom.com/archives/765
http://blog.capcom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/image137.jpg
For what I believe is truly a first in our industry, DMC4 producer Kobayashi-san (also producer of Resident Evil 4, nuff said) has personally signed 100 copies of the PS3 and Xbox 360 Collector s Edition tin by hand. We are now going to reintegrate these signed tins into the game manufacturing line and randomly distribute them across the US to a number of retailers and distributors. It might not be the keys to the candy factory, but it will be a rewarding, personal touch for a few lucky DMC fans.

US Collectors Edition
http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/rdonlyres/5FEE8992-0B36-4846-83DE-DEA6E35C0972/14081/dmc4_3d_ce_lineup_01.jpg
the contents of the Devil May Cry 4 Collectors Edition package, which includes volume 1 of ADV Films Devil May Cry: The Animated Series, a Steelbook case and a bonus DVD filled with extras. The $79.99 Devil May Cry 4 Collectors Edition will be available February 5, 2008, for both the PLAYSTATION3 computer entertainment system and the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft.
Devil May Cry 4 Collectors Edition contains the following extras:

* Volume 1 of ADV Films Devil May Cry: The Animated Series on DVD, including four complete episodes of the anime (a retail value of $29.99)
* Unique Steelbook metal case
* Bonus DVD: Making of Devil May Cry 4, Music from the soundtrack, Digital artbook, PC content (screen savers, wallpapers, icons)

PAL Collectors Edition
http://www.ebgames.com.au/productImages/promoImages/DMC4_LE/dmc4_360_le.jpg
Limited Edition Contains:

* Steel Case
* Art Book

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Gossip / Nemmys Own Speculation & Predictions
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- Vergil may be making a return
- Dante will be playable from the giant statue battle onwards
- Nero will gain an additional weapon, though thats all. The weapon is FAMILIAR to fans of the previous games. (Its already been seen, if that helps)
- Certain characters ARENT WHO THEY SEEM
- There are a total of 5 different forms of Pandoras Briefcase.
- There will be some back tracking
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I will update this thread with reviews as they come in. For now, just discuss the game...generally.
These hub threads are my attempts to get as much information on a game as it updates, before they launch, in order to generate interest to users who might NOT usually be interested. Either way, in the future, I will create a thread from the games launch, and update them as we learn more information.

Spoilers can be seen in the spoiler thread, which is also stickied.

[James Mitchell]

[As for large screenshots, check this topic (http://capcom-europe.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=34). This way users with a slower connection will be able to enjoy the HUB Thread as well; 777]

[No47]

Looks like im going to have to import a DMC 4 limited edition boxset for a chance to get one of the 100 signed copies of the game then, either that or wait till they show up on Ebay, lol.

[Haradaku]

I love the PAL steel case, so god dammed cool (<semi pun intended)

[Dead Phoenix]

no dante screenshots?

[James]

Looks like im going to have to import a DMC 4 limited edition boxset for a chance to get one of the 100 signed copies of the game then, either that or wait till they show up on Ebay, lol.

Id imagine theyd be extremely pricey once they go up on eBay. Especially considering theres only a 100 copies. Regardless of whether or not this game sells those 100 will be worth some to fanboys.

If that game sells extremely well then those 100 will be worth ALOT to some fanboys.

[Ryu Kazama]

Quick note: Please keep ALL spoilers in the spoiler thread! Even the slightest hints of My prediction was right.. Just keep it in that single thread. DMC4 is a massively anticipated title for many of us and we do not wish to have the story spoiled by inconsiderate people. So again, please keep any kind of spoilers, even the slightest hints in the spoiler thread!

Sank you.

[Triple Seven]

- 360 version loads faster than the PS3 due to a faster drive, though the Install for the PS3 eliminates load times.

Is that official?

Even if it is, the Install for the PS3 is mandatory, as youve pointed out. Therefore therell be no loading times for the PS3 version (which youve also pointed out). So what is the point in claiming/stating this when the 360 version has loading times (of up to 5 seconds) when the PS3 has none at all (according to you)?

[Ryu Kazama]

From the preview builds. PS3 version was an optional installation then, from what I know. But it is true there isnt much point to compare when one reads the disc whilst the other doesnt.

[No47]

Ive just watched GamerTV and they reviewed DMC 4 as being only a 6/10. They said apart from the story and the CGI sections of the game, not much has changed from the previous games, in terms of graphics, gameplay, etc. Surely this cant be abad thing though, as the previous games, apart of DMC 2 were brilliant.

[James Mitchell]

Ive just watched GamerTV and they reviewed DMC 4 as being only a 6/10. They said apart from the story and the CGI sections of the game, not much has changed from the previous games, in terms of graphics, gameplay, etc. Surely this cant be abad thing though, as the previous games, apart of DMC 2 were brilliant.
Ive seen the review in question. Although its not right to do this, I must note how terrible the guy is playing it. Oh well, Id mark it down too if I couldnt enjoy it. :d

- 360 version loads faster than the PS3 due to a faster drive, though the Install for the PS3 eliminates load times.

Is that official?

Even if it is, the Install for the PS3 is mandatory, as youve pointed out. Therefore therell be no loading times for the PS3 version (which youve also pointed out). So what is the point in claiming/stating this when the 360 version has loading times (of up to 5 seconds) when the PS3 has none at all (according to you)?
Ive heard these reports from several sources in Japan. Its a well known fact the 360s DVD drive is a faster speed than the PS3s BD-ROM drive, its the same situation as the PS2s DVD drive, which came out early and was one of the slowest.

I hear the Install wasnt mandatory at first, and thats where these original reports came from.

Dont worry Seven - Im not attacking your beloved PS3.

[James Mitchell]

- 360 version loads faster than the PS3 due to a faster drive, though the Install for the PS3 eliminates load times.

Is that official?

Even if it is, the Install for the PS3 is mandatory, as youve pointed out. Therefore therell be no loading times for the PS3 version (which youve also pointed out). So what is the point in claiming/stating this when the 360 version has loading times (of up to 5 seconds) when the PS3 has none at all (according to you)?
Ive heard these reports from several sources in Japan. Its a well known fact the 360s DVD drive is a faster speed than the PS3s BD-ROM drive, its the same situation as the PS2s DVD drive, which came out early and was one of the slowest.

I hear the Install wasnt mandatory at first, and thats where these original reports came from.

Dont worry Seven - Im not attacking your beloved PS3.

[No47]

Isnt this the reason why the orange boxset on the PS3 has longer loading times, because the Blu- ray drive has a slower read speed/takes longer to read the data?.

[James Mitchell]

Isnt this the reason why the orange boxset on the PS3 has longer loading times, because the Blu- ray drive has a slower read speed/takes longer to read the data?.
Precisely.b)

[Ryu Kazama]

Wait, wait. I could have sworn the PS3 version when it read from the disc loaded 1 or 2 seconds faster (even though read speed compared to 360 is slower, I know). Hmm, oh well doesnt matter anymore anyway.

[Triple Seven]

I hear the Install wasnt mandatory at first, and thats where these original reports came from.

Dont worry Seven - Im not attacking your beloved PS3.

At first being the key words. Listing that now, in its current form, is simply nonsense. And thats precisely what Im addressing. Its not about pushing a console, its about correct information. Yours is, at best, confusing and somewhat contradicting. All people need to know is that they have to go through an installation process thatll eliminate loading times whereas the 360 version does have loading times. If you want to give them a history lesson you should probably mark it as such, and put it more clearly.
That being said one could argue about your reasons for posting this (and not changing it to date). People might think it was because of slight fanboy tendencies. Which might have been supported by your counter, or actually first strike accusations. However, I think making random accusations is something for people with a problem and I dont feel a need to go down that road.

On a sidenote, Ryu may actually have a point. So theres a chance that your somewhat nonsensial information (see above) is incorrect on top of it.

[James Mitchell]

Play both demos. Neither require installs. The PS3 version takes longer to load.

With an install, the times are removed. Thats my information Im going off.

Seven, may I suggest trying both demos and then reporting on what youve noticed?

[Ryu Kazama]

This (http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8566301&publicUserId=4549175) should clear it up.

So its only a bit faster than 360 along with a fairly lengthy install.

[Triple Seven]

Play both demos. Neither require installs. The PS3 version takes longer to load.

Once more.

Its not about the demo. Its about information on the final game youve provided that doesnt apply (respective parts underlined, not otherwise altered) and is, at best, confusing:



Installation (PS3 Version Exclusive)
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- 4.9Gb install, which takes 21 minutes.
- The installation process is mandatory
- Grants the player non-existant load times- During installation, you will be given the opportunity to peruse a 20 minute exposition.
- This exposition covers the story of Devil May Cry, and is a text & picture based rundown of the DMC mythos.
- Exposition is not available on the 360 in any form - not even bundled with the consoles sold in Japan
- Load times are never longer than 5 seconds for 360 - while they are negligible on PS3.
- 360 version loads faster than the PS3 due to a faster drive, though the Install for the PS3 eliminates load times.
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I suggest you modify the quoted paragraph.

Ryus source provides differing information (as may others) - you could take that into consideration and potentially drop unconfirmed rumors or mark them as such.

[Limality]

Youre kidding me right?

What kind of BS Collectors Edition are you putting out for Europe? Steelcase and a B/W Artbooklet? Capcom couldve at least put in the Bonus DVD. This is just utter crap, Ill have to cancel my pre-order of the CE, get a refund, and get the standard edition.

This is really dissapointing. I mean, I do understand the higher price tag for europe due to localization but adding another 20.- CHF (Swiss Francs) for a Steel Case and a puny booklet? The US CE gets like a crapload more stuff for that money...Capcom is doing it wrong, honestly...

[Haradaku]

Paid 30 pounds for my Collectors edition on the 360, yes thats the steel case and I prefer the PAL case over the NTSC one any day.

So I aint so bummed about not getting a bonus DVD and the first few episodes of the crappy anime.

[Megaman]

first intended to be ps 3 exlusive???????!!!!!!!!!! build for the pc at first yeah! He says itself Kobayashi! where are the pc fanboys this time? :devil: :devil: :devil: :) :) :) :)

http://games.kikizo.com/features/dmc4_iv_p1.asp

What we actually did in the beginning was create it for PC, and then translate this to PS3 and Xbox 360 versions.

[Triple Seven]

Framework engine. Its not about exclusivity.

[KBU]

Any news on the PC specs??

[Megaman]

the hole game isnt even out eh; but if you want capcom europe official employees or chomp or ben: do me a favor and if you can contact Mister Kobayashi san that he beated the first devil may cry game (if you can contact him personally from a hole serious capcom fan and megaman fan) (he worked also on number one and resident evil 4 but everyone knows that) by miles and kilometers only by playing the demo. just tell him that it is a great onnor and favor for me! keep up the good working capcom japan usa korea and europe and every other capcom related company or R and D production studios!

[Megaman]

okay and here goes the first help needed! I am in mission 4 and with secret mission 3 and the question is UNVILEND RESISTANCE

eum duh not to ask a stupid question but how the heck do you do that? unvilend your style upranking? huh?

[Ryu Kazama]

Got my US Collectors Edition this morning. I have to say, the cover looks much, much better than the images seen before. Might even prefer it over the PAL cover after all (need to see that in the flesh before I decide). Too bad the manual clip broke on mine.

[Skeksis]

Too bad the manual clip broke on mine.

I hate it when a simple design error causes things like this to happen. My Halo 3 disks cracked in the middle because of the stupid design the special edition case has. :cry:

[Ryu Kazama]

That actually happened to my bonus disc for the FFXII Limited Edition. It wasnt major, thank God. The disc holder for these cases simply arent very good.

[Megaman]

http://www.9lives.be/gamenieuws/107138/devil-may-cry-4-verkoopt-uitstekend-ps3-x360

2 million units! it is already platinum after minus than a month! CAPCOM CAPCOM CAPCOM!!!!! :devil: :)

[Viper]

Just got it :D

But I got asked for ID in game!?!?

Really shouldnt have shaved this morning, but still I look over 16. (I am 16 btw) which is why I hate the people in game.

Went over to woolworths, and they had it cheaper.

Its the first dmc game Ive played, and so far its pretty enjoyable.

[djjimmy]

thats game for you, bunch of inbreds, lol. luckily im not a fan of shaving so i always look above 16. i should do anyway as im 22 but for some reason when im free of facefuzz i look pretty young.

[Viper]

I dont like shaving, but I get people moaning at me if I dont...

Still enjoying it :D

Strangely, this seems to have more of the resi factors then re4 had :s.

-music
-riddles

i fought the giant frog thing this morning, and it kept on spamming the eat me attack, as soon as it spat me out it just gobbled me up again before Id got up.

Had to start again. :(

I also didnt realise it didnt autosave :evil:

[Megaman]

eum guys check immediatly http://www.capcomeuro-press.com/ !!!!!!!

jezus christ 120 frames per second! superior enemies etc etc etc etc etc etc!!!!!!

[Megaman]

special question to tenebra and chompman and capcom staff developpers Japan Europe and America... .

do we ever get an update to DMC4 on the 360 and 3 to activate the console version of legendary dark knight and turbo modes?

but here is the thing... .

can the PS3 or 360 (wasnt theoretical 360 inferior to PS3 on hardware design and what it could handle?) handle LDK and Turbo Mode and 120 FPS?

LDK and Turbo 3 mode link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NJ-LbqCNE&feature=related)

[Megaman]

eum I hope someone give me an answer to this but... .

this is actually meant to everybody who has ever played DMC4 and especially the ones who could get all achievements in the 360 version.

maybe I am just that bad it could be but how is it technically an theoreticly possible to get an S ranking to all level in all gamemodes? also with bloody palace.

I played bloody palace with super dante and always in devil trigger because I cant understand how to achieve 99 levels without being beaten if you play witth normal dante or normal nero, I used only the streak attack from dante because I just cant defeat the enemy on another way or ways otherwise than this way, I just cant imagine myself how you could do that?

I can see it wrong but I think to achieve all the achievements which is my ultimate goal you must an hard core core core core core core core core core gamer :) to ever get this in your live.

so a question to the ones who have 1000p achievements in DMC 4 can you explain me in some way or another how did you actually did that?

also my saved game says to me that I have already played more than 102 hours!!!!!!! I am not lying fisycal game play time in DMC 4 since the first time I played it on february 8 2008 the lauchdate of the consoleversions which is more than 6 monts from the launchdate? my question is thus:

am I that BAD, is this normal or is the game just to difficult (to me maybe)? or maybe impossible from kobayashi to get all the achievements?

can somebody give me some hints or tell me maybe what I am doing wrong?

thanks for all help!

[II ARROWS]

special question to tenebra and chompman and capcom staff developpers Japan Europe and America... .

do we ever get an update to DMC4 on the 360 and 3 to activate the console version of legendary dark knight and turbo modes?

but here is the thing... .

can the PS3 or 360 (wasnt theoretical 360 inferior to PS3 on hardware design and what it could handle?) handle LDK and Turbo Mode and 120 FPS?

LDK and Turbo 3 mode link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NJ-LbqCNE&feature=related)AHAAHAAHAH Youre a dreamer!
A console cant manage all those enemies!
That video show a normal amount of enemy for that mode.
The real impressive amount of demons is on M7 and M8(I didnt finish the game yet in this mode), and frame rate is halved compared to DMD...
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tza7x-pKhs&fmt=18 2:40 to see M8... UNLEASH HELL!