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I know I'm not the only one who has thought of this..(surely i can't be) shoen jump vs Capcom i mean it seems like a no brainer i understand it would be really hard since different anime belong to different developers but I'm sure capcom can pull some strings for just this once i mean I'm sure allot of the artists who created the original manga can relate with capcom games so yeah i can see all the match ups (well most of them)
raine_ryuzaki1
28-07-09, 08:36
shonen jump anime is liscenced by starz media and its games are deleloped mainly by bandai. even if they did think up blue prints of this game, there is alot of liscencing to sort out.
have u play the shonen jump all stars beat 'em up? its available on ds, possibly only america.
you totally just stole my idea from the vs. capcom who would you like to see thread
sinsiter is on to you mr. sparkman :spy:
you totally just stole my idea from the vs. capcom who would you like to see thread
sinsiter is on to you mr. sparkman :spy:
lolololol im sure everyone has come up with this idea before and yes i own shoen jumps super stars and about the licensing thing i think that's no excuse i mean look at marvel vs capcom and how many different characters there are in it lets focus on spider man shall we? not only dose Marvel Comics (of course)
owns spider man but also activision same can be said with all the other characters
Whilst I like the idea it would be hard to execute properly...
As far as a character roster goes, it would have to be significantly cut down from Ultimate Superstars, pleasing every fan at that point would be very difficult, I also doubt that they'd incorporate the koma system either, so a lot of non-fighting characters would be cut.
The balance between the two franchises would also be very difficult to maintain, anime characters have the habit of being insanely powerful, Ryu VS Goku would be highly unbalanced considering all Ryu could throw would be a Hadoken whilst Goku's Kamehameha is capable of destroying the planet.
Licensing problems aside, it would be very difficult to get the balance right and please everyone.
Whilst I like the idea it would be hard to execute properly...
As far as a character roster goes, it would have to be significantly cut down from Ultimate Superstars, pleasing every fan at that point would be very difficult, I also doubt that they'd incorporate the koma system either, so a lot of non-fighting characters would be cut.
The balance between the two franchises would also be very difficult to maintain, anime characters have the habit of being insanely powerful, Ryu VS Goku would be highly unbalanced considering all Ryu could throw would be a Hadoken whilst Goku's Kamehameha is capable of destroying the planet.
Licensing problems aside, it would be very difficult to get the balance right and please everyone.
im not talking about having a roster of that scale maybe 2 chrachters per franchise posibly more and the whole kame hame ha destroying planets that wasnt a problem before when you can pit him against naruto a lil kid pretending to be a ninja lolx
The point I'm trying to make is that the balance would be either rather terrible or the Shonen Jump characters being held back considerably.
Even in the likes of Marvel Vs Capcom, the Marvel roster had characters with powers on par to that of the Capcom ones, whereas Shonen Jump has a tendancy to have insanely powerful characters, it comes from the Manga/anime format itself.
Ryu Kazama
28-07-09, 17:24
Same can be said for Tatsunoko characters but seeing as I don't know much on them, I'll stick to commenting on Marvel characters. Ie. Thanos, Dr Doom, Apocalypse. Those three alone overpower a lot of the Capcom cast yet they still made the game fun. People tend to forget about "true" balance if the game is fun, the characters do what they originally do and the game itself is fairly balanced (not in terms of true balance power wise but gameplay wise). MvC and TvS are such games that managed to do it pretty well.
Nabil Mishima
28-07-09, 18:43
Same can be said for Tatsunoko characters but seeing as I don't know much on them, I'll stick to commenting on Marvel characters. Ie. Thanos, Dr Doom, Apocalypse. Those three alone overpower a lot of the Capcom cast yet they still made the game fun. People tend to forget about "true" balance if the game is fun, the characters do what they originally do and the game itself is fairly balanced (not in terms of true balance power wise but gameplay wise). MvC and TvS are such games that managed to do it pretty well.
Ryu! Long time no see bud! BTW do you have BlazBlue?
Anyway I think it would be cool to see a Naruto vs Ryu fight.
Same can be said for Tatsunoko characters but seeing as I don't know much on them, I'll stick to commenting on Marvel characters. Ie. Thanos, Dr Doom, Apocalypse. Those three alone overpower a lot of the Capcom cast yet they still made the game fun. People tend to forget about "true" balance if the game is fun, the characters do what they originally do and the game itself is fairly balanced (not in terms of true balance power wise but gameplay wise). MvC and TvS are such games that managed to do it pretty well.
i totaly agree lol XD anyway i think it would work i mean you dont have to impliment anime logic in games otherwise whats the point of having DBZ games the game should end when goku dose a spirit bomb and i can totaly see a comedic rivalry with naruto and strider
Naruto: IM A NINJA BELIVE IT!
Strider: um.... no your not..
Naruto: yes i am look at my official hidden leaf head band
Strider: WACHING!!!!!! *slices Naruto's head band in 2*
Naruto: O_o HEY WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT GRRR D:<
Yeah, I do agree that the alterations made for fun and competitive purposes are much better than making them all "realistic" and making for believable confrontation, Although, arguably, Apocalypse, Thanos and Dr Doom where bosses during their respective games with a toned down version in MVC2, it would be no fun in that at all to have them flick a character away.
I suppose the only problem remaining would be the cast, I only really see the characters from the popular and fighting series making it in, meaning it would really only be One Piece, Bleach, Dragon Ball Z, Naruto Vs Capcom, since the non-fighting ones would probably have comic relief as Dan-esque characters, although I do suppose the vast number of other series would yield at least one skilled fighter, they probably wouldn't be the focus at all.
Naruto: IM A NINJA BELIVE IT!
Strider: um.... no your not..
Naruto: yes i am look at my official hidden leaf head band
Strider: WACHING!!!!!! *slices Naruto's head band in 2*
Naruto: O_o HEY WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT GRRR D:<
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the shonen jump all stars beat 'em up? its available on ds, possibly only america.
I thought it was Japan only...
And like Sinister said this has already been thought up in my 'Vs Capcom' topic.
If a Shonen Jump Vs Capcom did happen, then surely it'd be perfectly viable for a Namco Bandai Vs Capcom to happen, no?
Yeah, I do agree that the alterations made for fun and competitive purposes are much better than making them all "realistic" and making for believable confrontation, Although, arguably, Apocalypse, Thanos and Dr Doom where bosses during their respective games with a toned down version in MVC2, it would be no fun in that at all to have them flick a character away.
I suppose the only problem remaining would be the cast, I only really see the characters from the popular and fighting series making it in, meaning it would really only be One Piece, Bleach, Dragon Ball Z, Naruto Vs Capcom, since the non-fighting ones would probably have comic relief as Dan-esque characters, although I do suppose the vast number of other series would yield at least one skilled fighter, they probably wouldn't be the focus at all.
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yu yu hakusho
fist of the north star
kenshi
yu gi oh (sumon monsters)
d grayman
black cat
and loads more and in response to everyone saying they already mentioned this is a good thing since there is a market and demand for this so im sure capcom will make tons of this if they were to go ahed and do it
yu yu hakusho
fist of the north star
kenshi
yu gi oh (sumon monsters)
d grayman
black cat
and loads more and in response to everyone saying they already mentioned this is a good thing since there is a market and demand for this so im sure capcom will make tons of this if they were to go ahed and do it
Yeah, I am aware of the number of titles Shonen Jump has, but that presents its own problems, whilst Ultimate stars had a large cast, they where all within certain ground rules, controls as well as the DS format itself being capable to pull it off, but a full 3D game would need its own control system as well as correct organisation and execution as far as making the story goes.
The balance of the cast would need to be right, resulting in omissions from certain titles, especially the action/fighting manga, meaning certain, lesser titles would be excluded as to make way for the more popular mainstream titles.
The licensing issue would also be a nightmare, although I have seen several with the Viz media license, others, especially the older ones, are under different licenses, even if Capcom where to appease them all, the vast number of titles would warrant more cash to third parties, something that would unlikely be within the budget itself.
Popularity also adds to the problem, since Shonen Jump isn't going to make much money from those who have already bought the entire series of their manga and it's other interpretations, meaning the advertising would be pretty damn weak with it.
Regardless of wether or not this is a good idea, it's still peppered with problems.
Iceclimber
01-08-09, 12:46
As long as the cast is actually balanced unlike MVC2 (GOD I hate Cable) it could work.
Also they really shouldn't involve any of Viz Media's voice actors.
Ryu Kazama
03-08-09, 00:31
I really think it'd be easy to do the game. Use the TvC system, chuck in a bunch of Shounen characters and you're basically done (obviously balance needs to be done). Characters like Bleach and his Bankai state can effectively copy how Soki is. Level 3 Super (I think it was a Level 3, I forgot) and a running metre.
I do get your point on there being more focus on popular characters but, look back at the other Vs games and you'll see there were a lot that weren't actually that big (still popular to a small group). Viewtiful Joe, Soki, Tronne Bone, Son-Son, Amingo, Batsu, Kyosuke etc etc. Some of them are still fairly well known to some people (Batsu) but nowhere near Ryu or Spider-Man level. Heck, some of them beat out bigger characters like Thor who was only ever in the first MvC. They do have a fairly nice pick of characters (though yes, some are made to be a joke and suck in the game) so I wouldn't say its a massive worry in terms of what characters they'd pick.
Nabil: Nope, haven't got BlazBlue. Not getting it for some time. Its gotten lower on my list recently but maybe one day...
James Mitchell
03-08-09, 13:31
Never been a fan of the Shonen (sp?) characters. That being said, wouldn't it be hard to create such a thing due to licensing issues?
I mean, that's the reason Jump Superstars! for the DS didn't arrive anywhere outside of Japan, right?
I know Capcom's licensing team must be awesome (hence bringing TvC to Western territories) but maybe this task is just too much of a big one?
Iceclimber
03-08-09, 13:57
Never been a fan of the Shonen (sp?) characters. That being said, wouldn't it be hard to create such a thing due to licensing issues?
I mean, that's the reason Jump Superstars! for the DS didn't arrive anywhere outside of Japan, right?
I know Capcom's licensing team must be awesome (hence bringing TvC to Western territories) but maybe this task is just too much of a big one?
Nothing was every said. Superstars and Ultimate Stars worked because everything came from the manga artwork.
The biggest problem with that would be the huge translation job that would have to have been done on it.